Ketoconazole Shampoo 2% + Aloe Vera (with pictures)
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lucas.renoh
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So...
Use the plant itself.
Use the plant itself.
ripple-effect
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Here's a guy who had success w/ Aloe Vera Plant (no pics):
http://www.keratin.net/forums/viewtopic ... ght=#43539
Another branched out thread about this topic:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthrea ... =101511681
I'm thinking about trying it. Lucas can you explain how you apply it again. Do you just cut the leaf in half? How much do you apply? Do I have to buy a lot of aloe vera plants? Lol
According to this article there are more than 300 varieties of Aloe Vera Plant: http://www.healthguidance.org/entry/200 ... blems.html
Which one exactly did he have success with ?
http://www.keratin.net/forums/viewtopic ... ght=#43539
Another branched out thread about this topic:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthrea ... =101511681
I'm thinking about trying it. Lucas can you explain how you apply it again. Do you just cut the leaf in half? How much do you apply? Do I have to buy a lot of aloe vera plants? Lol
According to this article there are more than 300 varieties of Aloe Vera Plant: http://www.healthguidance.org/entry/200 ... blems.html
Which one exactly did he have success with ?
ripple-effect
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No one in this thread made that statement ...I think. But whatever that is....thats news to me. I don't believe that Min New York system works. Personal users claim that it's a luxurious shampoo that does nothing for hair loss.
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ripple-effect said:
the keratin.net post is for alopecia areata not male patternbaldness.
I think all the aloe vera plants have the same type of gel.
lucas.renoh
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Well, doesn't really matter the way you do, you just have to pass the gel on the scalp and have it wet. You can cut about 3 or 4cm of the leaf, split it up and pass on the scalp and save the rest of the leaf (wrapped with a journal paper) for another day in the refrigerator.ripple-effect said:
:nono:ripple-effect said:
Afaik, there's only ONE Aloe Vera, and we have a picture of it here. The others are Aloe Somethings.
He's having success with ALOE VERA, also named Aloe Vera Barbadensis Miller.
I got one from my grandmother and aunt, and I'm growing it indoor now.
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I just realized ...Dr Lee's spironolactone already has aloe vera gel in it.... :shock:
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Sorry I don't believe it for a second. I'd wager he used Rogaine and is lying about it- why would he do that you may ask? i don't know.
but i've never seen results like that before from just nizoral. i've never even seen any visible thickening from nizoral alone from anyone, let alone growth like that.
PS no way did he see improvement in only 10 days. next you're going to tell me that he got 8 minute abs too. there's a sucker born every minute.
but i've never seen results like that before from just nizoral. i've never even seen any visible thickening from nizoral alone from anyone, let alone growth like that.
PS no way did he see improvement in only 10 days. next you're going to tell me that he got 8 minute abs too. there's a sucker born every minute.
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For those that would like to know...
copy/paste from i-site
TAKING CARE OF YOUR ALOE VERA PLANT
Size of Plant--it is often said incorrectly that a plant has to be three
to four years old before it is potent enough to be used for healing.
Actually, even a very young plant has considerable potency. However, the
strength does increase with age and one should have at least one mature
plant around the home. For this reason we encourage people to purchase
as large an Aloe Vera as they have room for in the home. The plants
usually grow very slowly in the house.
Indoors and Outdoors -- Aloe Vera turns brown in harsh sunlight so it
should be kept in indirect light. It will freeze so it must be protected
when danger of heavy frost exists. Other than that, it grows faster
outside than inside, but most people grow Aloe Vera as an indoor,
ornamental plant.
Watering -- Aloe Vera is a succulent. This means that it is in greater
danger of overwatering than underwatering. It should be allowed to become
fairly dry before watering. During the winter months, watering should be
light, such as only a cup or two, since drying out will be slow. In
the summer, the pot can be really soaked. Be sure there is a drainage
hole in the pot since the roots will rot off when exposed to long periods
of wet soil.
Repotting--Aloe Vera can stand being root-bound, so repotting is not
necessary until the upper plant gets top-heavy. When a plant gets
root-bound, it will send out more new shoots or pups. If these are not
taken out for replanting when they are 3 to 4 inches high, they will suck
the life from the mother plarlt, which will get bright green and spread
its leaves horizontally rather than vertically. The plants will grow in
any kind of soil but good drainage is essential. The pups should be
repotted when large enough, watered well and not watered again for about
3 weeks, forcing new roots to seek water. The transplanted pup may turn
grey or brown for a while, which is normal. New pups make wonderful
presents.
Cutting Off Part of a Leaf - it does not harm the plant to harvest part
or all of a leaf since the wound is quickly sealed and healed. However,
since the leaf will not grow back, one should cut on the leaves closest
to the ground. These are also the oldest, therefore the most potent
medicinally.
SYMPTOMS OF POOR PLANT CARE
1. Leaves lie flat instead of upright: Usually caused by insufficient
light. Although Aloe Vera turns brown in harsh sunlight, it does need
a fair amount of light.
2. Leaves are thin and curled: Not being watered enough thus using up
its own liquid.
3. Leaves brown: Too much direct Sunshine.
4. Very slow growth: Probable causes might be too alkaline water or
soil, too damp too long, not enough lights too much fertilizer.
5. Disease or infestation: This is almost non-existent here in
the temperate zone (California).
USING AN ALOE VERA LEAF FOR EXTERNAL USE
What Leaf to Use? Always use the lowest leaves, the closest to the
ground first. There are several reasons. first, the bottom leaves are
older and larger, thus have more juice and greater potency. Also, since
the plant grows from the center and the cut leaves do not grow hack,
the plant will still retain its beauty and continued growth.
How To Cut A Leaf: After cutting off the portion of the leaf you
want with a sharp knife trim the thorny edges from the severed
portion, then slice the leaf across its width, like filleting a
fish. Tlle inner. exposed surfaces will reveal the transparentt gooey
gel which is ready to be applied directly to the afflicted area. Use
it generously. It will be absorbed by the skin within several minutes.
[N.B. from patt - this is not sticky - the skin soaks it up like a
sponge and your skin will fell soothed immediately!]
How long Will A Leaf Last? If the gel is being applied over a large area
like a sunburn, it may soon seem to be exhausted of gel by
running dry. Tllis is only a surface appearance because the
remaining gel is held captive in small elongated cells underneath
which are still intact. After the gel from tlle first layer of
ruptured cells has run dry, scratch the surface with a clean knife
to rupttlre more cells releasing morew juice. This will lbe continued
until there is nothing but green skin left. A partially used leaf can
be wrapped in foil or saran wrap and refrigerated, where it will last
for days."
[N.B. from patt - I "harvest" the leaves and keep them in the freezer;
just before my daughter or I take a bath or shower we take a leaf out
to use on dry skin surfaces after bathing It's great for skin dried
out by over heated buildings in winter or chafed from the cold
weather.]
copy/paste from i-site
TAKING CARE OF YOUR ALOE VERA PLANT
Size of Plant--it is often said incorrectly that a plant has to be three
to four years old before it is potent enough to be used for healing.
Actually, even a very young plant has considerable potency. However, the
strength does increase with age and one should have at least one mature
plant around the home. For this reason we encourage people to purchase
as large an Aloe Vera as they have room for in the home. The plants
usually grow very slowly in the house.
Indoors and Outdoors -- Aloe Vera turns brown in harsh sunlight so it
should be kept in indirect light. It will freeze so it must be protected
when danger of heavy frost exists. Other than that, it grows faster
outside than inside, but most people grow Aloe Vera as an indoor,
ornamental plant.
Watering -- Aloe Vera is a succulent. This means that it is in greater
danger of overwatering than underwatering. It should be allowed to become
fairly dry before watering. During the winter months, watering should be
light, such as only a cup or two, since drying out will be slow. In
the summer, the pot can be really soaked. Be sure there is a drainage
hole in the pot since the roots will rot off when exposed to long periods
of wet soil.
Repotting--Aloe Vera can stand being root-bound, so repotting is not
necessary until the upper plant gets top-heavy. When a plant gets
root-bound, it will send out more new shoots or pups. If these are not
taken out for replanting when they are 3 to 4 inches high, they will suck
the life from the mother plarlt, which will get bright green and spread
its leaves horizontally rather than vertically. The plants will grow in
any kind of soil but good drainage is essential. The pups should be
repotted when large enough, watered well and not watered again for about
3 weeks, forcing new roots to seek water. The transplanted pup may turn
grey or brown for a while, which is normal. New pups make wonderful
presents.
Cutting Off Part of a Leaf - it does not harm the plant to harvest part
or all of a leaf since the wound is quickly sealed and healed. However,
since the leaf will not grow back, one should cut on the leaves closest
to the ground. These are also the oldest, therefore the most potent
medicinally.
SYMPTOMS OF POOR PLANT CARE
1. Leaves lie flat instead of upright: Usually caused by insufficient
light. Although Aloe Vera turns brown in harsh sunlight, it does need
a fair amount of light.
2. Leaves are thin and curled: Not being watered enough thus using up
its own liquid.
3. Leaves brown: Too much direct Sunshine.
4. Very slow growth: Probable causes might be too alkaline water or
soil, too damp too long, not enough lights too much fertilizer.
5. Disease or infestation: This is almost non-existent here in
the temperate zone (California).
USING AN ALOE VERA LEAF FOR EXTERNAL USE
What Leaf to Use? Always use the lowest leaves, the closest to the
ground first. There are several reasons. first, the bottom leaves are
older and larger, thus have more juice and greater potency. Also, since
the plant grows from the center and the cut leaves do not grow hack,
the plant will still retain its beauty and continued growth.
How To Cut A Leaf: After cutting off the portion of the leaf you
want with a sharp knife trim the thorny edges from the severed
portion, then slice the leaf across its width, like filleting a
fish. Tlle inner. exposed surfaces will reveal the transparentt gooey
gel which is ready to be applied directly to the afflicted area. Use
it generously. It will be absorbed by the skin within several minutes.
[N.B. from patt - this is not sticky - the skin soaks it up like a
sponge and your skin will fell soothed immediately!]
How long Will A Leaf Last? If the gel is being applied over a large area
like a sunburn, it may soon seem to be exhausted of gel by
running dry. Tllis is only a surface appearance because the
remaining gel is held captive in small elongated cells underneath
which are still intact. After the gel from tlle first layer of
ruptured cells has run dry, scratch the surface with a clean knife
to rupttlre more cells releasing morew juice. This will lbe continued
until there is nothing but green skin left. A partially used leaf can
be wrapped in foil or saran wrap and refrigerated, where it will last
for days."
[N.B. from patt - I "harvest" the leaves and keep them in the freezer;
just before my daughter or I take a bath or shower we take a leaf out
to use on dry skin surfaces after bathing It's great for skin dried
out by over heated buildings in winter or chafed from the cold
weather.]
lucas.renoh
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Well, it's your opinion, that's ok.JayMan said:
But...
I'm pretty sure you are looking forward to try it. :hairy:
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lucas.renoh said:
no i don't need to try it.
JayMan said:
Have you seen the regrowth pics from topical ketoconazole? Look here and scroll down:
http://www.hairlosshelp.com/forums/mess ... adid=68440
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I don't know.IBM said:
The easiest is to find a baby plant, remove it WITH earth of the root, and replant (do a transplant of the plant). So the plant won't feel it and will grow up normally.
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thats the lotion not the shampoo.jh said:
lotion absorbs better t hen shampoo.
TonyTheTiger said:
Right. But it is still 2% keto and one of the guys only applied it while showering.
And even with the shorter contact period with the skin when shampooing, there is still some absorption - people get regrowth from Dr. Proctor's shampoo.
I don't know why members are calling this guy a liar when he claimed to have used a proven treatment (one of a handful) and claims noticeable results - it's not that great a stretch.