It Begins. I purchased all the items for the SwissTemple Prostaglandin Protocol. Wish

[westonci]

does anybody actually know where to get seti (besides the exclusive 'private forum'). Apparently Kane sells a salted version of seti, not the identical molecule.

make sure you dont buy from kane! he sells some chemically altered "salted" seti. Slightly different molecule.

If your gonna get it, than get it from either Zhe Chem or Xi'an Lyphar I tested both and they were legit. Zhe is cheaper so Im currently using theirs. I get it for $5.5/g

I think the contact guys email for zhe was zhechem.lewis@hotmail.com

And as @kawnshawn said

Hmm, I contacted 3 different suppliers for seti the past month and all claimed they were out of seti and wouldn't be available until this week. Kinda confirms my suspicion that they all buy from a single manufacture and sell at a mark up.

I think the labs that are selling legit seti are all getting their seti from some unknown manufacturer.

 

[Oro]

Any update? Pics?

 

[nypdz]

Any update? Pics?

Yes @westonci - eager to see 21 week update

 

[icecold7]

So, roughly 340€/month. Quite fuckin expensive.
When Fevi (which is way better than Seti) and Daro will be out in 2019, price will decrease dramatically.
Just one year to wait.

I was off of the forums over the holidays, but I just received my seti from Xi'an Lyphar (ordered several weeks ago) and started taking it Thursday. I'm up to 1.75g/day and will take 2g/day tomorrow and going forward. I hope this works. I was taking 1g/day of Kane's stuff for the month prior. I noticed a strong increase in shedding which hasn't yet abated (but I also started minoxidil two weeks later, so it's hard to parse out).

I agree that it's expensive, but I don't have 18 months to wait for fevi to come out. My hair will look like crap if not stabilized asap. The good news is that since fevi is on the horizon, the total cost of a seti regimen even at high doses is a 4 figure endeavor until the fevi. Much less than a car, for instance, and to save my hair, that's totally worth it. I just hope it works.

 

[icecold7]

OP also hasn't ever tried finasteride. This thread has unfortunately diverted into focusing solely on pgd2 inhibition, which was only a portion of the PG Protocol to begin with. Posts about MAINTAINING on Seti are certainly great to see, but the protocol was always about REGROWTH which still included using an anti-androgen such as finasteride or dutasteride.

I'm obviously very bullish on seti, and I'm betting my hair on it, but I think this is a good point. @westonci, I applaud you for being the canary in a coal mine here, and your experience has provided great data points on sides, etc. However, Seti isn't supposed to cause regrowth, just maintenance. But it seems like most of the enthusiasm around your photos/progress is from the regrowth. You mentioned your hair is thickening and are attributing it to the seti. Could that be caused by the other parts of your regimen like the PGE2 and Dermastamping?

 

[ZenHead]

Keep us updated on your progress.

I had shedding for about 1-2 months, then it stabilized with seti.

I know you said you didn't have any regrowth, but do you feel as if it thickened any existing miniaturized hairs?

 

[mowingdown]

I can't really tell. Too early to really say I think.

Are you using Kane Seti?

 

[westonci]

Hey guys just a mini update. Im dropping PGE2.

For three reasons.

1. I feel like its not doing that much. After messing around with seti, im posiitve that 2g/day seti is doing 95% + of the work.

2. I want to see if their is negative effects of dropping pge2 on my hair. (I doubt it, based on what im observing)

3. If I used the money i was spending on pge2 on buying more seti, I'd probably get better results.

 

[Oro]

Tnx

Hey guys just a mini update. Im dropping PGE2.

For three reasons.

1. I feel like its not doing that much. After messing around with seti, im posiitve that 2g/day seti is doing 95% + of the work.

2. I want to see if their is negative effects of dropping pge2 on my hair. (I doubt it, based on what im observing)

3. If I used the money i was spending on pge2 on buying more seti, I'd probably get better results.

Thank you so much bro for this update.
Keep update us bro

 

[ZenHead]

My seti came in yesterday, will be starting off at 500mg twice daily, and then eventually move up to 1000mg twice daily in the near future. I'll periodically update you guys with my progress, might even include some pictures if I get regrowth. Really just expecting maintenance though. Also, it's good to see multiple members trying this stuff out. It's like we're running our own mini trail haha.

 

[Bitless]

My seti came in yesterday, will be starting off at 500mg twice daily, and then eventually move up to 1000mg twice daily in the near future. I'll periodically update you guys with my progress, might even include some pictures if I get regrowth. Really just expecting maintenance though. Also, it's good to see multiple members trying this stuff out. It's like we're running our own mini trail haha.

Where did you get your seti from? Xi’an lyphar’s lab?

 

[Bitless]

For everyone trying it, go for atleast 6 months before making a conclusion.

And split the dose morning and evening.

Hey guys just a mini update. Im dropping PGE2.

For three reasons.

1. I feel like its not doing that much. After messing around with seti, im posiitve that 2g/day seti is doing 95% + of the work.

2. I want to see if their is negative effects of dropping pge2 on my hair. (I doubt it, based on what im observing)

3. If I used the money i was spending on pge2 on buying more seti, I'd probably get better results.

Did you guys have shedding when taking seti?

 

[kawnshawn]

Gonna be starting high dose seti in a week too. Gonna also do oral spironolactone since ridiculous high dose enza isn't working or giving me sides. Also doing minoxidil.

 

[Bitless]

Gonna be starting high dose seti in a week too. Gonna also do oral spironolactone since ridiculous high dose enza isn't working or giving me sides. Also doing minoxidil.

I feel like we should make a group pm for the people who take seti. So we can do group buy and such

 

[Jonnyyy]

I feel like we should make a group pm for the people who take seti. So we can do group buy and such

I'd be in

 

[ZenHead]

Found a supplier on Alibaba selling fevi for the lowest price I've seen. This could be cheaper than seti?
https://www.alibaba.com/product-det...tml?spm=a2700.7724838.2017115.1.bd8a1bdJgAmB7

 

[Folliman]

My seti came in yesterday, will be starting off at 500mg twice daily, and then eventually move up to 1000mg twice daily in the near future. I'll periodically update you guys with my progress, might even include some pictures if I get regrowth. Really just expecting maintenance though. Also, it's good to see multiple members trying this stuff out. It's like we're running our own mini trail haha.

Are you doing the rest of the PG treatment or only seti?

 

[Jonnyyy]

Wow that's really cheap.

Someone should order it and get it tested with Janoshik.

Remember, we don't need a lot of fevi...not sure how much mg/day is enough though...

Anyone know?

It's almost as cheap as seti, if this gets tested and it's legit I'm definitely trying it.

 

[ZenHead]

If I recall correctly, you'd need 150mg a day. Of course we'd have to find out the optimal dosing ourselves for male pattern baldness like westonci did with seti (even if he had help from looking at kythera's clinical trial dose). And @Jonnyyy this is waaaay cheaper than seti. at $10 a gram, only needing to take 150mg a day would be about $1.50 a day. Idk if these prices are true or not but it almost seems to good to be true.. anyway if I didn't just receive 150 grams of setipiprant I would try this and test it. But i'll leave that up to someone else for now

 

[ZenHead]

Are you doing the rest of the PG treatment or only seti?

Here's my regimen:
Seti 500mg twice daily (will increase to 1000 twice daily in the next few weeks)
Zix in the morning (Not sure about this but I read a study on zinc increasing pge2, other users claim success, cheap, makes hair look great)
Dermarolling once weekly (small abrasions no bleeding)
Dermastamping / wounding once weekly with LiCl (for WNT activation. wounding = just a little bit of blood, redness)
minoxidil (lipogaine) at night
.5 ml oral castor oil daily for pge2
ginger root capsules (pge2) and fish oil (for omega-6) whenever I feel like it

I know its a weird regimen but it just makes sense to me. Every little bit helps I guess. Some of this stuff might not be doing sh*t for my hair but everything besides seti is super cheap