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Intradermal Injections Of A Hair Growth Factor Formulation For Enhancement Of Human Hair Regrowth

Discussion in 'Hair Loss and Alopecia Published Studies' started by whatevr, Mar 4, 2018.

  1. Georgie

    Georgie Senior Member My Regimen

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    Just the shit they sell genetically I guess.
     
  2. HairCook

    HairCook Established Member My Regimen

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    The coated one that is gastric juice resistant.
     
  3. whatevr

    whatevr Senior Member My Regimen

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    I'd say everyone on this forum got sold shit geneTically :p
     
    RU serious and bridgeburn like this.
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    Georgie Senior Member My Regimen

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    Autofuckery strikes again. Generically*
     
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    dermrafok Established Member My Regimen

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    In which clinic (Europe/USA) is this treatment available?
     
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    bridgeburn Senior Member My Regimen

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    I took it orally before, I even sunburned my scalp while on it :p
     
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    Georgie Senior Member My Regimen

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    Haha.
    I’m assuming that it did jack all for your hair.
     
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    bridgeburn Senior Member My Regimen

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    right, it didn't seem to help, haha. I wasn't taking any antiandrogens with it either though. I was also taking evening primrose oil since omega 6's according to Swiss turn into Pge2 and according to studies on pubmed PUFA's inhibit 5ar. here's a pic one day of my former pathic reddened 5 head. :D
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  9. HairCook

    HairCook Established Member My Regimen

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    There were even random cases were ppl had full regrowth on sulfa/benox and got a sunburn. And real sunburn is actually even bad for hair, cause UVA penetrates too deep.

    So you were shitting on your results by not taking an anti-androgen and now are you play with transgender stuff?

    No, EP Oil doesnt turn according to swiss into PGE2, he thinks personally that brotzu wont work either, cause just adding precursors wont magically turn them into whatever you want them to. I saw a study where DGLA feeding to mice would increase PGE1/2 though recently, so we gotta see if it works in humans as well. Also you would use borage oil then, which has the highest concentration of GLA.
     
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    stachu Experienced Member My Regimen

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    whatevr, a bit offtopic but... are you doing good with RU comparing to finasteride since you put finasteride off ? Can i add ru to my regimen to hold gains?
     
  11. bridgeburn

    bridgeburn Senior Member My Regimen

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    yes, i read about cases of accidently discovering the synergistic affect of sunburn and sulfa so i tried it. I was going to buy a UVB lamp but didnt have much money at the time.
    Im not shitting on the results. but if i started antiandrogens and sulfa at the same time then I would wonder if the results are just from antiandrogens.
    Gla does down the line
    Screenshot_20180307-192048.jpg

    plus the Omega 3 chain also uses Cox, so my way of thinking was that why not tip the omega 3/ omega 6 ratio more to the omega 6 side and use sulfa to tip the pge2/ pgd2 ratio more to the pge2 side at the same time.
    also read anobolicmen.com and saturated fat is reccomended to enhance androgen production, so i was also thinking to increase sat fat to PUFA ratio more towards Pufa side.

    I actually was considering this, and I read somewhere some scientific reason why EPO would actually better , I dont remember the reason though, it was a long time ago.
    also I found a srudy which showed positive results from topical EPO, I also used it topically sometimes too
     
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    This is an excellent study.

    The problem is I don't know what caused their hair loss (probably androgens though, if it had one thousand people in it, and
    a lot of males).

    And this raises an even more important question,


    HISTOGEN, WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU TAKING SO GOD DAMN LONG!
     
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    dermrafok Established Member My Regimen

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    One of the authors is: Kapoor, R (Roger Kapoor) has numerous publications in the field of alopecia. If someone wanted to contact him. Or live near in the United States (Illinois).

    https://health.usnews.com/doctors/roger-kapoor-654556

    He also participated in the study:

    Evaluation of safety and efficacy of topical prostaglandin E2 in treatment of vitiligo

    http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1365-2133.2008.08923.x/abstract

    All of you will have a decent treatment. Patience. New treatment is very close.
     
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    Rolandconil Established Member My Regimen

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  15. HairCook

    HairCook Established Member My Regimen

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    Omega3 is trash, would never put it on my head. There are studies about EPA/DHA it lowering cox activity/modulating it towards PGE3, which is useless and lowering pge2 expression.

    Yeah, you clearly wasted your time, cause your follicles were still being under attack. Sulfa lowering somewhat pgd2(by cox2 inhibition), AAs lower somewhat the pgd2 cascade (due to androgen receptor sensitivity). One somewhat it is not enough, this was a workaround protocoll. Take out one piece, and it collapses like a card house. Plus he clearly stated the was mainly using it for increased PGE2 (through pgdh inhibition).

    Also your sunburn look weak. My sunburns are far deeper without your increased photosensibility from sulfa. If you did proper sunburns, you should have also most likely noticed something else, but you obv didnt.

    It is actually really frustrating. I read easily a thousand of posts regarding the pg protocoll, and ppl literally were just to stupid to follow it and complain after, aside from buying soja flour from kane. Then ppl even start making hideous claims.

    I dont really even know how to comment on this concentration of stupidity

    I wonder really how many more cures passed on the hair loss community due to this behavior.

    Greets from swiss:

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    HairCook Established Member My Regimen

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    No, minoxidil enhances endogenous growthfactors while injecting exogenous growthfactors is another league.

    Hence I am also saying ppl should get FGF9 growthfactor cocktail like sgf57 or cellcurin as it has been proven that the human skin is lacking cells to express it, while you can get other growthfactors from minoxidil, pge2, wnt... as downstream metabolite or directly from wounding. See this for simple explaination:
     
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    whatevr Senior Member My Regimen

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    I messed around with RU throughout the months and concluded that the amount of brain fog compared to the pathetic hair results is not worth it.
     
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    stachu Experienced Member My Regimen

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    Great to know, that RU is shit :)
     
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    whatevr Senior Member My Regimen

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    Some people have success with it though. You can't know unless you try.
     
  20. bridgeburn

    bridgeburn Senior Member My Regimen

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    are you talking to me? I did not use Omega 3
     

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