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Intradermal Injections Of A Hair Growth Factor Formulation For Enhancement Of Human Hair Regrowth

Discussion in 'Hair Loss and Alopecia Published Studies' started by whatevr, Mar 4, 2018.

  1. whatevr

    whatevr Senior Member My Regimen

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    [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29482481]

    The full study shows some interesting results photos. Basically they use a cocktail of VEGF, FGF, IGF, copper tripeptide-1 (GHK-Cu or AHK-Cu), Keratinocyte growth factor and Thymosin beta-4. 60-70 injections were given per session and after eight sessions they note significant results. I think this is probably the most striking photo:

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    1000 patients? that's a damn lot.
     
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    furrydome Established Member My Regimen

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    Yeah this one seems like kind of a big deal. Huge trial with good results from relatively well known (I think?) chemicals.

    Given that most of this stuff is already in the body, I wonder if it can be commercialized quickly.
     
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    kiwipilu Experienced Member My Regimen

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    sick result; that shows dht is not the thing we necesseraly have to focus on.
    but this case shows diffuse thinning too. I doubt this would be miracle for receiding (like almost any drug)
    anyway here is a link with further details
    https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2013190567A2/en
    @whatevr do you have a link to see more pictures?ty
     
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    whatevr Senior Member My Regimen

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    You can look it up via Sci-Hub by searching for the PMID of the study.
     
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    HairCook Established Member My Regimen

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    I could cry.

    There is already cellcurin with FGF9, the growthfactor humans cant express well cause we lack those cells. Mices however have tons of it hence they got such beast growth. Idk why no one with money hasnt been doing it yet, it has been know for years that wounding + fgf9 is greatly beneficial. Add licl and pge2 backed up with seti/fevi and boom, super good chances to regrow even slick bald areas.

    Cellcurin btw should be injected, it is used in korean beauty clinics after microneedling. These clinics are not allowed to inject it, it loses you easily 70% o the growthfactor, so the injection part is relevant.
     
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    whatevr Senior Member My Regimen

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    Anti-androgens will eventually be viewed as a very primitive and barbaric way to treat hair loss. There are far cleaner and more effective ways to treat male pattern baldness, and we are only just now uncovering the tip of that iceberg.
     
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    Correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t this very similar to what follica is doing? I know that they also are using a cocktail of growth factors after wounding. I’m pretty sure these results will be similar if not identical to follica’s
     
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    HairCook Established Member My Regimen

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    Check out Cellcurin, thats pretty much it. Injecting it is just vastly superior to dropping it on your wounds.

    Wounding + LiCl, wait a bit. Then Inject cocktail, then apply pge2. If you got some magical access to research meds, add a topical pgdh inhibitor to it and boom hair. Oh yeah sulfa works by inhibiting it as well. Sulfa inhibits 15-pgdh and doubles pge2 even though it inhibits cox-2 (hence the decrease in pgd2). I saw someone today on private forums coming back from norwood 6 by combining sulfa and 2x seti at 5% a day. 15-pgdh inhibitors are the future. Check out the sunburn + sulfa cure cases, massive pge2 from sunbun combined with the fact that sulfa wont let the pge2 go + pgd2 decrease. Boom hair.
     
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    Wow, good find OP.
     
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    Georgie Senior Member My Regimen

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    Do you know how to concoct a sulfa topical? I am rather interested indeed. Or I suppose I could just take it orally.
     
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    Georgie Senior Member My Regimen

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    Give me it.
    Will sell soul.
    Perhaps brief boob grab.
    1 boob = 4 injections.
     
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    whatevr Senior Member My Regimen

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    Let's see, 60-70 injections x 8 sessions... Sounds like a lot of boob-grabbing action. Are you sure you can handle all that?
    Unfortunately, I don't have access to this lotion, so no hair, and no titties either. Damn it ! :rolleyes:
     
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    Georgie Senior Member My Regimen

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    I need to up my prices.

    Cellcurin isn’t similar?
     
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    whatevr Senior Member My Regimen

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    According to @HairCook it is, but I haven't looked into it personally so I dunno.
     
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    Georgie Senior Member My Regimen

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    HairCook Established Member My Regimen

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    Well, if you do sulfa topically you gonna look like your profile pic... yellow.

    Mesalamine is the active of sulfa. It seems to be generally a bit weaker, and solubility sucks. You could try it I guess, I gave up on it.
     
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    Both are growthfactor cocktails with their own benefits. I advocate fgf9 cause Cots is behind it and we know how good mices regrow.
     
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    Georgie Senior Member My Regimen

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    Fair call. I’d take it orally but I don’t want to sear my insides.
     
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    What kind of sulfa should we take oraly?
     

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