Information On Rch-01, Tsuji, Follica And Brotzu

[baldingAF]

@Insider I want to thank you for coming forth, it seems to at least some degree you know how much this sucks for people in todays culture to be bald, particularly in their young age like myself.

So far you seem confident in all that you've said which is reassuring but I wanted to ask you before I had such confidence moving forward.

Earlier you stated that rch-01 works best for diffuse patterns like myself. I started balding around 19 and still have a hairline intact but it is all miniaturized and spread out, so you have indicated best cosmetic results are for people in the realm of my balding.

I am by no means poor but I do have to be precise with my spending. I have worked and spent a lot on hair loss and will be happy to do so for results. Anywhere I can save a few hundred dollars I absolutely should.

So here is my direct question that I am hoping you can answer confidently:
If I book my trip now to Japan for late February, as per your passing of information when RCH-01 will be available which will still cost me a lot of money, can you assure me that I will be able to receive treatment during my trip?

Again thank you for coming up here and I hope you aren't just some dude who's about to lead me to blow hundreds of dollars that I really will have to work hard to earn....

 

[Btg]

@Insider I want to thank you for coming forth, it seems to at least some degree you know how much this sucks for people in todays culture to be bald, particularly in their young age like myself.

So far you seem confident in all that you've said which is reassuring but I wanted to ask you before I had such confidence moving forward.

Earlier you stated that rch-01 works best for diffuse patterns like myself. I started balding around 19 and still have a hairline intact but it is all miniaturized and spread out, so you have indicated best cosmetic results are for people in the realm of my balding.

I am by no means poor but I do have to be precise with my spending. I have worked and spent a lot on hair loss and will be happy to do so for results. Anywhere I can save a few hundred dollars I absolutely should.

So here is my direct question that I am hoping you can answer confidently:
If I book my trip now to Japan for late February, as per your passing of information when RCH-01 will be available which will still cost me a lot of money, can you assure me that I will be able to receive treatment during my trip?

Again thank you for coming up here and I hope you aren't just some dude who's about to lead me to blow hundreds of dollars that I really will have to work hard to earn....

dont schedule your life around forum info which is not confirmed

 

[random phone charger]

@Insider I want to thank you for coming forth, it seems to at least some degree you know how much this sucks for people in todays culture to be bald, particularly in their young age like myself.

So far you seem confident in all that you've said which is reassuring but I wanted to ask you before I had such confidence moving forward.

Earlier you stated that rch-01 works best for diffuse patterns like myself. I started balding around 19 and still have a hairline intact but it is all miniaturized and spread out, so you have indicated best cosmetic results are for people in the realm of my balding.

I am by no means poor but I do have to be precise with my spending. I have worked and spent a lot on hair loss and will be happy to do so for results. Anywhere I can save a few hundred dollars I absolutely should.

So here is my direct question that I am hoping you can answer confidently:
If I book my trip now to Japan for late February, as per your passing of information when RCH-01 will be available which will still cost me a lot of money, can you assure me that I will be able to receive treatment during my trip?

Again thank you for coming up here and I hope you aren't just some dude who's about to lead me to blow hundreds of dollars that I really will have to work hard to earn....

Time to revise my entire concept of stupidity.

 

[baldingAF]

dont schedule your life around forum info which is not confirmed

Oh look everyone, its captain f*** *** wielding his great sword made of pure common sense to sprinkle us all with little hints of how he thinks you do things.

f*** off I'll do what I want, f*****.

 

[Roberto_72]

@Insider I want to thank you for coming forth, it seems to at least some degree you know how much this sucks for people in todays culture to be bald, particularly in their young age like myself.

So far you seem confident in all that you've said which is reassuring but I wanted to ask you before I had such confidence moving forward.

Earlier you stated that rch-01 works best for diffuse patterns like myself. I started balding around 19 and still have a hairline intact but it is all miniaturized and spread out, so you have indicated best cosmetic results are for people in the realm of my balding.

I am by no means poor but I do have to be precise with my spending. I have worked and spent a lot on hair loss and will be happy to do so for results. Anywhere I can save a few hundred dollars I absolutely should.

So here is my direct question that I am hoping you can answer confidently:
If I book my trip now to Japan for late February, as per your passing of information when RCH-01 will be available which will still cost me a lot of money, can you assure me that I will be able to receive treatment during my trip?

Again thank you for coming up here and I hope you aren't just some dude who's about to lead me to blow hundreds of dollars that I really will have to work hard to earn....

You should waiting for officially confirmed news. You should not trust the words of a new member who cannot promise you anything.

 

[Feelsbadman.jpg]

If I book my trip now to Japan for late February, as per your passing of information when RCH-01 will be available which will still cost me a lot of money, can you assure me that I will be able to receive treatment during my trip?

You are asking him for a guarantee? Nothing is a guarantee. Furthermore he does not work for Shiseido nor is he in charge of when they release this procedure. Do you honestly expect him to say, "Yes absolutely 100%". I would be less likely to believe a word he says if did.

 

[Kagaho]

Hell, not even shiseido can assure an accurate date for commercialisation right now (they already answer this to a user who contacted them some time ago.

Wait till october

 

[Feelsbadman.jpg]

I was referring more to achieving the maximum degree of resistance you can given your genetics.

Right which would not be immune....

Androgens are detrimental to all human scalp hair follicles. In vitro experiments have shown donor hairs miniaturize too it just takes a higher exposure/concentration.

RCH-01 will give you the genetic resistance your donor region has to androgens to the entire scalp.

So for all intensive purposes in your daily life, you might consider yourself immune. Do you ever worry about your donor hair thinning? I don't. Doesn't mean it can't thin out due to Androgenetic Alopecia eventually.

 

[Feelsbadman.jpg]

he other two questions I cant answer. I just know that they divided the participants in different groups which had different frequencies. The least number of injections was three.

So for westernes to get this procedure done and achieve the maximum benefit, we are looking at multiple trips to Japan over the span of years seeing as how the FDA will drag complete *** on allowing it here. I doubt it will be available in the US until like 2022.

This makes the cost higher than previously estimated. If we do it a minimum of 3 times, that's about $3k for the injections plus flights. Depending on where you are coming from, this could easily run over $10k+ for everything

 

[Kagaho]

Right which would not be immune....

Androgens are detrimental to all human scalp hair follicles. In vitro experiments have shown donor hairs miniaturize too it just takes a higher exposure/concentration.

RCH-01 will give you the genetic resistance your donor region has to androgens to the entire scalp.

Yes, i read again your post and agree 100%.

 

[Feelsbadman.jpg]

I think it was Hoffman who said he expected to reach "implanted cell dominance" after a set of injections spaced during months or years

This is good. The cells that are being used are dermal sheath cup cells which if I understand correctly, get depleted in non donor regions due to "weak androgen resistance". RCH-01 replaces these same cells multiplied from the donor region.

What if some one takes finasteride and still has all their hair and the weak DSC cells. Will the implanted DHT resistant DSC cells have to compete with the existing ones since they are still there?Do you think such people still achieve "implanted cell dominance"?

 

[Taep]

It was Lee Buckler who said data would come out in October. Do you trust her?

 

[wc5269]

So, just to be clear, you have access to proprietary, material information (as in, SEC material information) on the IP of four separate companies, all of which would require NDAs to discuss any of their data with you. Then you've come to a public forum, and have in violation of those NDAs, are now telling us the data? If that's the case, and I contact Follica - the subsidiary of a public company - and I tell them someone claiming to know about their IP is discussing it on a public forum, and you're actually telling the truth, you're fucked. You'd be subject to a civil suit from Follica for violating the NDA, and in the off chance that you didn't sign one, for publishing privileged, proprietary IP publicly that could lead to an negative impact on their stock price (they'd have to prove those damages, but nevertheless, they'd get pass the dismissal stage). You'd also be subject to an SEC criminal investigation to determine why you posted this privileged information on a public forum.

So here's you're chance to come clean: Do you REALLY know anything about Follica or not? Because I will be contacting them about this thread and your posts.

He's claiming to be a scientific advisor with a network of other scientific advisors. AKA he's in the industry and he has gotten this info from talking to his buddies in the industry. Happens all the time in every industry. Obviously he didn't sign any CDA's to get this info. On the small chance that he's a legit insider, how about you do us all a favor and not be a f*****g narc. Thanks.

 

[wc5269]

LOL - you know nothing about IP. "Scientific advisor" ins't a legal term, and being one doesn't immunize one to the very serious business of maintaining IP integrity. Multi-hundred million dollar companies are sort of strict about how and with whom they share their data with, and anyone working in a field as proprietary as biotech knows better than to disclose that data without an NDA. That's standard operating procedure in every IP-heavy industry. You've never held a job that didn't pay by the hour, so you wouldn't know this.

Lmao I'm on salary in the pharmaceutical industry actually. If you really don't think people are talking within the industry you're the clueless one. Does insider trading not exist? You really think all info is kept in-house? That's just incredibly naive.

 

[tomJ]

Sure, because companies are in the habit of launching websites that describe the protocol, features teaser photos of the device and interface, and even renderings of the packaging for products they aren't sure will make it to market.

http://www.follicabio.com

He may be correct about follica. I see a well known hair dermatologist who said follica is far from being ready. He attends hair conferences as well. Very dissapointed.

 

[hanginginthewire]

Saturday night at HairLossTalk.com. I’m seeing group texts from friends out partying, at weddings, etc. I’m reading this sh*t. This is what baldness does. A decimated life.

Anyway back to Ms. Lee Buckler, insiders, and pipe dreams.

 

[wc5269]

Saturday night at HairLossTalk.com. I’m seeing group texts from friends out partying, at weddings, etc. I’m reading this sh*t. This is what baldness does. A decimated life.

Anyway back to Ms. Lee Buckler, insiders, and pipe dreams.

As if there aren't literally millions of balding men living fulfilling lives. You're your own problem, it's so obvious. Stop spending an unhealthy amount of time on here and go do something productive and fulfilling. This site is a good resource, not a god damn lifestyle.

 

[Kagaho]

What if some one takes finasteride and still has all their hair and the weak DSC cells. Will the implanted DHT resistant DSC cells have to compete with the existing ones since they are still there? Do you think such people still achieve "implanted cell dominance"?

Very interesting question, i think it will depend on the number of cells actually reaching the hair follicle.

I think this treatments are designed to "flood" the hair follicle with new cells so the native should be dramatically outnumbered

@InBeforeTheCure can give us a more scientifically answer maybe.

 

[hanginginthewire]

As if there aren't literally millions of balding men living fulfilling lives. You're your own problem, it's so obvious. Stop spending an unhealthy amount of time on here and go do something productive and fulfilling. This site is a good resource, not a god damn lifestyle.

I’m getting tired of these types of comments. I find hair loss to be a significant, painful challenge in my life. If you don’t, or you’ve learned to live with it, cool.

Millions of men don’t give a sh*t about their appearance and may not be clued up enough to realize it negatively impacts them. I do productive and fulfilling things. I still struggle with this problem.

 

[Kagaho]

Lmao I'm on salary in the pharmaceutical industry actually. If you really don't think people are talking within the industry you're the clueless one. Does insider trading not exist? You really think all info is kept in-house? That's just incredibly naive.

+1

This guy @occulus is overreacting.

Just wait for the RCH-01 trial data, if the numbers are accurate he would become a very valuable poster. At least thats my opinion

Also he is not discussing the details of the procedures nor any other crucial aspect.