I hairloss really worth all this trouble?

[jj_24]

Alot of good points made here. If your girl leaves you because of thinning hair thats great. You need to weed them out before you marry them. If they cant take thinning hair what are they going to do when lifes other problems come along. I want a girl who will be with me when I need them most not take off and run. If they cant take aging what are they going to do when you guys turn 50? Divorce?

 

[recboi]

Alot of good points made here. If your girl leaves you because of thinning hair thats great. You need to weed them out before you marry them. If they cant take thinning hair what are they going to do when lifes other problems come along. I want a girl who will be with me when I need them most not take off and run. If they cant take aging what are they going to do when you guys turn 50? Divorce?

Most marriages end in divorce these days. Many reasons, such as money, faded looks, boredom, loss of job, infidelity, etc...

 

[sphlanx2006]

recboi i thing you have to short some things out. Many things you say are truth but we have to realize at what extent the can influence our lives. Yes it is true that girls can get freaked out if you staff them up with your problems. You need to appear powerfull with a lot of self esteem to be appealing. But this doesnt mean that in a healthy relationship you cannot adress and try to get help for you issues. There was a time at my life i was depressed, and it was they only time i asked my girlfriend to help me. I was amazed how good she was at it. I was ready to cry all the time for more than a week and after talking with her i was feeling so much better. When i told her how much she helped me, i could see she was very happy. But you have to figure the line between a person you love and can help you and the psycotherapist.

 

[s.a.f]

I think its true that many of the people born in the past 10 - 20 yrs will either never marry or marry 2/3/4 times. But whatever, even if you have a happy marriage for 5 yrs then it turns to 5h1t at least you had 5 good yrs!
What are you going to do stay at home all your life and never get involved because the chances are that it will end in divorce?

 

[s.a.f]

Women despise weakness in men. they say they want sensitivity, but I cried in front of a women, and she hated me ever since. I remember a quote "I saw him cry, and it made me sick" from some article. and the women said she would have said she wanted the emotional type. Bullshit. It's not fair, but that's the way it is. Someone has to be on thop, and if you, the man are not, it will be a living hell. I'm living it, brother.

I have a good female freind and she offered me some similar advice. Believe me this p.c new man stuff is all bull5hit, women want a man to be a man. They dont want him to be doing the housework.

 

[recboi]

I think its true that many of the people born in the past 10 - 20 yrs will either never marry or marry 2/3/4 times. But whatever, even if you have a happy marriage for 5 yrs then it turns to 5h1t at least you had 5 good yrs!
What are you going to do stay at home all your life and never get involved because the chances are that it will end in divorce?

There's a greater than 50% chance your marriage will end in divorce. most women marry up, so if you do get divorced, you will be paying her an arm and a leg because she got "used" to the new standard of living she had... You should keep that in mind. You make a very valid point, but given the failure rates are so high today, I think other arrangements might be better like casual relationships, seeing escorts. I really think marriage is going to die out within 50 or so years unless there's another religious reawakening (and all the craziness that goes along with that)...

My ultimate conspiracy/weird belief is that because most women marry up, and because the economy is going to tank, meaning fewere and fewer rich guys, I'm thinking women will push for polygamy, so they can be married to rich guys.. Though I cannot imagine why a guy would agree to open himself up to so much divorce liability.

 

[s.a.f]

Your views are a bit pessimistic. Its worth noting that women who divorce always end up in a less financially comfortable situation than when they were married (not as worse off as a man of course) but even if they get to keep the house they dont own it 100% and they may get allamony/child support payments etc but only a percentage of their ex husbands income. Ultimatley if you're going to involve yourself in a relationship its going to cost, so thinking about it in terms of a financial investment/transaction is stupid and will only lead to a negative state of mind. When you die you wont be thinking about how much money your wife has cost you. All that will be imaterial its the memories that count and you cant put a financial value on them.

 

[s.a.f]

Look at 2007 as the year where you are calmy going to attempt to cheat your natural aging process, it can be exciting and in many cases takes a lot of weight off peoples shoulders, regardless of how succesful it is.

This could just lead to unhealthy/obsessive behaviour

 

[hairwegoagain]

There's a greater than 50% chance your marriage will end in divorce.

Recboi,

What you say may be statistically true but on the bright side YOU pick your bride. You need to choose carefully - like it's the most important decision of your life, because it is. A lot of couples choose based on fleeting commonalities. It's very important that you agree on the following subjects:

1) Morals
2) Views of Family/desire for children
3) Basic religious views or lack thereof
4) Career aspirations
5) Financial lifestyle habits - a "saver" probably won't get along too well, in the long run, with a "spender"


The list goes on....but you get the idea. In other words, stack things in your favor. Don't walk into something that you KNOW is wrong because you simply like the sex and nothing better presents itself at the moment. The above views usually do not change after marriage, so don't kid yourself. Don't think that things will get better by virtue of a couple rings and a walk down the aisle.

My guess is that couples who share or at least mesh on important life views before marriage have a much, much higher probability of staying married after the fact.

 

[Guest]

Hairwegoagain,

that's totally wrong that you need to share religious views. people with different religious views or lack thereof can get along just fine if they respect each other. I agree on the other points though.

also fatties are more likely to cheat. they cheat because they get cookies for it. :wink:

 

[JDW]

You absolutely have to stop telling your problems to your gf or she will leave you. it's a self fufilling prophesy. Women don't want to hear your problems. They want you to be there for their problems, but they will leave you because of your issues. It WILL happen, so you must either bottle it up, or just let it out on here. /quote]

Great post. To your girlfriend this really won't be an issue so just try not to let her see it affect you. The hard thing is though that it often affects your confidence so indirectly it changes your relationship with gf.

 

[ginald]

There's a greater than 50% chance your marriage will end in divorce.

Recboi,

What you say may be statistically true but on the bright side YOU pick your bride. You need to choose carefully - like it's the most important decision of your life, because it is. A lot of couples choose based on fleeting commonalities. It's very important that you agree on the following subjects:

1) Morals
2) Views of Family/desire for children
3) Basic religious views or lack thereof
4) Career aspirations
5) Financial lifestyle habits - a "saver" probably won't get along too well, in the long run, with a "spender"


The list goes on....but you get the idea. In other words, stack things in your favor. Don't walk into something that you KNOW is wrong because you simply like the sex and nothing better presents itself at the moment. The above views usually do not change after marriage, so don't kid yourself. Don't think that things will get better by virtue of a couple rings and a walk down the aisle.

My guess is that couples who share or at least mesh on important life views before marriage have a much, much higher probability of staying married after the fact.

IS THIS TURNING INTO A MARRIAGE GUIDANCE FORUM??

 

[recboi]

Your views are a bit pessimistic. Its worth noting that women who divorce always end up in a less financially comfortable situation than when they were married (not as worse off as a man of course) but even if they get to keep the house they dont own it 100% and they may get allamony/child support payments etc but only a percentage of their ex husbands income. Ultimatley if you're going to involve yourself in a relationship its going to cost, so thinking about it in terms of a financial investment/transaction is stupid and will only lead to a negative state of mind. When you die you wont be thinking about how much money your wife has cost you. All that will be imaterial its the memories that count and you cant put a financial value on them.

That money you had to spend to support a woman that divorced you probably could have been spent on stuff to make you happier, such as on vitamins, travelling, etc... Perhaps it tooks years away from your life? I just dont' see why you should pay someone after they divorce you. Is it legalized prostitution? Is that what marriage is?

 

[recboi]

There's a greater than 50% chance your marriage will end in divorce.

Recboi,

What you say may be statistically true but on the bright side YOU pick your bride. You need to choose carefully - like it's the most important decision of your life, because it is. A lot of couples choose based on fleeting commonalities. It's very important that you agree on the following subjects:

1) Morals
2) Views of Family/desire for children
3) Basic religious views or lack thereof
4) Career aspirations
5) Financial lifestyle habits - a "saver" probably won't get along too well, in the long run, with a "spender"


The list goes on....but you get the idea. In other words, stack things in your favor. Don't walk into something that you KNOW is wrong because you simply like the sex and nothing better presents itself at the moment. The above views usually do not change after marriage, so don't kid yourself. Don't think that things will get better by virtue of a couple rings and a walk down the aisle.

My guess is that couples who share or at least mesh on important life views before marriage have a much, much higher probability of staying married after the fact.

What you suggest is a lot easier said than done. Lots of people are very dishonest and present a false picture of themselves. Them of all the gay people that get married and then come out of the closet to their spouses later, even after having kids. That's a terrible thing to do. So people will lie, and use others, to get what they want, at least for a while. So the person you think you know could very well just be a facade. Apparently that's why 50% of marriages fail. I know people who dated for 10+ years before getting married, and still got divorced because the monster was later revealed..

 

[hairwegoagain]

Recboi, I agree...it is difficult. I went through a few relationships that could have easily ended in marriage had my better sense not kicked in (it took a long time!!!). My point is that you can maximize your chances for a successful partnership if you are honest about things you have or don't have in common. Many things don't seem like a big deal while you're dating because you're caught up in emotion (or too lazy or afraid to end things out of convenience) but can become significant in marriage. It's difficult to do, but you have to take a dose of rationality in the process.

By the way, it doesn't have to be marriage...it can simply be holding on to a girlfriend that isn't right for you and wasting time. I have been guilty of that a few times in the past.

The reason I brought it up is because I see a lot of desperate souls on this board...the type who would fall for anyone given they met some very minimum requirements - mainly, if the girl paid attention to them. That's very dangerous.

 

[s.a.f]

Your views are a bit pessimistic. Its worth noting that women who divorce always end up in a less financially comfortable situation than when they were married (not as worse off as a man of course) but even if they get to keep the house they dont own it 100% and they may get allamony/child support payments etc but only a percentage of their ex husbands income. Ultimatley if you're going to involve yourself in a relationship its going to cost, so thinking about it in terms of a financial investment/transaction is stupid and will only lead to a negative state of mind. When you die you wont be thinking about how much money your wife has cost you. All that will be imaterial its the memories that count and you cant put a financial value on them.

That money you had to spend to support a woman that divorced you probably could have been spent on stuff to make you happier, such as on vitamins, travelling, etc... Perhaps it tooks years away from your life? I just dont' see why you should pay someone after they divorce you. Is it legalized prostitution? Is that what marriage is?

WTF !!! :freaked:
You think that you'd be happier with vitamins than with having a woman !!
Relationships and love are the experiences that make life worth living, you cant put a price on these memories. So what if it all turns to 5h1t eventually its just life (live it enjoy it) thats what happens.

 

[ginald]

marriage is only a modern day control to try to keep the fabric of society together.

it actually runs counter to our natural instinct which is to impregnate as many women as possible....for the propagation of the species.

so why are we so surprised when 50% of marriages now end in divorce?

the wonder is that the remining 50% actually stay together....poor souls!!

this is why remaining faithful/committed to one person is so difficult...when every fibre of our being is screaming "strewth i could do with the excitement of another conquest" after more than 2 or 3 years with the same partner.

its not rocket science....its quite simple really to understand....marriage is UNNATURAL....

its just that kids need ideally 16 years of parenting from their biological parents and ....oh i cant be bothered going on but you get the idea

 

[Guest]

Hairwegoagain,

that's totally wrong that you need to share religious views. people with different religious views or lack thereof can get along just fine if they respect each other. I agree on the other points though.

also fatties are more likely to cheat. they cheat because they get cookies for it. :wink:

 

[Guest]

marriage is only a modern day control to try to keep the fabric of society together.

it actually runs counter to our natural instinct which is to impregnate as many women as possible....for the propagation of the species.

so why are we so surprised when 50% of marriages now end in divorce?

the wonder is that the remining 50% actually stay together....poor souls!!

this is why remaining faithful/committed to one person is so difficult...when every fibre of our being is screaming "strewth i could do with the excitement of another conquest" after more than 2 or 3 years with the same partner.

its not rocket science....its quite simple really to understand....marriage is UNNATURAL....

its just that kids need ideally 16 years of parenting from their biological parents and ....oh i cant be bothered going on but you get the idea

this is real horseshit that i've heard a million times before. there is nothing natural about unfaithfulness and spreading the seed. not in these times. people like to use that as an excuse for their own moral fallibility. they'd like to think that everyone else are pigs too... just like them.

 

[ginald]

marriage is only a modern day control to try to keep the fabric of society together.

it actually runs counter to our natural instinct which is to impregnate as many women as possible....for the propagation of the species.

so why are we so surprised when 50% of marriages now end in divorce?

the wonder is that the remining 50% actually stay together....poor souls!!

this is why remaining faithful/committed to one person is so difficult...when every fibre of our being is screaming "strewth i could do with the excitement of another conquest" after more than 2 or 3 years with the same partner.

its not rocket science....its quite simple really to understand....marriage is UNNATURAL....

its just that kids need ideally 16 years of parenting from their biological parents and ....oh i cant be bothered going on but you get the idea

this is real horseshit that i've heard a million times before. there is nothing natural about unfaithfulness and spreading the seed. not in these times. people like to use that as an excuse for their own moral fallibility. they'd like to think that everyone else are pigs too... just like them.

i think you been a-having a little of that soy sauce as well, jayman