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Games legit, but when thought of in the correct context. Say you're at the bar private party and everyone is socialising. A girl finds several guys equally good looking and she wants to spend the night with one, maybe get to know them more or just ONS. Either way, game becomes legit.

She'll pick the guy she gets the best vibes from. A guy might tell some story about his life which relates to her. She might find one guy funny and more trust worthy, maybe he looks at her intently but allowing her to talk, comfort. One person's career might make her more intrigued, especially his stories. Another person has a different passion but feels strongly about it like how she does about hers. One gives her a complement not many guys notice.

Congratulations, you've been gamed. Psychological warfare and body language is legit, already proven. But only if prerequisite (alpha looks) is there.

If someone is a cuck searching online = game doesn't exist. Just about looks max and a girl wanting to settle/fill a void. Or if a good looking guy wants to just get any girl at a bar then you don't need game as looks will be enough.

Game matters when competition increases in one setting, like a few good looking guys after one girl. Or if you meet a girl in the park and she's attracted but doesn't like giving numbers out as she wants to see if you'll stick around.

Social skills are important. Real life rush is real.

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In other words, here is a formula:

Attracted to looks + Personality = Sexual attraction
Not attracted to looks + personality = friendship
Not attracted to looks or personality = get the f*** away from me
 

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Are you actually f*****g these women though or just buying their dinner

Yes

Dates are such a waste of time unless you know in advance she's specifically someone you would want to be with long term.

I am looking for a LTR. It is a first date to see how we get along.

By the way, don't know what planet you are from, but this is how it works when you meet people from online, you chat, then meet up in person. If it goes well, it then leads to a second date etc etc Women are not going to f*** you straight away, unless they are sl*ts.
 
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I am looking for a LTR. It is a first date to see how we get along.

By the way, don't know what planet you are from, but this is how it works when you meet people from online, you chat, then meet up in person. If it goes well, it then leads to a second date etc etc Women are not going to f*** you straight away, unless they are sl*ts.

sl*t shamer
 

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I'm really curious about some members in this group. From what I see in posts I doubt that the majority of them is sexually active. Why are you always preaching about game and etc with terms from pick up forums? Who cares if you had sex this week and does it prove anything to yourselves by making these statements on a hair loss forum?
 

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I'm really curious about some members in this group. From what I see in posts I doubt that the majority of them is sexually active. Why are you always preaching about game and etc with terms from pick up forums? Who cares if you had sex this week and does it prove anything to yourselves by making these statements on a hair loss forum?

I’m not the one bragging
 

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I'm really curious about some members in this group. From what I see in posts I doubt that the majority of them is sexually active. Why are you always preaching about game and etc with terms from pick up forums? Who cares if you had sex this week and does it prove anything to yourselves by making these statements on a hair loss forum?
this is an open platform to discuss everyones obsession, and fear outside of there follicles - women
 

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Games legit, but when thought of in the correct context. Say you're at the bar private party and everyone is socialising. A girl finds several guys equally good looking and she wants to spend the night with one, maybe get to know them more or just ONS. Either way, game becomes legit.

She'll pick the guy she gets the best vibes from. A guy might tell some story about his life which relates to her. She might find one guy funny and more trust worthy, maybe he looks at her intently but allowing her to talk, comfort. One person's career might make her more intrigued, especially his stories. Another person has a different passion but feels strongly about it like how she does about hers. One gives her a complement not many guys notice.

Congratulations, you've been gamed. Psychological warfare and body language is legit, already proven. But only if prerequisite (alpha looks) is there.

If someone is a cuck searching online = game doesn't exist. Just about looks max and a girl wanting to settle/fill a void. Or if a good looking guy wants to just get any girl at a bar then you don't need game as looks will be enough.

Game matters when competition increases in one setting, like a few good looking guys after one girl. Or if you meet a girl in the park and she's attracted but doesn't like giving numbers out as she wants to see if you'll stick around.

Social skills are important. Real life rush is real.

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At this point it's absolutely no point trying to convince the tin foil hat possy otherwise.

Learning how to actually pull a women the following night is all into how you emotionally make her feel. A women wants to know that outside of finding you physically attractive that you make her feel safe, and that you are overall a fun guy. Not some weird dude who can barely articulate himself, and not even make her laugh. men are all about logic - She's hot, great tits... okay I am down to f***. Women most be triggered more so emotionally to want to be with you that following night.

This is something I have confirmed with many women I have gotten to this following year. In fact, I ask them about our interaction and how it all got to where we are right now. Me in her bed going balls deep inside of her pussy. ITS ALL ABOUT how I made them feel. Guess what, every single women has told me the same sh*t outside of the most obvious 'uhh derp, your handsome'. Its unfortunately not enough, despite what sexually frustrated incels want to believe.

Every single women I have fucked this year has told me that initially they had no intention of sleeping with me. And no a random club make out, is not enough for her to want you to f*** her the following night. It helps, but there have been situations where I didn't even make out with the chick, but still went back to her or my place afterwards. In fact, I try to limit club make outs, because they take tension away from the real deal. When I do kiss, its more of a tease rather then to please.


I see tons of good looking guys who stagnate, and masterbate. They have no idea, that there weak game and lack of ability to stimulate her mentally is the reason why they go home alone every weekend. Sure, they gel there hair, try to look great... but never manage to actually bring a women home. They might get a random makeout, because in a womens point of view its safe, and doesn't require much out of her. But the actually art of bringing her home, and having her naked leaves her vulnerable. When you are naked like adam and eve, you are open for judgment which women dont want. Unless its with the right guy, the same guy who made her laugh, and mentally stimulated her on every angle of her emotions.

In fact, pulling a women from a club is quite difficult... Most men fail, because of aforementioned reasons. We also face other women that want social proof that you are a cool guy. Not some random fucktard who's trying to caveman grind her in the club. There are many obstacles involved when succesfully pulling a chick.


Numbers, and make outs are an absolute joke. Pulling? ha, unless you learn how to seduce a women emotionally... it wont happen routinely. maybe a fluke pull, but not in a routine manner.
 

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I'm really curious about some members in this group. From what I see in posts I doubt that the majority of them is sexually active. Why are you always preaching about game and etc with terms from pick up forums? Who cares if you had sex this week and does it prove anything to yourselves by making these statements on a hair loss forum?


You cared enough to b**ch about it.

Women and sex in some aspect is the biggest subject of male conversation in the real world too. Can hardly expect different here.
 

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You cared enough to b**ch about it.

Women and sex in some aspect is the biggest subject of male conversation in the real world too. Can hardly expect different here.

Are you sure that you understood what I wrote?
 

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The fact that someone talks about sex or game doesn't mean they are trying to prove something or impress others. You're triggered because of your own insecurities on the matter.

Lol. You didn't understand didn't you? As for triggered, I ain't the one disliking posts like a 17 y.o. Such a shame you take this personally, but you're young and you'll learn later in life.
 

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Lol. You didn't understand didn't you? As for triggered, I ain't the one disliking posts like a 17 y.o. Such a shame you take this personally, but you're young and you'll learn later in life.

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In other words, here is a formula:

Attracted to looks + Personality = Sexual attraction
Not attracted to looks + personality = friendship
Not attracted to looks or personality = get the f*** away from me

attracted to looks + gives her the back boy tingles THUG = sex without friendship
 

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At this point it's absolutely no point trying to convince the tin foil hat possy otherwise.

Learning how to actually pull a women the following night is all into how you emotionally make her feel. A women wants to know that outside of finding you physically attractive that you make her feel safe, and that you are overall a fun guy. Not some weird dude who can barely articulate himself, and not even make her laugh. men are all about logic - She's hot, great tits... okay I am down to f***. Women most be triggered more so emotionally to want to be with you that following night.

This is something I have confirmed with many women I have gotten to this following year. In fact, I ask them about our interaction and how it all got to where we are right now. Me in her bed going balls deep inside of her pussy. ITS ALL ABOUT how I made them feel. Guess what, every single women has told me the same sh*t outside of the most obvious 'uhh derp, your handsome'. Its unfortunately not enough, despite what sexually frustrated incels want to believe.

Every single women I have fucked this year has told me that initially they had no intention of sleeping with me. And no a random club make out, is not enough for her to want you to f*** her the following night. It helps, but there have been situations where I didn't even make out with the chick, but still went back to her or my place afterwards. In fact, I try to limit club make outs, because they take tension away from the real deal. When I do kiss, its more of a tease rather then to please.


I see tons of good looking guys who stagnate, and masterbate. They have no idea, that there weak game and lack of ability to stimulate her mentally is the reason why they go home alone every weekend. Sure, they gel there hair, try to look great... but never manage to actually bring a women home. They might get a random makeout, because in a womens point of view its safe, and doesn't require much out of her. But the actually art of bringing her home, and having her naked leaves her vulnerable. When you are naked like adam and eve, you are open for judgment which women dont want. Unless its with the right guy, the same guy who made her laugh, and mentally stimulated her on every angle of her emotions.

In fact, pulling a women from a club is quite difficult... Most men fail, because of aforementioned reasons. We also face other women that want social proof that you are a cool guy. Not some random fucktard who's trying to caveman grind her in the club. There are many obstacles involved when succesfully pulling a chick.


Numbers, and make outs are an absolute joke. Pulling? ha, unless you learn how to seduce a women emotionally... it wont happen routinely. maybe a fluke pull, but not in a routine manner.

I agree that an emotional connection is important, this is what women call 'Chemistry'. BUT, to highlight your point in bold...

*tin foil hat on* have you ever thought that some guys just don't like clubs or bars???!

Oh and by the way, I have a friend who gets pussy in those environments via looks alone.
 

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Is 2 dates in 2 weeks meant to be special online? Also depends how hot.

No and by the way that figure could be higher.

There is probably A LOT of guys who are not even going on any dates...I was that guy until recently.
 

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You're right about clubs/socialising not for everyone in terms of getting girls. I don't buy the work load/schedule argument. Since I work a lot of hours and with an irregular shift pattern. Sometimes I've done 70 hour weeks. There's always time for one night, chill zone. It does depend on having a good social circle though and as Shookwun said, being seen as cool and knowing many people in the same place you go to. Establishing bonds with the staff, bartenders and meeting new people - guys and girls. A lot of times being cool is to do with looking alpha/ masculine, dressing accordingly, mixing and mingling, that's what the girls want to see. They want a fun time, random chats and make outs to beyond, under the influence of music and alcohol. A high. It's not a method for all. Visible balding is a no no too unless you're black and shaved generally speaking. I still do this occasionally and I'm treated well by people which makes me realise I still blend in despite being older. Though I look mid 20s max.

I'm glad it worked out for you online in the end and hope you find someone you truly like.

When I go out to clubs/bars it is strictly to have a good time with my friends, if I am lucky enough and pull, then that is a bonus. The people in these environments are generally shallow, and it is expensive which is why I do not enjoy it. I can easily spend 100 pounds in one night in a club.
 

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Of course it's superficial, it's based on looks and fitting in like I said! By dismissing it as it's shallow sounds like when bald/beta guys say I deserve a better real girl who will talk to me. No one is disputing it's shallow in a club, but it's really fun if you blend in. I had a lot of memorable nights in my 20s with my friends and wider social group. Memories I'd trade for nothing. It's all about being young and looking good: clothes/cologne/hairstyles. It sounds like you don't enjoy doing it much as you said you're an introvert which is fair enough.

Ah you're from the UK too. If you pre session (like most do), the cost is low inside. Free entry as well if you're a regular or come with girls.

Yeah, even with a NW0, I have never really fitted in those environments to be honest, I am an average looking guy and as you say, extroverts excel in these environments.
 

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And there's nothing wrong with that mate. Everyone is different in looks and what they enjoy. I'm not an extrovert or introvert, probably something in the middle. But I get by in that situation based on looks and making enough conversation. I can chat a lot when I'm happy or a bit drunk. I enjoyed spending money in the club too when I felt like it, buying all my mates a round. Honestly it was good bonding time but need a close nit set of friends. We did it across Europe too and got some summer plans. I found it a good stress release in my 20s and feel good factor.

What's your Norwood now and are you diffuse? On meds?

I am a NW2, not on any meds but trying zix, hair is thinner but still very thick
 

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At this point it's absolutely no point trying to convince the tin foil hat possy otherwise.

Learning how to actually pull a women the following night is all into how you emotionally make her feel. A women wants to know that outside of finding you physically attractive that you make her feel safe, and that you are overall a fun guy. Not some weird dude who can barely articulate himself, and not even make her laugh. men are all about logic - She's hot, great tits... okay I am down to f***. Women most be triggered more so emotionally to want to be with you that following night.

This is something I have confirmed with many women I have gotten to this following year. In fact, I ask them about our interaction and how it all got to where we are right now. Me in her bed going balls deep inside of her pussy. ITS ALL ABOUT how I made them feel. Guess what, every single women has told me the same sh*t outside of the most obvious 'uhh derp, your handsome'. Its unfortunately not enough, despite what sexually frustrated incels want to believe.

Every single women I have fucked this year has told me that initially they had no intention of sleeping with me. And no a random club make out, is not enough for her to want you to f*** her the following night. It helps, but there have been situations where I didn't even make out with the chick, but still went back to her or my place afterwards. In fact, I try to limit club make outs, because they take tension away from the real deal. When I do kiss, its more of a tease rather then to please.


I see tons of good looking guys who stagnate, and masterbate. They have no idea, that there weak game and lack of ability to stimulate her mentally is the reason why they go home alone every weekend. Sure, they gel there hair, try to look great... but never manage to actually bring a women home. They might get a random makeout, because in a womens point of view its safe, and doesn't require much out of her. But the actually art of bringing her home, and having her naked leaves her vulnerable. When you are naked like adam and eve, you are open for judgment which women dont want. Unless its with the right guy, the same guy who made her laugh, and mentally stimulated her on every angle of her emotions.

In fact, pulling a women from a club is quite difficult... Most men fail, because of aforementioned reasons. We also face other women that want social proof that you are a cool guy. Not some random fucktard who's trying to caveman grind her in the club. There are many obstacles involved when succesfully pulling a chick.


Numbers, and make outs are an absolute joke. Pulling? ha, unless you learn how to seduce a women emotionally... it wont happen routinely. maybe a fluke pull, but not in a routine manner.
Now this is confidence. Great post @shookwun. I liked the adam and eve reference. It reminds me of Jordan Peterson's interpretation in his new book. I was like shook and always asked women what they saw in me. Of course, they remarked about my looks and hair, but it was my ability to be creative, sense of humor, and interesting stories that charmed them. Not only that but I would always talk on deep emotional levels that would align with their own levels. I never was afraid to show vulnerability and humility. You got to be yourself too. You got to be worldly somewhat either thru books or traveling. I once got rejected because I was not worldly enough. Never traveled like Afro. I think Afro is real worldly.
 

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Now this is confidence. Great post @shookwun. I liked the adam and eve reference. It reminds me of Jordan Peterson's interpretation in his new book. I was like shook and always asked women what they saw in me. Of course, they remarked about my looks and hair, but it was my ability to be creative, sense of humor, and interesting stories that charmed them. Not only that but I would always talk on deep emotional levels that would align with their own levels. I never was afraid to show vulnerability and humility. You got to be yourself too. You got to be worldly somewhat either thru books or traveling. I once got rejected because I was not worldly enough. Never traveled like Afro. I think Afro is real worldly.


its been a massive game changer for me.

People can talk all the sh*t they want, but man I am seeing the difference every weekend that goes by.

I ended up pulling 3 chicks this weekend. fri, sat , sunday I HAVE NEVER DONE THIS IN MY ENTIRE LIFE

So yeah, people can say what they want. 2 months ago I could barely get a make out in the club.

It was never my looks, it was my vibe, energy and lack of game.
 
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