Hitman (the film)

hhj1247

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I just watched this movie last night on HBO. Aside from being awful piece of crap, is anyone disappointed that they didn't pick Jason Statham for this movie? This role was made for him. At least pick a bald guy! They picked a guy with a full head of hair and just shaved him down. They won't even pick bald guys for bald roles.

Anyway heres Timothy Olyphant (who played Agent 47):
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Here's Statham:
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Which one looks like Hitman from the game?
 

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I bet they would have jumped at the chance to have Stratham in it instead of some 47 year old unknown actor.

I'd bet good money they either approached Stratham and he turned it down as it's a sh*t film, or he was too busy, the guy was in 5 films in 2007/2008!
 

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Hammer87 said:
I bet they would have jumped at the chance to have Stratham in it instead of some 47 year old unknown actor.

I'd bet good money they either approached Stratham and he turned it down as it's a sh*t film, or he was too busy, the guy was in 5 films in 2007/2008!

Stathams never been known to turn down a role on account of it being sh*t! :mrgreen:
 

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Anthony83 said:
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Yeah, the film had a 'jailbreak' theme to it.

Jason Statham would make a great 007.

there will never be a bald 007 i would bet.

I was thinking this. 007 would be great, but there's too much prejudice against bald guys for him to get the part. I think we'll have a black bond b4 a bald one.
 

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Why would there be a bald Bond? Bond follows the story from books. - And in the books he has hair.

People look too deeply into things sometimes.

'OMG there'll never be bald Bond because bald in horrible!!!' - No, because it follows the books in which Bond has hair. For the same reason they'll never be a black Bond, unless it's to 'make a statement'.
 

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The films being made now differ immensley from the books that were written about 70yrs ago and I dont think that bonds hair is really integral to the plot of any of them. :dunno:
 

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When I saw the trailer for the Hitman film I was like "STATHAM STATHAM STATHAM" and then BAM that weird looking dude. He looked so strange with that shaved head.

But Statham would need to increase the intensity of his glare to be Agent 47 and tone down the cluelessness, because the bloke does have that "whachumean?" air about him when he glares. Other than that, he's pretty much perfect.
 

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Hammer87 said:
Why would there be a bald Bond? Bond follows the story from books. - And in the books he has hair.

People look too deeply into things sometimes.

'OMG there'll never be bald Bond because bald in horrible!!!' - No, because it follows the books in which Bond has hair. For the same reason they'll never be a black Bond, unless it's to 'make a statement'.
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The films being made now differ immensley from the books that were written about 70yrs ago and I dont think that bonds hair is really integral to the plot of any of them. :dunno:
So S.A.F. just shot down your devil's advocate defense against the strong evidence that bald is still not acceptable, especially for a role only reserved for the best specimens the male race has to offer, the role of James Bond. You know, for someone who posts on here as much as you do, you sure have a sunny disposition when it comes to this topic of hair loss, to the point where you feel like you have to contest every testimonial lamenting lost hair. Are you not bothered by your own hair loss, hammer? Do you have hair loss? I mean, if things really aren't as bad as you say they are, then why are you even here, why do you even care? You have repeatedly proven that you are incapable of acknowledging anyone's suffering by disputing it at every turn. Oh, what your feeling isn't real. It's all in your head. You're being paranoid, reading to deeply into things. I'm beginning to get offended by your blind defense of any notion that contradicts the very real suffering that comes with hairloss. The fact remains that you will never see a bald Bond because Bond represents the ideal man and baldness (weather you can admit it or not) is still considered an unattractive, undesireable trait. So go ahead now with your empty counterpoint....
 

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uncomfortable man said:
Hammer87 said:
Why would there be a bald Bond? Bond follows the story from books. - And in the books he has hair.

People look too deeply into things sometimes.

'OMG there'll never be bald Bond because bald in horrible!!!' - No, because it follows the books in which Bond has hair. For the same reason they'll never be a black Bond, unless it's to 'make a statement'.
[quote="s.a.f":3otrc77c]The films being made now differ immensley from the books that were written about 70yrs ago and I dont think that bonds hair is really integral to the plot of any of them. :dunno:
So S.A.F. just shot down your devil's advocate defense against the strong evidence that bald is still not acceptable, especially for a role only reserved for the best specimens the male race has to offer, the role of James Bond. You know, for someone who posts on here as much as you do, you sure have a sunny disposition when it comes to this topic of hair loss, to the point where you feel like you have to contest every testimonial lamenting lost hair. Are you not bothered by your own hair loss, hammer? Do you have hair loss? I mean, if things really aren't as bad as you say they are, then why are you even here, why do you even care? You have repeatedly proven that you are incapable of acknowledging anyone's suffering by disputing it at every turn. Oh, what your feeling isn't real. It's all in your head. You're being paranoid, reading to deeply into things. I'm beginning to get offended by your blind defense of any notion that contradicts the very real suffering that comes with hairloss. The fact remains that you will never see a bald Bond because Bond represents the ideal man and baldness (weather you can admit it or not) is still considered an unattractive, undesireable trait. So go ahead now with your empty counterpoint....[/quote:3otrc77c]


I'm not going to read all of that since I'm so hungover. But to summarise - Yes I'm bothered by my hairloss, but not the point which I'd let it ruin me. I post here a lot as currently I'm only doing part time work, so post on ALOT of forums (thisis the only hairloss one) out of boredom but I'm here with the attitude 'Since there is maybe something I could do, I may as well try' - If there would no meds and this place was simply to discuss hairloss I wouldn't be here and just get on with life. I'm not even on any meds at the moment as I'm still comtemplating whether I can be assed with it.


When have I ever said bald isn't an undesirable trait? - Check some of my other posts, regarding this they all say it is. But it's a trait...just one trait.

-Bond in the books is almost 'the perfect man' physically (Not mentally), having no hair would not make him perfect, and would therefore not 'look like what Bond is supposed to' no matter how good looking he was, he simply wouldn't look like Bond. - How hard is that to understand? Even Daniel Craig got a lot of stick for not looking like Bond. Bond is Bond, Bald is not Bond. Calum Best is a better looking man than at least 4 of the previous Bonds including the current, would he ever be Bond - NO as he is bald and therefore looks nothing like what Bond is supposed to look like. I do not even know how this is debateable so regardless of your reply (If you choose to) I'm not going to bother replying.


Would a blackman /Chinese/Asian be Bond? No
Would a man in a wheelchair be Bond? No
Would a 20-25 year old be Bond? No
A man who wore permanently wore glasses? No
Braces? No
60 year old? No
Long hair? No
Gunger haired? No
Fat? No
Skinny? No
Full head of shaved hair? No

Bond is an image created from the books that only certain actors can fullfill. A bald man or any of the above would not be Bond as they simply wouldn't fit the part.


Anyway UM, if it makes you feel better I'm not going to bother posting in the 'Impact of Hairloss' forum anymore. I only did before as there was some interesting discussion, but I accept as hairloss doesn't bother me anywhere near as much as it does to you and others, so hasn't really had an 'impact' on me, it's not really my place.
 

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Hammer87 said:
Would a blackman /Chinese/Asian be Bond? No
Would a man in a wheelchair be Bond? No
Would a 20-25 year old be Bond? No
A man who wore permanently wore glasses? No
Braces? No
60 year old? No
Long hair? No
Gunger haired? No
Fat? No
Skinny? No
Full head of shaved hair? No

Blackman/Asian be Bond? Yes definatley if there was a actor of suitable Charisma, imagine if there was a black English actor with the kind of profile Will Smith has, I'm sure they'd be willing to let him play the part. Infact I believe that it will only be a matter of time if they keep making Bond films.

20/60yr old Bond, well obviously this is integral to the part because Bond has to have progressed to the level of British agent and Navy Commander, But a 25 yr old actor who could pass for being 30+ could play the part as did a 59 yr old Roger Moore who could pass for being in his 40's.

Glasses/braces - Unlikely but not impossible

Ginger hair - Definatley if blonde is ok why not ginger?


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You cant tell me that Damien Lewis could'nt be cast as Bond just because he's ginger?

Fat/skinny - Well for the physical role its a requirement but when you think about Daniel Craig is the first Bond to be buff. Pierce Brosnan was pretty weedy.

Long hair/shaved/Buzzcut? - Why not?


To sum up my arguement Bond has moved with the times, maybe in the 60's Sean Connery wearing a saville row suit with a nice neat English barbers haircut fitted the stereotype of what stylish sophistication was. But now in the 21st century that look is not so predetermind.
If the producers were willing to cast a blonde as Bond then in time they will be willing diversify even more otherwise the franchise will not achieve its full potential.
 

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Sure, there are plenty of things that would disqualify someone from being Bond, but that point doesn't detract from my own point that bald men aren't cast for the leading roles in almost any film, rather the villian (whats that tell you?) not just in 007. Besides, Bond is kind of an old male shovenist archetype that echoes the values of the fifties. Why not have a female 007 agent who is a lesbian so she can still have her hot bond girl? Anyway, I hope you got some useful info while you were here but considering your initial reason for being on this site (more specifically this section) was out of boredom just proves that this resourse naturally means less to you than it does for others- more so for entertainment value than anything else. I can't really blame you for that as I have enjoyed reading others posts, the freedom to state my point of view, form bonds and engage in thought provoking debates. This is just a great site imo.
 

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uncomfortable man said:
Sure, there are plenty of things that would disqualify someone from being Bond, but that point doesn't detract from my own point that bald men aren't cast for the leading roles in almost any film, rather the villian (whats that tell you?) not just in 007. Besides, Bond is kind of an old male shovenist archetype that echoes the values of the fifties. Why not have a female 007 agent who is a lesbian so she can still have her hot bond girl? Anyway, I hope you got some useful info while you were here but considering your initial reason for being on this site (more specifically this section) was out of boredom just proves that this resourse naturally means less to you than it does for others- more so for entertainment value than anything else. I can't really blame you for that as I have enjoyed reading others posts, the freedom to state my point of view, form bonds and engage in thought provoking debates. This is just a great site imo.

All inspired by negative self defeating thoughts, no less.
 

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If Statham landed a Bond role, I think it would make thining hair more socially acceptable. He has every trait needed to be Bond, except the dude has a horseshoe patten and the best part is he just shaves it close and and kicks *** in action movies. He'd be perfect for Bond. He may never be Bond, but I think it would be the "Black guy being elected President" for bald guys.

Anyway, the original purpose for this topic was to suggest that not only wont Statham become Bond, but they passed him up for what's his name for a bald character role that he would have been perfect for. Hitman was a piece of crap, but 47 from the game certainly brings Statham to mind.. well before Olyphant! I don't know if he was asked for the job, not that it really even matters.
 

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That would be great to see statham as bond. As far as hitman goes, the original character from the game didn't have male pattern baldness. He had to keep it shaved as a precautionary measure so he wouldn't leave any dna behind.
 

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uncomfortable man said:
That would be great to see statham as bond. As far as hitman goes, the original character from the game didn't have male pattern baldness. He had to keep it shaved as a precautionary measure so he wouldn't leave any dna behind.

They're pretty retarded for stating THAT as the reason why. Dont nw7's also have hair to leave behind?
 
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