Going Norwood 6 While Taking Propecia ??

michel sapin

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Hi guys , is it possible to beome Norwood 6 despite the fact of being on propecia ?
Because i started at 21 Norwood 1,5 , now i am almost 24 Norwood 2,5-3 .
My genetic is too aggressive , and by the age of 30 i will be bald .
I am desesperate , i am on propecia and minoxidil . What can i do more , i still have bad sides on propecia , duta would ruin me . I am stuck here .
 

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I understand what you're going through man. Asking questions you KNOW no one has the answer too because you have no control over this horrible situation and are desperate. Just remember, no matter how many times you ask, NO one knows your physiology and NO one can answer with any degree of certainty. It is what it is man.
 

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This is what you are fighting for
 

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AnxiousAndy

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Hi guys , is it possible to beome Norwood 6 despite the fact of being on propecia ?
Because i started at 21 Norwood 1,5 , now i am almost 24 Norwood 2,5-3 .
My genetic is too aggressive , and by the age of 30 i will be bald .
I am desesperate , i am on propecia and minoxidil . What can i do more , i still have bad sides on propecia , duta would ruin me . I am stuck here .

You should give topical spironolactone a chance, I've just ordered a tub, its supposed to help maintain. I know the feels Michel im almost NW3 myself, it makes me want to cry.
 

AnxiousAndy

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Well i'll see for myself, just because it didn't work for you doesn't mean it definitely wont for me. Since propecia is only making things worse for me it makes sense to use spironolactone as it stops T from binding to the hairs follicle receptor. if that fails i'll give oral spironolactone a go. I'm willing to do almost anything to save my hair except dutasteride and minoxidil
 

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Well i'll see for myself, just because it didn't work for you doesn't mean it definitely wont for me. Since propecia is only making things worse for me it makes sense to use spironolactone as it stops T from binding to the hairs follicle receptor. if that fails i'll give oral spironolactone a go. I'm willing to do almost anything to save my hair except dutasteride and minoxidil
That is not the point. Only minoxidil and finas(or dutas) have real impact on alopecia due to scientific studies. Shampoos, vitamins etc can make your hair healthy but won't make your hair to stop dropping. All the products but those are just scam.
 

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Well i'll see for myself, just because it didn't work for you doesn't mean it definitely wont for me. Since propecia is only making things worse for me it makes sense to use spironolactone as it stops T from binding to the hairs follicle receptor. if that fails i'll give oral spironolactone a go. I'm willing to do almost anything to save my hair except dutasteride and minoxidil

Good choice. I have started oral spironolactone before finasteride to avoid the effect of increased T-level from finasteride. I didn't lose any hair since then and now I am only getting beter, despite the fact how low is my dosage. Wish I had know about spironolactone between the age of 15 and 19, because I always was highly self-conscious due to my oily skin and hairy arms. Now it's not a problem anymore (just month on spironolactone, finasteride and recently cypro).
 

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Good choice. I have started oral spironolactone before finasteride to avoid the effect of increased T-level from finasteride. I didn't lose any hair since then and now I am only getting beter, despite the fact how low is my dosage. Wish I had know about spironolactone between the age of 15 and 19, because I always was highly self-conscious due to my oily skin and hairy arms. Now it's not a problem anymore (just month on spironolactone, finasteride and recently cypro).
what about sides?
 

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Good choice. I have started oral spironolactone before finasteride to avoid the effect of increased T-level from finasteride. I didn't lose any hair since then and now I am only getting beter, despite the fact how low is my dosage. Wish I had know about spironolactone between the age of 15 and 19, because I always was highly self-conscious due to my oily skin and hairy arms. Now it's not a problem anymore (just month on spironolactone, finasteride and recently cypro).
Good choice. I have started oral spironolactone before finasteride to avoid the effect of increased T-level from finasteride. I didn't lose any hair since then and now I am only getting beter, despite the fact how low is my dosage. Wish I had know about spironolactone between the age of 15 and 19, because I always was highly self-conscious due to my oily skin and hairy arms. Now it's not a problem anymore (just month on spironolactone, finasteride and recently cypro).
what about sides?

Im glad to hear you are having success with the addition of spironolactone :D I think im one of the guys whose follicles are sensitive to T, otherwise i would of improved or continued to bald at the same rate, maybe slower while on propecia. If i maintain with spironolactone i may drop propecia to see if i could improve further. Its good to hear from someone who has had a positive experience, ill be keeping my fingers crossed lol.
 

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Hi guys , is it possible to beome Norwood 6 despite the fact of being on propecia ?
Because i started at 21 Norwood 1,5 , now i am almost 24 Norwood 2,5-3 .
My genetic is too aggressive , and by the age of 30 i will be bald .
I am desesperate , i am on propecia and minoxidil . What can i do more , i still have bad sides on propecia , duta would ruin me . I am stuck here .
You said your hair was not as bad as that guy who was 20 and he is only a NW2 still. I have a feeling your hair is that same as when you started finasteride but you won't show a photo ever.
 

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Hi guys , is it possible to beome Norwood 6 despite the fact of being on propecia ?
Because i started at 21 Norwood 1,5 , now i am almost 24 Norwood 2,5-3 .
My genetic is too aggressive , and by the age of 30 i will be bald .
I am desesperate , i am on propecia and minoxidil . What can i do more , i still have bad sides on propecia , duta would ruin me . I am stuck here .
I got more sides on finasteride..the worst side of all was watching my new, healthy hair fall out in the sink. The dutasteride scare is just that..a scare. I now take dutasteride eod and have minimal shedding compared to finasteride and fewer sides..your choice though.
 

michel sapin

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Sure kidbako, but you 've got your gyno gland remove , so you are safer than any other people .
And doctor . When i started i was better than him . And no offense to the dude , but now he is more than a Norwood 2 and got some crown thinning
 

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Anybody had their prolactin levels checked?

I just read on a hormone blog website that elevated prolactin levels is a major triggering factor for setting off intense upregulation of 5-ar which results of course, in accelerated and rapid conversion of T to DHT. Apparently this applies to both men, women, and everybody in between.

Finasteride and dutasteride are well-known to cause high prolactin. I wonder if, in those individuals who have genetics-caused exceptionally high androgen hypersensitivity, if this is the actual endocrine system mechanism that's f*****g you guys over so badly when you tried finasteride or dutasteride?

There is an herbal treatment used to lower prolactin, it's marketed under the name of Vitex and used by women to help period problems caused by too high prolactin. It's made from the Chasteberry, which was used by monks in olden times to quell their libido (so guys, you've been warned about it). Here's some info :http://www.larabriden.com/vitex-for-period-problems/
 

ahmed wolf

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Anybody had their prolactin levels checked?

I just read on a hormone blog website that elevated prolactin levels is a major triggering factor for setting off intense upregulation of 5-ar which results of course, in accelerated and rapid conversion of T to DHT. Apparently this applies to both men, women, and everybody in between.

Finasteride and dutasteride are well-known to cause high prolactin. I wonder if, in those individuals who have genetics-caused exceptionally high androgen hypersensitivity, if this is the actual endocrine system mechanism that's f*****g you guys over so badly when you tried finasteride or dutasteride?

There is an herbal treatment used to lower prolactin, it's marketed under the name of Vitex and used by women to help period problems caused by too high prolactin. It's made from the Chasteberry, which was used by monks in olden times to quell their libido (so guys, you've been warned about it). Here's some info :http://www.larabriden.com/vitex-for-period-problems/
i saw that 2
i took finasteride for 3 days got sides I stopped took a blood test 2 weeks later my prolactin were high at 23 after a week they back to normal around 10
it looks my body reacted to the lack of 5ar by increasing prolactin and that lead me to low libido even if my prolactin wernt that high but its high for my body considering I used trenbolon before thats proven to increase prolactin levels but didn't happen to me
 

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topical spironolactone is a scam form my point of view ; I tried it last year on my hairline with 0 result

I think in its current form it might be, but oral spironolactone works doesnt it? Topical spironolactone might work, but its the same old story. How much to be effective? What vehicle does it take to get enough there to work? Hard questions with no answers.
If you dont do it all right it might not work, and what the ready made stuff uses doesnt seem to. I also tried it and it did nothing for me. I dont think it works, but under the right circumstances it might.
 
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