Going Bald In Less Than A Year, Need Advice

bluecyclone

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Will you at least finally admit that in under three years I have thinned dramatically.
 

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Accepting age and a notable decline, why even use these treatments if they are ineffective against age related male pattern baldness? That’s really where a I get tripped up... 14 dermatologists 2 biopsies and no one will call the AA but they all will say the shedding is abnormal and the sheer number of new hairs is also abnormal related to shed.

If I can break the nightmare that comes
With every shower I’ll chill out. The shed is so f*****g distracting no matter what I’m doing or experiencing I am constantly distracted by falling hair.

would you stop the treatments? Go harder more Dutasteride RU?

Any thoughts on how the Iron IV slowed down the shed and made the hair 400% better for 2 months? Ferritin dropped under 100 and shed started again. Oral Iron at crazy doses never raised my ferritin.
You may have mentioned this already, but this is a long thread - did the derms you saw check for miniaturisation?
 

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They said said there is at best 10% miniaturization under the scope and that my problem isn’t AA.

I’m on meds because I know it it even in part d as and trying slow permanent loss.

I have had no positive response to Finasteride, RU. Oral minoxidil was great the first two years now just manes me feel awful.

2 iron IVs December and January, hair shed slowed, hair color returned, lasted until late February when FERRITIN levels dropped from 250 to 78. HEMOtologist won’t given more IVs until I drop back under 40.
 

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Will you at least finally admit that in under three years I have thinned dramatically.
I don't know if I would use the word "dramatically". Your hair dry looks totally normal for your age. Yes, you have lost some density but normal at your age. I can't stress enough how I see most men with great hair all their lives start to decline in the 40's and 50's. However, I do see some exceptions but they are mostly hispanic or middle eastern and tend to have super low hairlines.
 

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I know my photos have been all over the place but wanted to share a 2.5 year photo against current. The ones where I still had black hair are pre- minoxidil which was the worst mistake I’ve ever made. Then RU 6 months.

I have lost a ton of hair and continue to shed and tried Propecia/Topical Finasteride just hit 22 months. Density is hard to photograph but Propecia only seems to make it worse.

I have a ton of somewhat miniaturized but not technically dead hairs all over my scalp .5-3 inches indicating the heavy shedding.

I have access to HGH, could this help? If I can stop the constant shed I will quietly jump off the forums and live my life. 500 hair showers are not sustainable.
 

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Any thoughts on how the Iron IV slowed down the shed and made the hair 400% better for 2 months? Ferritin dropped under 100 and shed started again. Oral Iron at crazy doses never raised my ferritin.

It's not the iron, it's the red blood cell count. But don't mind me, i am just passing through.
 

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Dude I am on it. Have 3 different hematologists and trying to get them to acknowledge the issue. They stopped approving the Iron be so I’m at the low end of normal range now (39 ferritin). My CBC counts are at the bottoms edge of their ‘range’ so it is a struggle. What did they do for you to help RBC?
 
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I think at some point you’re going to have to come to terms with the idea that nothing will ever work for you. No treatment is guaranteed to work; finasteride/dutasteride don’t save your hair, they give you a shot at saving your hair. It can be a hard pill to swallow, but if events don’t play out the way you wished they would, you’re just not responding to the treatment.
 

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Yes it’s fucked up and probably didn’t have to go this way this fast. The treatments 100% accelerated a situation that would have been far more gradual. Makes it even hard to deal with, also knowing that there is probably an answer even if it’s transplants etc. to make things better. I’ve been willing and able to put for the resources but haven’t been able to get any consistent medical guidance for 3 years. And while sure there still a lot of hair, it is a fraction of what it was. Makes me suicidal.

density if decimated and doesn’t stop shedding
 

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Yes it’s fucked up and probably didn’t have to go this way this fast. The treatments 100% accelerated a situation that would have been far more gradual. Makes it even hard to deal with, also knowing that there is probably an answer even if it’s transplants etc. to make things better. I’ve been willing and able to put for the resources but haven’t been able to get any consistent medical guidance for 3 years. And while sure there still a lot of hair, it is a fraction of what it was. Makes me suicidal.

density if decimated and doesn’t stop shedding
Get a grip...no need to be suicidal as people have tried to put things in perspective for you...there are far worst things...you hair is better than most for your age...focus on the positive instead of the negative. Obsession and dwelling over this one thing is not good. Maybe STOP all hair loss meds and coming on here so often, and looking in mirror would benefit your mental well-being.
 

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This is the kind of hair that’s falling out now with even the slightest touch from my forelock and hairline. This is .75 inch most are about .5. Looks like thinning/tapered roots.

I could have stopped this and I failed. I just bought a ton of CB that will probably never make it to the US or will be fake. I’m desperate. Want to die really, this is so f*****g defeating. My hairline was still solid in June. My hair was black now it’s all gone even after jumping back on Propecia. WTF.
 

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This is the kind of hair that’s falling out now with even the slightest touch from my forelock and hairline. This is .75 inch most are about .5. Looks like thinning/tapered roots.

I could have stopped this and I failed. I just bought a ton of CB that will probably never make it to the US or will be fake. I’m desperate. Want to die really, this is so f*****g defeating. My hairline was still solid in June. My hair was black now it’s all gone even after jumping back on Propecia. WTF.
I bought a ton of CB a while back from Alibaba and didn’t use it that long because I had another Telogen Effluvium and horrible shed while on it. I don’t know if it’s fake or my Telogen Effluvium was a result from being on oral finasteride even though I was off of it for a while or whatever. Let me know if you want it free of charge but chill out. You don’t know how bad things can get. My hair was pretty good before starting finasteride and then it all went to hell and I lost so much hair that never fully recovered and it is diffused much worst then I lost a close relative that I would gladly be bald for or do anything to bring that person back. You have it easy ffs.
 
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This is the kind of hair that’s falling out now with even the slightest touch from my forelock and hairline. This is .75 inch most are about .5. Looks like thinning/tapered roots.

I could have stopped this and I failed. I just bought a ton of CB that will probably never make it to the US or will be fake. I’m desperate. Want to die really, this is so f*****g defeating. My hairline was still solid in June. My hair was black now it’s all gone even after jumping back on Propecia. WTF.
This is such a joke.. to be in your 40s and have that kind of hair? Get off this forum loser and go live your life. You are so fking lucky.
 

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I bought a ton of CB a while back from Alibaba and didn’t use it that long because I had another Telogen Effluvium and horrible shed while on it. I don’t know if it’s fake or my Telogen Effluvium was a result from being on oral finasteride even though I was off of it for a while or whatever. Let me know if you want it free of charge but chill out. You don’t know how bad things can get. My hair was pretty good before starting finasteride and then it all went to hell and I lost so much hair that never recovered and it is diffused much worst then I lost a close relative that I would gladly be bald for or do anything to bring that person back. You have it easy ffs.
Sorry to hear about your loss. I know things are far more important. Just the sheer uncertainty and hopelessness that comes after the already risky treatments fail is hard to manage. Did you get -any better when you stopped Finasteride? These dermatologists keep saying Telogen Effluvium when I know there is miniaturization, false hope, wasted effort. Iron ZiC was the only positive in three years but only lasted two months. I really just want 15 minutes an hour without having a hair in my mouth/shoulder/keyboard/food... 3 years of this driving me insane
 

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Yeah i got better..im over the intense Telogen Effluvium..shedding burning itching and i had 3 Telogen Effluvium and really was detrimental to my density. Btw i never had this prior to finasteride only on it and off it. I am still on finasteride but topically...things has improved but still working to get back density and Telogen Effluvium seem to no longer come back. Im on fluridil, min, finasteride, retinol topical once a day. No more taking hair loss drugs orally.
 

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Yeah i got better..im over the intense Telogen Effluvium..shedding burning itching and i had 3 Telogen Effluvium and really was detrimental to my density. Btw i never had this prior to finasteride only on it and off it. I am still on finasteride but topically...things has improved but still working to get back density and Telogen Effluvium seem to no longer come back. Im on fluridil, min, finasteride, retinol topical once a day. No more taking hair loss drugs orally.

How long did it take for you to recover from Telogen Effluvium? I am suffering Telogen Effluvium from letrozole i stopped in march and i still haven't recovered yet.
 

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Sorry to hear about your loss. I know things are far more important. Just the sheer uncertainty and hopelessness that comes after the already risky treatments fail is hard to manage. Did you get -any better when you stopped Finasteride? These dermatologists keep saying Telogen Effluvium when I know there is miniaturization, false hope, wasted effort. Iron ZiC was the only positive in three years but only lasted two months. I really just want 15 minutes an hour without having a hair in my mouth/shoulder/keyboard/food... 3 years of this driving me insane
At what point will you accept it? I have been fighting for over 15 years and my hair continues to lose density even with all my treatments. I am still here. No suicide attempts. How are you going to cope if you continue to lose in the next 12 more years? You keep spending money on all these doctors and you still don't get it. Genes can turn on balding at any time in your life as long as you have the balding gene. 40 years old was your magic number. People like Ronald Reagan who don't have the balding gene don't go bald. You did not get so lucky.
 

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Yeah i got better..im over the intense Telogen Effluvium..shedding burning itching and i had 3 Telogen Effluvium and really was detrimental to my density. Btw i never had this prior to finasteride only on it and off it. I am still on finasteride but topically...things has improved but still working to get back density and Telogen Effluvium seem to no longer come back. Im on fluridil, min, finasteride, retinol topical once a day. No more taking hair loss drugs orally.
Manny that sounds like a decent approach. I have only gotten worse on oral Propecia and not sure it’s worth the risk anymore. All in on topical seems like the most sustainable and practical option.
 

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You're a joke and everyone that thinks you're balding is a joke. People need to stop feeding into your bullshif and stop trying to advise you.
@Calikid dude you post the same three pictures that show the same lack of change with some random dots to make yourself feel better. At 43 I am healthier stronger and more successful than you’ll ever be. This is one probably I can’t solve and I’m not going to give up. If venting in this twisted *** forum keeps the sh*t out of my real life then whatever.

I really do give a f*** and empathize with everyone that ended up here for whatever reason. If I can help in anyway I will.

This could be a place of support and coaching but f*** it’s the internet why expect anything less than trolls. I have been rationale, I have been upset. In three years I went from NO hairloss and the best hair on the f*****g planet to a diffuse mess with a constant shed that has taken me from running Ironmans to fearing getting my hair wet.

I live with regret because I was told by 13 hair doctors that it wasn’t male pattern baldness when it was. Treatments only have made things worse. I don’t want any miracles just to stabilize or slow it the f*** down.

Yeah I’ll eventually come to terms give up but not yet. Not when this is a puzzle that can be solved.
 

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This is the kind of hair that’s falling out now with even the slightest touch from my forelock and hairline. This is .75 inch most are about .5. Looks like thinning/tapered roots.

I could have stopped this and I failed. I just bought a ton of CB that will probably never make it to the US or will be fake. I’m desperate. Want to die really, this is so f*****g defeating. My hairline was still solid in June. My hair was black now it’s all gone even after jumping back on Propecia. WTF.

Just read a great majority of this, gotta say you probs know your body better than any of us so I believe you when you say it seems bad but your hair looks great for someone your age. To the untrained eye nobody would even notice you were losing hair!! (Stop stressing)
 
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