Follica Microneedling Protocol Patent Disclosed

John Difool

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D2 because I can afford it but I started a year ago with Dr Pen. Folks demonstrated results with a $10 cheap pen or even rollers.i would focus on making sure it's done regularly vs which device you need to get. A beautiful Steinway piano is another piece of furniture if you don't practice your scales everyday.
 

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D2 because I can afford it but I started a year ago with Dr Pen. Folks demonstrated results with a $10 cheap pen or even rollers.i would focus on making sure it's done regularly vs which device you need to get. A beautiful Steinway piano is another piece of furniture if you don't practice your scales everyday.
Was the Dr Pen working? I recently switched from the D2 to the A7 after not getting any results (I was only doing 5 minute sessions though).
 

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Something I just realized when reading experience reports of both successful dermarollers/microneedlers and of massage proponents:
Most people who reported success on either of these mechanic manipulation-based regimens reported that they covered pretty big areas, sometimes even the whole scalp.

Maybe only covering affected areas (plus, according to the Follica protocol, 2 cm into adjacent non-affected areas) is not enough and the whole scalp should be covered by either massage or needling?

Reasons why covering the whole scalp might be beneficial:
- more growth factors released
- higher chance for a "quorum sensing cascade" (yep, pulling this one out of my a**)
- more blood flow because more repair work needs to be done
- creation/healing of more capillaries. This might actually the most important point. If you have a look at the blood supply network of the scalp, it's actually a pretty thin network with low blood pressure. If upstream blood supply (coming in from below, from the heart) is weak, downstream blood and nutrient supply (towards the top of the head) will also be. If, however, we encourage angiogenesis all over the scalp, getting more blood and nutrients to hair might be easier.

All of this is of course speculation. But there must be a reason why people who needled/massaged bigger areas (even non-affected ones) were more successful.
 

fran15

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Been reading through the thread. Can someone clarify this for me?

I want to go with the Dr. Pen A7 as it seems this will significantly reduce the time I need to invest per treatment.
I'm to use the 12 pin.
I'm to use a depth probably of 0.75mm (presumably it has this option)
I'm to use the fastest setting.
I'm to do it every two weeks.

At what rate do I want to move the A7 at this setting speed to achieve the goal target?
Thanks.
I think that's all correct, except where did you get that you should use the fastest setting?
 

Ralph Wiggum

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The protocol says "Needling head oscillation frequency: 120 Hz" - can anyone confirm if the Dr. Pen A6 is the correct frequency?
 

HairlossManiac

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The protocol says "Needling head oscillation frequency: 120 Hz" - can anyone confirm if the Dr. Pen A6 is the correct frequency?

I wish someone would write a detailed post about how to operate the A7 or M8 then we all would have hopped on it already. I just don't know how to go on about it. At what speed do I operate it? For how long do I run it over my scalp?
 

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120 Hz = 120 oscillations per second = 7,200 RPM. Set your pen to 7,200 rpm, and take 5 minutes to go over your entire scalp. It won't take long to get the feel of how fast you need to move to achieve even coverage in 5 minutes. There's no need to be more precise than that.
 

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So I should use 1.0 mm every 10-14 days instead of 1.5 mm every 7 days? Sounds good because it was very painful to use 1.5 mm. Anyone tried it out yet and had success?
 

pegasus2

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Bacteria only takes minutes to grow on a needle. Disinfect before and after every use.
 

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To clarify, the goal is to as far as possible, make 1600 distinct holes per cm squared, not simply plodding the dermapen into the same holes over and over again right?
 

iCloud

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a biotechnology company developing a regenerative platform designed to treat androgenetic alopecia, epithelial aging and other related conditions
They also mention other conditions than androgenetic alopecia.
I hope the Phase 3 trials will start soon.
 
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