Follica Annual Reports And Accounts April 2017

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Do you know that for instance in Japan, fractional laser therapy + growth factors or microneedling + growth factors is sold by physicians. For instance http://www.harg.org/, even against exorbitant prices for hair growth?

Yet people go in for the therapy? They could do it themselves.

Etc. So you tell me why do people pay for this?

Yes, I think it could well be a marketing thing which Follica's people are counting on exploiting and especially if they receive FDA approval and labelling rights. minoxidil market is max'd out and in need of rejuvenating. minoxidil proven to work to varying degrees and patent expired some time ago, and so Follica's plan is exploit that in addition to Dhurat's study. I think it could be a simple matter of garnering brand loyalty in the beginning and trialling ever more promising candidate drugs in the near to mid term(one to three years).
 

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Great post, Xaser94. I think youre right, Rox is a renowned pioneer in the field of laser tech, and I think there really is something to dermabrasion contributing to creation of new HF. Four times better than minoxidil alone? Whoever is able to claim this new benchmark for efficacy, and with FDA-approved labelling, will surely make money. And with new compounds trialled down the road, it surely has to be a good business plan with topical jakinibs and seti in the skunkworks.

Agreed! That is my same mindset, I don't think it matters what compound is used, but I do think he's found a way to use wounding, and make it an effective treatment providing consistent results that nobody could copy in the community derma rolling trial.
 

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Agreed! That is my same mindset, I don't think it matters what compound is used, but I do think he's found a way to use wounding, and make it an effective treatment providing consistent results that nobody could copy in the community derma rolling trial.

and as others have suggested, such would have to be the case or else spending 10+ years trialing it and sinking shitloads of money into it would be a waste.
 

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I actually missed this. So mid year 2017 is June. The Indian study was 3 months if im correct. If they expect to start the pivotal trial sometime in the second half of 2017 the pilot optimization study must only be about 3-5 months. Anything more and they may not be able to start the pivotal trial in 2017 at all. Maybe the trial results they will post soon are those of the pilot optimization study? Just some thoughts. I still think they will post older trial data as well.
 

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It would be in there best interest to post the data assuming it dovetails on their claims- not for fundraising but awareness and marketing. They'll probably do a sizeae push to a few outlets with the data if it's good. Man I hope it's good. A late 2017 tech approval plus commercial use in 2018 is hopeful but would be nice af
 

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To be fair, I dont think alot of ppl would dermaroll and use minoxidil on their own and have success. I think the fact that many forum members have tried to do it and still failed can attest to why Follica may think the general populous wont have success with minoxidil and dermarolling on their own. After this new article about Dr.Rox, and his innovations with lasers, im thinking maybe the key is in the specific dermabrasion technique..

I agree with you on this.
Dr Rox definitely bumped it up in my opinion maybe because i have had various laser treatments done or seen results in others but i am suddenly a bit more on edge of seat excited.
 

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What are the chances cots is not permitted to advertise or launch his product until seti is at a certain point in their own hairloss trial?
 

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What are the chances cots is not permitted to advertise or launch his product until seti is at a certain point in their own hairloss trial?

Zero, I'd say
 

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Is it prudent to say that Follica commercialisation is just a matter of time now? 2018 possible with the current process? First half or second half? The wounding neogenesis theory is very legit in my opinion.
 

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Is it prudent to say that Follica commercialisation is just a matter of time now? 2018 possible with the current process? First half or second half? The wounding neogenesis theory is very legit in my opinion.

I just wish we can get more information. More questions answered. I think if we had that even if it was not until 2019 release we would collectively take a breadth.
 

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4 times more effective than current treatments. What does this actually mean in percentage (i know know that many of you ask yourself based on what??) but generally speaking I think we talk about 30-35 % efficacy?
 

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4 times more effective than current treatments. What does this actually mean in percentage (i know know that many of you ask yourself based on what??) but generally speaking I think we talk about 30-35 % efficacy?

First I wanna know if the gains can be compounded with repeated passes. That is much, much more important.
 

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First I wanna know if the gains can be compounded with repeated passes. That is much, much more important.

Thats a good questions. Considering they said this will be used by hair specialists/surgeons they will basically do whatever you'll pay for, whether its good for you or not and if it works or not.

I haven't heard or read anything about there being any responders/non-responders considering its based on healing capabilities- so how young and healthy you are- so that makes me feel really good......unless they have said something in which case damn....
 

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Thats a good questions. Considering they said this will be used by hair specialists/surgeons they will basically do whatever you'll pay for, whether its good for you or not and if it works or not.

I haven't heard or read anything about there being any responders/non-responders considering its based on healing capabilities- so how young and healthy you are- so that makes me feel really good......unless they have said something in which case damn....

Yes.

Say somebody gives you a goose, and the next day it lays a golden egg. Your first question won't be "How many ounces & karats is that egg's gold?" Your first question will be "Can this goose keep laying more golden eggs repeatedly?!?"
 
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Yes.

Say somebody gives you a goose, and the next day it lays a golden egg. Your first question won't be "How many ounces & karats is that egg's gold?" Your first question will be "Can this goose keep laying more golden eggs repeatedly?!?"

and if it can create new hair follicles repeatedly (after the healing process of the first treatment, then this means a full head of hair or the CURE!
 

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All of this is fine and dandy except there is no way that Follica is going to grow hair beyond what can already be grown. People have been trying to grow hair for thousands of years and they've made very little progress. You guys should face it that science will not cure hair loss in your lifetime.

Dead hair is dead. The idea of getting hair to come back to life is like getting a corpse to rise up from its' coffin and come back to life. It is not going to happen. After people have tried to regrow lost hair for thousands of years it's unrealistic, insane even, for you guys to think that it will be possible in your lifetimes to regrow hair.
 

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Zero, I'd say

It doesn't matter because none of the treatments will work. It's not possible. They've been trying to cure hair loss for thousands of years and they can't do it. It just can't be done. It's very unrealistic to believe that a hair loss cure is coming anytime soon. Dead hairs can not come back to life anymore than a corpse in a coffin can rise up and start walking. It's crazy to even think that it might be possible to regrow a full head of lost hair. It may happen 100 years from now but it won't happen in our lifetimes.
 

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Dead hair is dead. The idea of getting hair to come back to life is like getting a corpse to rise up from its' coffin and come back to life. It is not going to happen. After people have tried to regrow lost hair for thousands of years it's unrealistic, insane even, for you guys to think that it will be possible in your lifetimes to regrow hair.

I thought this was neogenesis not reviving dead hair but creating a new follicle from a wound?
 

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and if it can create new hair follicles repeatedly (after the healing process of the first treatment, then this means a full head of hair or the CURE!

The companies and researchers just say that it could work because they want to attract investors. It won't work. It can't work. Only a fool would believe there's a real chance of regrowing dead hair in the next few years. A dead hair is dead. Dead is dead. Of course you can't make a dead thing come back to life with today's technology. Maybe they will be able to do it 100 years from now but they won't be able to do it in your lifetime. They've been trying to regrow dead hair for thousands and years but it just can't be done.
 
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