Hey guys, took the plunge and ordered my first system. It's been around a month and been having some issues I was hoping to get some help/advice with.
System: Complete Swiss Lace with light density
Attachment: Walkers Front Lace (blue tape) around the sides and back and ghost bond platinum at the front
Style: Exposed Front Hairline (The system looks AMAZING with the hairline exposed therefore I want to try and maintain that look. I know it will take more work but just need a solution that sustainable.)
So I REALLY like the tape. It just works. It holds perfectly (for me) and doesn't give me any issues. I've also tried walkers ultra-hold (yellow whitish one) which works well as well. I would like to keep the system on for two weeks at a time but happy to re-do the front as often as necessary (within reason).
So the issue I am having is with the front and the glue. The walkers glue wasn't right for me but Ghost Bond Platinum seems to work better. The first re-install I thought it best to do at a salon so did but the second one did myself.
Here are the issues: (the back half is on perfectly at this stage with tape and only the front left to contend with)
1) After reading A LOT about walkers sport scalp protector, I got hold of some and used it at the salon but once the front went down it formed a white layer on the lace. The stylist managed to get out what she could but was a still visible. She said due to the nature of the residue on the lace it def wasn't the glue therefore could only be the scalp protector. I was wondering has anyone else experienced this issue and if so what is the solution?
2) After that nightmare with the sport I went back to the normal scalp protector when I did the re-install myself. When applying the glue I put VERY thin layers and put 3 layers. I used a hair dryer and waited for each layer to turn transparent. After the final layer, I started cleaning up the mess I made while the glue was drying which took around 5 mins and then I applied a hair dryer to the glue for around 1 min.
(One of the issues I've previously had with the front (doing touch-ups) was creases so I thought a good way of countering that would be to use positioning spray and then just press down firmly. This would ensure nowhere got stuck and could develop creases.)
Therefore just before putting down the front I added generous amounts of positioning spray and dropped the front and pushed down with a towel. I should add I pushed down the front quite hard with a towel at this stage. Once I removed the towel the glue had seeped through the lace and into the hair. Was a f'ing nightmare to say the least. Also all along the front edge was like this glue residue build-up. I thought, let me see how it cures tomorrow and was a mess and so took the system off again. I am now waiting for some walkers rapid release to come to soak the front which is baked in glue before trying again.
My proposed solution to all this:
1) I am not sure about the scalp protector so would appreciate any help on that front. (I have the dab on and the brush one of these)
2) I REALLY want to try and minimise the use of glue but understand it's the best for an exposed hairline.
After reading comments from others I have got hold of some no shine contour strips and some lace front thin contour strips. My next plan of action is to tape the front (using no-shine) but leave 1cm ish from the front and apply just glue there. Read about this solution on here I think. The key here is the tape will hold the front in place and therefore should be no tension on the part that's glued down. My understanding is the glue is JUST used to hide the front hairline and not hold anything in this case. My biggest doubt is I still don't understand why did the glue seep all the way through the last time I did this? Did I press too hard? Did I not wait long enough? Was it the positioning spray?
The lace front thin strips I have I understand can be used on their own in the front (and will try this in the future) but I'm not sure how feasible it is to line them up to the EXACT edge of the system every time? Also how would a touch-up work for this solution?
If you have read this far then I'm impressed & any help is GREATLY appreciated!
THANK YOU!!
System: Complete Swiss Lace with light density
Attachment: Walkers Front Lace (blue tape) around the sides and back and ghost bond platinum at the front
Style: Exposed Front Hairline (The system looks AMAZING with the hairline exposed therefore I want to try and maintain that look. I know it will take more work but just need a solution that sustainable.)
So I REALLY like the tape. It just works. It holds perfectly (for me) and doesn't give me any issues. I've also tried walkers ultra-hold (yellow whitish one) which works well as well. I would like to keep the system on for two weeks at a time but happy to re-do the front as often as necessary (within reason).
So the issue I am having is with the front and the glue. The walkers glue wasn't right for me but Ghost Bond Platinum seems to work better. The first re-install I thought it best to do at a salon so did but the second one did myself.
Here are the issues: (the back half is on perfectly at this stage with tape and only the front left to contend with)
1) After reading A LOT about walkers sport scalp protector, I got hold of some and used it at the salon but once the front went down it formed a white layer on the lace. The stylist managed to get out what she could but was a still visible. She said due to the nature of the residue on the lace it def wasn't the glue therefore could only be the scalp protector. I was wondering has anyone else experienced this issue and if so what is the solution?
2) After that nightmare with the sport I went back to the normal scalp protector when I did the re-install myself. When applying the glue I put VERY thin layers and put 3 layers. I used a hair dryer and waited for each layer to turn transparent. After the final layer, I started cleaning up the mess I made while the glue was drying which took around 5 mins and then I applied a hair dryer to the glue for around 1 min.
(One of the issues I've previously had with the front (doing touch-ups) was creases so I thought a good way of countering that would be to use positioning spray and then just press down firmly. This would ensure nowhere got stuck and could develop creases.)
Therefore just before putting down the front I added generous amounts of positioning spray and dropped the front and pushed down with a towel. I should add I pushed down the front quite hard with a towel at this stage. Once I removed the towel the glue had seeped through the lace and into the hair. Was a f'ing nightmare to say the least. Also all along the front edge was like this glue residue build-up. I thought, let me see how it cures tomorrow and was a mess and so took the system off again. I am now waiting for some walkers rapid release to come to soak the front which is baked in glue before trying again.
My proposed solution to all this:
1) I am not sure about the scalp protector so would appreciate any help on that front. (I have the dab on and the brush one of these)
2) I REALLY want to try and minimise the use of glue but understand it's the best for an exposed hairline.
After reading comments from others I have got hold of some no shine contour strips and some lace front thin contour strips. My next plan of action is to tape the front (using no-shine) but leave 1cm ish from the front and apply just glue there. Read about this solution on here I think. The key here is the tape will hold the front in place and therefore should be no tension on the part that's glued down. My understanding is the glue is JUST used to hide the front hairline and not hold anything in this case. My biggest doubt is I still don't understand why did the glue seep all the way through the last time I did this? Did I press too hard? Did I not wait long enough? Was it the positioning spray?
The lace front thin strips I have I understand can be used on their own in the front (and will try this in the future) but I'm not sure how feasible it is to line them up to the EXACT edge of the system every time? Also how would a touch-up work for this solution?
If you have read this far then I'm impressed & any help is GREATLY appreciated!
THANK YOU!!