Female Relatives Only Are Dating/marrying Nw1 Or Better. Anyone Else?

[Kambrira159]

Depends what the woman is looking for, chad or simp. If it's a one night sure she wants a strong fit guy with hair, height, face etc who is going to c*m all over her face. If she's looking for a simp after she hits the wall in her 30s then it's all about money and status, you could be a fat balding f*** or a 5 feet 4 midget boy and she'll have to settle for it since her clock is ticking and she's already been banged out by 300 chads between 16 to 30.

 

[tomJ]

You should look towards average looking successful bald guys as inspiration. I personally admire Bill Burr A LOT. He’s not an attractive bald guy but his dominance still captures the attention of everyone. A lot of girls are very attracted to him based off his not give a f***/alpha attitude.

People on here will say that’s all bullshit, but if you step out the box, you’ll see a lot of relatively unattractive men crush it with women. The vibe you give off is extremely important.

There was this 3/10 bald 28 year old I worked with. He had an elongated pale head like a f*****g alien man. It was bad, and I actually really felt for him. Later, I found out he was f*****g the hottest girl at work at one point. Now he’s dating another coworker that’s a cute 7.5/10.

Curious if this pale guy is a douche bag or no?

 

[tomJ]

I have a feeling location has something to do with chances of success as well. I think in certain locations women put more emphasis on things like hair. E.g. NY. LA.

 

[whatintheworld]

This aint right one bit lol.

I mean it is all subjective but imo height, personality and fitness is above hair, maybe not to a guy but to a women def. Most women dont date guys shorter than them. Most women get turned off by complete sh*t personality. Also, being bald and fit is attractive. Having thick hair but fat asf is so gross, ew.

I didn't write being obese as an alternative to being fit...this simply means looking normal. Not too skinny, not too fat. But certainly not ripped or at some professional athlete level of fitness.

As long as you are at the height of the woman you are with it is ok, therefor almost all heights are ok, as there are many shorter women than there are shorter men. So your pool of available candidates does not shrink that much. So really I was referring to, if you are like 5'8" or above, hell even 5'7", you should be fine, you don't need to be 6'4", all the other factors make a much bigger difference.

 

[whatintheworld]

while it's true social status and money are more important to women than how you look (unless you're really one ugly mf) that doesn't mean they are really into you or attracted to you, so end of day those 2 are not even part of the list because they don't cause real physical attraction to you, only to your money/social status.

and face and hair usually go together, I see hair as part of the face, it kinda comes as 1 unit of measurement.

Wrong, they are genuinely attracted to you if you are a celebrity or famous. If life was a tinder swiping game, sure only physical appearance would matter. But we are talking about the real world, not some pixels on a screen.

But I agree, face and hair usually do go together so that's why I grouped them in the same tier. If you assigned percentages things would get more complicated, and a good face/hair can definitely make up for status/money. But if you have a lot of status/money, then looking like a model becomes completely irrelevant, as long as you don't look like Shrek.

 

[WaccWaccWacc]

I didn't write being obese as an alternative to being fit...this simply means looking normal. Not too skinny, not too fat. But certainly not ripped or at some professional athlete level of fitness.

As long as you are at the height of the woman you are with it is ok, therefor almost all heights are ok, as there are many shorter women than there are shorter men. So your pool of available candidates does not shrink that much. So really I was referring to, if you are like 5'8" or above, hell even 5'7", you should be fine, you don't need to be 6'4", all the other factors make a much bigger difference.

sooooo, you didnt write the extremes for height and fitness but u wrote the extremes for hair aka Norwood 5/6/7? Like I said, my rankings still stand. Taking extremes aside, I am certain a women would pick a 6’1, NW3, toned-fit person over a 5’6, NW1, overweight(not obese) person. Thats not even including personality which you had at the very bottom of your list.

I’m not a wizard or anything but I whole-heartily believe you if gave women the same list a majority of them would pick personality, intelligence, height and fitness over hair.

Statistically hair isn't forever (need health-adverse interventions which do not always work). Height and intelligence are forever without intervention. Fitness and personality are as well if you choose to (via healthy interventions).

You can care to disagree and that’s fine but again its all opinion.

Edit: on a side note... intelligence last, really? You get used to looking at a bald person in a month even if they were a NW1 before. I can’t stand in the same room with a dumbass for 1hr, let alone my whole entire life.

 

[WaccWaccWacc]

I have a feeling location has something to do with chances of success as well. I think in certain locations women put more emphasis on things like hair. E.g. NY. LA.

most definitely. Take a look at developing countries. They know what’s valuable and whats not, intelligence and personality would be 1,2 in countries like that. Rather, in the U.S(LA, NY, Chicago) its a bunch of socially constructed people who want to look like brad pitt rather than have the mind of Einstein. Pathetic really.

 

[Ausgebombt]

I have a feeling location has something to do with chances of success as well. I think in certain locations women put more emphasis on things like hair. E.g. NY. LA.

I've lived in both cities NY and LA and I can tell you NY is about 5X easier to find attractive women worth dating. Hair or no hair.

LA is really challenging because it suffers partially from the same issues as Man Jose: The tech/engineering/startup culture here tends to draw a lot more men then women so the gender balance for young professionals is quite skewed towards males. As a consequence my dating pool is almost exclusively college girls and women chasing careers in Hollywood... not ideal imo. In general LA isn't bad, but NY or DC is probably the best place you could be as a man.

 

[Ausgebombt]

Depends what the woman is looking for, chad or simp. If it's a one night sure she wants a strong fit guy with hair, height, face etc who is going to c*m all over her face. If she's looking for a simp after she hits the wall in her 30s then it's all about money and status, you could be a fat balding f*** or a 5 feet 4 midget boy and she'll have to settle for it since her clock is ticking and she's already been banged out by 300 chads between 16 to 30.

Lol that isn't really true irl but I do know what you mean. Women's standards go down the toilet if they are still single past 30.

 

[INT]

Lol that isn't really true irl but I do know what you mean. Women's standards go down the toilet if they are still single past 30.

Depends on the kind of woman. I have quite some attractive, career-driven and highly educated female friends who kind of show the opposite.

 

[Haironnu]

sooooo, you didnt write the extremes for height and fitness but u wrote the extremes for hair aka Norwood 5/6/7? Like I said, my rankings still stand. Taking extremes aside, I am certain a women would pick a 6’1, NW3, toned-fit person over a 5’6, NW1, overweight(not obese) person. Thats not even including personality which you had at the very bottom of your list.

I’m not a wizard or anything but I whole-heartily believe you if gave women the same list a majority of them would pick personality, intelligence, height and fitness over hair.

Statistically hair isn't forever (need health-adverse interventions which do not always work). Height and intelligence are forever without intervention. Fitness and personality are as well if you choose to (via healthy interventions).

You can care to disagree and that’s fine but again its all opinion.

Edit: on a side note... intelligence last, really? You get used to looking at a bald person in a month even if they were a NW1 before. I can’t stand in the same room with a dumbass for 1hr, let alone my whole entire life.

but you know most people are not completely stupid and have normal intelligence, looks beat intelligence every single day unless you're really dumb, and even then a dumb but good looking person will beat any average looking but intelligent guy when it comes to flings and one night stands.

nobody cares about how smart you are if they are just trying to get laid, they only care about how you look, and even when it comes to dating all you have to be is not stupid. that's about it. looks will always matter more than intelligence.

 

[WaccWaccWacc]

but you know most people are not completely stupid and have normal intelligence, looks beat intelligence every single day unless you're really dumb, and even then a dumb but good looking person will beat any average looking but intelligent guy when it comes to flings and one night stands.

nobody cares about how smart you are if they are just trying to get laid, they only care about how you look, and even when it comes to dating all you have to be is not stupid. that's about it. looks will always matter more than intelligence.

For f*****g purposes I agree, most definitely. Nobody cares how much you know about anything if they’re just going to f*** you 1-5 times and thats their only purpose.

For long-term relationship, you’re either brain dead or have never been in one to state that looks beats intelligence always. Seriously, thats not even an opinion thing. Lol. You have to live with this person for 30+ years. Decisions are based on intelligence not looks. If you have to deal with your partner constantly f*****g up with everything they do because they “didnt know” or “didnt think” you will be very very furious with your life and decision to marry that person. Whats the worst that can happen if you marry an ugly person? Whatever it is I can come up with something 10x worse for marrying a dumb person.

edit: you state that “most people are not stupid and have normal intelligence”... you really think most people are ugly and do not have normal attractiveness? Lmao. The thing wrong with this forum is that everyone thinks they will look absolutely hideous and their life is over when their bald. Ask men who have decided to shave their heads most of them are very happy with their choice.

 

[whatintheworld]

sooooo, you didnt write the extremes for height and fitness but u wrote the extremes for hair aka Norwood 5/6/7? Like I said, my rankings still stand. Taking extremes aside, I am certain a women would pick a 6’1, NW3, toned-fit person over a 5’6, NW1, overweight(not obese) person. Thats not even including personality which you had at the very bottom of your list.

I’m not a wizard or anything but I whole-heartily believe you if gave women the same list a majority of them would pick personality, intelligence, height and fitness over hair.

Statistically hair isn't forever (need health-adverse interventions which do not always work). Height and intelligence are forever without intervention. Fitness and personality are as well if you choose to (via healthy interventions).

You can care to disagree and that’s fine but again its all opinion.

Edit: on a side note... intelligence last, really? You get used to looking at a bald person in a month even if they were a NW1 before. I can’t stand in the same room with a dumbass for 1hr, let alone my whole entire life.

Norwood 3 with good density is not even bad, I would love to have that. It's only when you get to Norwood 4+ that you even have a problem.

I don't understand what your purpose of pontificating here is though? If you don't think hair loss is that bad why are you on treatments, why are you on this website? Further what is your Norwood level, I'm guessing you are a Norwood 2?

 

[karatekid]

The amount of generalizations in this thread is in retard level

 

[Haironnu]

For f*****g purposes I agree, most definitely. Nobody cares how much you know about anything if they’re just going to f*** you 1-5 times and thats their only purpose.

For long-term relationship, you’re either brain dead or have never been in one to state that looks beats intelligence always. Seriously, thats not even an opinion thing. Lol. You have to live with this person for 30+ years. Decisions are based on intelligence not looks. If you have to deal with your partner constantly f*****g up with everything they do because they “didnt know” or “didnt think” you will be very very furious with your life and decision to marry that person. Whats the worst that can happen if you marry an ugly person? Whatever it is I can come up with something 10x worse for marrying a dumb person.

edit: you state that “most people are not stupid and have normal intelligence”... you really think most people are ugly and do not have normal attractiveness? Lmao. The thing wrong with this forum is that everyone thinks they will look absolutely hideous and their life is over when their bald. Ask men who have decided to shave their heads most of them are very happy with their choice.

Look around you and look in social media, generally, good looking people date good looking people. people date other people that are around their level of looks for the most part, sure, maybe they won't date a good looking person who is a complete moron, but they will simply keep searching for someone who is good looking enough to them AND have a normal level of intelligence, but the first thing on the list they will keep looking for is looks.

also you're as well bringing examples of completely stupid people "if you have to deal with a partner that constantly f*****g up with everything they do because they "didn't know" or "didn't think", how many people you know that are like that? I don't know many.
so as I said unless you're a complete moron or a walking disaster, intelligence does not beat looks.

 

[WaccWaccWacc]

Norwood 3 with good density is not even bad, I would love to have that. It's only when you get to Norwood 4+ that you even have a problem.

I don't understand what your purpose of pontificating here is though? If you don't think hair loss is that bad why are you on treatments, why are you on this website? Further what is your Norwood level, I'm guessing you are a Norwood 2?

I never said it wasnt bad, I just said its not as bad as the other things you listed. If you all of a sudden shrunk 6 inches you will be mortified. If you all of a sudden lost the intelligence you have you will be again mortified.

Again everything is relative in societal terms. A NW3 at the age of 21 in college is quite frustrating as your stuck trying to fix your hair while your friends/roommates are picking jokes at you etc.

To me a NW5/6/7 is all quite literally the same. Sure you have more “hair” at the lower end of that spectrum but those hairs are thin/whispy and serve no styling purposes. To each his own but if I progress to a NW4+ its coming off.

To answer your questions though:

1) I am on treatments in hopes of to keep my hair in my 20’s (currently 21) also known as my prime years. I want to be as youthful as possible while I am in my youthful years, makes sense to me.

2) I am on this website originally to get opinions on my state. I continue to stay on this website (although I wish I didn't have to) to cope with losing a decent amount of my hair so early on. If I decided to just shave it all off I wouldn't feel the need to be on this site as that would be my coping mechanism.

3) I believe I am a NW3. Although many “senior members” have said I am not quite there yet, they have noted that I am closer to a NW3 than 2.

Of course you wish you were a NW3 with good density. Similar I (the NW3 guy) wish I was a complete NW2. Similarity the NW2 guy wishes he was a NW1.

I am not trying to bash anyone’s opinion in the form of “f*** you youre dumb”. I am simply trying to put in perspective hair loss compared to other given things that people take for granted when similarly to people who have hair that take that for granted.

 

[WaccWaccWacc]

Look around you and look in social media, generally, good looking people date good looking people. people date other people that are around their level of looks for the most part, sure, maybe they won't date a good looking person who is a complete moron, but they will simply keep searching for someone who is good looking enough to them AND have a normal level of intelligence, but the first thing on the list they will keep looking for is looks.

also you're as well bringing examples of completely stupid people "if you have to deal with a partner that constantly f*****g up with everything they do because they "didn't know" or "didn't think", how many people you know that are like that? I don't know many.
so as I said unless you're a complete moron or a walking disaster, intelligence does not beat looks.

Disagree. But could care less. Go ahead and value your appearance more than your intelligence, see where it gets you.

edit: Out of the pool of people without a college education, a whole lot f*** up everyday with their decisions.

 

[Haironnu]

Disagree. But could care less. Go ahead and value your appearance more than your intelligence, see where it gets you.

edit: Out of the pool of people without a college education, a whole lot f*** up everyday with their decisions.

considering how the average joe can barely make a living or close the month with their diploma/ college degree, but good looking people can easily make banks of money from opening an instagram page and accumulate followers that worship them solely on their looks, then yes I'll allow myself to believe looks is way more important than intelligence.

 

[Haironnu]

I never said it wasnt bad, I just said its not as bad as the other things you listed. If you all of a sudden shrunk 6 inches you will be mortified. If you all of a sudden lost the intelligence you have you will be again mortified.

honestly I don't think you'd be mortified if you lost intelligence, simply because you'll be less aware, less perceptive and won't care as much, because you're less intelligent lol.

I can't prove this but from what I've seen in my life stupid people are way happier than smarter people, the less you know, the less you're aware of things, and the less you're perceptive of things, the happier you are, simple brain, simple thoughts, simple problems. simple life.

 

[WaccWaccWacc]

considering how the average joe can barely make a living or close the month with their diploma/ college degree, but good looking people can easily make banks of money from opening an instagram page and accumulate followers that worship them solely on their looks, then yes I'll allow myself to believe looks is way more important than intelligence.

lmao. Just lmao. Lmk how their insta is doing in 10yrs. Lmk what purpose they serve when their older. Have you seen the acting community? Have you seen the pool of insta models? Do you know how many actors make absolutely sh*t? Can you name me 20 people on insta over the age of 30 making bank off their appearance? Take a look at linkedin to find out how many people are making bank from a college diploma. You’re so lost, it’s not funny.