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Mr. Slap Head said:
Both contribute. There’s definitely individual variation. Just like you have androgen receptors you have estrogen receptors, which the expression depends on genetics. That’s why some people respond very well to androgen deprivation treatments like CPA. Yet others do not always respond well to it. Same thing can be said for estrogens, however, estrogen in itself does combat androgens too. So in a sense of course estrogen is most likely to cause an improvement because it has a multi factorial effect. Whereas CPA is only addressing androgens. CPA can be detrimental for some people because reducing testosterone also reduces estrogen. It really does just depend on the person.
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but in that case i think that without estrogen and low androgens stimulation and hair growth with needling and minoxidil would be amazing since androgens to not cause damage anymore
 
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sg2000 said:
but in that case i think that without estrogen and low androgens stimulation and hair growth with needling and minoxidil would be amazing since androgens to not cause damage anymore
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It might work for someone's hair, like Andy and some others, however when both testosterone and estrogen are depleted, you will feel like crap.
 
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It’s just surface level appearance. Drier hair is more poofy and voluminous. Your hair was probably just being weighed down by sebum. Physics. Doesn’t actually affect the health of the hair. Accutane has a very commonly reported side effect of hair loss.

Hair bulbs do not contain sebum. The sebaceous gland is attached to hair follicles, though.

Again, if sebum was the cause there would be massive reports of accutane or even an AA like bicalutamide being touted as “the cure”. But it’s just not the case.
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You’re an idiot dht and sebum are 100% correlated that’s why accutane even inhibits dht. So if dht and sebum are correlated 100% overproduction of sebum can lead to hairloss. This isn’t the case for everyone but definitely possible.
 
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You’re an idiot dht and sebum are 100% correlated that’s why accutane even inhibits dht. So if dht and sebum are correlated 100% overproduction of sebum can lead to hairloss. This isn’t the case for everyone but definitely possible.
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You clearly have no scientific experience or education whatsoever. This isn’t even about correlation. This is about causation and effect. That’s what we’ve been discussing this whole time. You are a myopic imbecile out to prove some bunk theory. The proof is in the pudding that’s why you continue to bald you don’t understand anything about hair loss or science at all for that matter, you’re probably an out of shape nerd
 
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You clearly have no scientific experience or education whatsoever. This isn’t even about correlation. This is about causation and effect. That’s what we’ve been discussing this whole time. You are a myopic imbecile out to prove some bunk theory. The proof is in the pudding that’s why you continue to bald you don’t understand anything about hair loss or science at all for that matter, you’re probably an out of shape nerd
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so the people on this forum that took accutane and stopped their hairloss and then shedded once getting on dutasteride and couldn’t stop hairloss doesn’t correlate? And then woman on Reddit that solved PCOS which is elevated androgens solved hairloss with accutane. Accutane is a strong *** drug that can reduce dht. And so far I’ve taken estrogen, finasteride, and bica and accutane is the only drug I’ve seen reduced hairloss only two weeks in on 20mg.
 
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so the people on this forum that took accutane and stopped their hairloss and then shedded once getting on dutasteride and couldn’t stop hairloss doesn’t correlate? And then woman on Reddit that solved PCOS which is elevated androgens solved hairloss with accutane. Accutane is a strong *** drug that can reduce dht. And so far I’ve taken estrogen, finasteride, and bica and accutane is the only drug I’ve seen reduced hairloss only two weeks in on 20mg.
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bro accutane can cause temporary hair loss.If youre concerned about sebum just get your T in female range levels and youll notice a reduction after 3-4 months or add bicalutamide
 
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Mr. Slap Head said:
You clearly have no scientific experience or education whatsoever. This isn’t even about correlation. This is about causation and effect. That’s what we’ve been discussing this whole time. You are a myopic imbecile out to prove some bunk theory. The proof is in the pudding that’s why you continue to bald you don’t understand anything about hair loss or science at all for that matter, you’re probably an out of shape nerd
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And really every hairloss treatment is a theory because there is no cure. Finasteride is supposed to help but makes hair worse in some people including me. So now it’s just a game of putting sh*t in your mouth or injecting sh*t and hoping it gets better.
 
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bro accutane can cause temporary hair loss.If youre concerned about sebum just get your T in female range levels and youll notice a reduction after 3-4 months or add bicalutamide
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I’m different I tried estrogen for 2 months and it didn’t do sh*t even at high doses. Bica does do anythint for hair I’ve yet to see anyone recover hairloss from bica.
 
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The same person who says accutane is the cure says estrogen doesn't work lmao
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I never said it was the cure but I had levels of 350 on estrogen with t at 31 and nothing worked same with the Brazilian guy on here who took it for 8 months and his hair was still oily as hell. Everyone’s hairloss is different there’s no true cures so you just have to f*** around with how your body responds to each till you find one that helps slow down enough to get hair transplants over the years.
 
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sg2000 said:
do you think that in order to keep hair most important is to have t and dht low instead of high e levels?

Ive talker to anxiousandy and he took cupro for 5 years without problems hope im honna be lucky like him
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sg2000 said:
oh really bro? For me it has reduced sebum and oil cause i dont have to wash daily.However skin oil reduction is a common side of hrt
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Washing daily is good. Why wouldnt you wanna wash daily?? Bed hair sucks and gets abit greasy. U sound nasty bro.
 
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