What normal man would want to be chemically castrated voluntarily? No one. It's not ideal for most of us, but it's the only option we have. You can not deny for a second that your 'solution' to hair loss will not work for most of us here. We don't want hair systems, and in all honesty they look weird. I would feel even worse about myself knowing that I look like the clown emoji beneath the lace-front.
Exploring The Hormonal Route. Hair=life.
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What normal man would want to be chemically castrated voluntarily? No one. It's not ideal for most of us, but it's the only option we have. You can not deny for a second that your 'solution' to hair loss will not work for most of us here. We don't want hair systems, and in all honesty they look weird. I would feel even worse about myself knowing that I look like the clown emoji beneath the lace-front.
People NEED to be aware that long-term use of estrogen WILL cause irreversible infertility. That's something which needs to constantly be mentioned, because I don't think younger people realise that. If the benefits of using these drugs outweighs the potential negatives, then those who decide to use such a regimen should continue it. It's similar to transgender women; they have to decide if the benefits outweigh the potential negatives. Personally, the benefits outweigh the potential negatives by a mile (especially in terms of skin; I had suffered with horrible acne for 1/2 a decade and a difference is finally happening).
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what are you all climbing here? here come those who want to really get their hair back and for this they need a fight against androgens!
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To me these things never feel “real” though and I would always be self conscious that people would know because if the texture, density or positioning is off by even slightly then it would be obvious to everyone. That’s not to say they’re not a valid option for many people but the psychology of it would always feel like I was faking an appearance.
Also if retrograde alocopia kicks in then it would ruin the entire look when the top looks fine and the sides are patchy as hell.
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Lack of libido can be fixed with cialis.
Reasons why I don't like his hair system //
- His hairline is harsh; it looks like Ken hair.
Reasons why I wouldn't get a hair system //
- It isn't supportive of particular hair styles, and it appears to only support a quiff. This is most likely because it's stuck at one length.
- It doesn't grow, and you are stuck with that length of hair for a considerable amount of time.
- It would make me feel even more self-conscious to know that I am still balding, but I am just hiding the issue. It means you have given up on battling hair loss, and I do not give up. Nonetheless, another reason why it would make me feel more self-conscious is because other people might be able to recognise its a hair system, and then they will realise I have a hair system because I am balding.
- It doesn't clear acne or other androgen-dependant issues. I remember a particular person who told me to get a hair system, and said 'acne can be cleared by drinking water and a good skincare routine' which is a crock of sh*t. I am probably the most educated person on this website when it comes to skincare, yet I still battled with acne because it's an androgen-dependant issue.
- You can still get prostate cancer with a hair system, and I will still die earlier than a woman with a hair system.
- It is costly, and I don't have that sort of money.
- I would not want to go to a hair salon (especially ones which have windows) where they shave the top part of my hair. It would just make me feel severely depressed, and I would hang myself at home!
- I would NEVER hear the end of it with my family telling me I am wearing a 'toupee which will fly away in the wind and hit someone in the face'.
And last of all...
Another thing is: I don't worry about side effects. Worrying about potential side effects is just bait for placebo-effects to occur, which is most likely what finasteride users do.
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You can't wear this if you want to be a cool guy, lol. System is like admitting that you're full of complexes.
It seems clear to me that you have never been wearing a hair system. I did and the reality is far from YT videos. The results from saloons are as bad as min+finasteride for NW7s. DYI is a little better but you never now what you are getting even if your order is perfect. Many people including me start extreme regimens because how bad hair systems still are. Also read @shookwun story. It is easy to promote something you have never been doing. And it is not about psychology.
How is 'It is costly, and I don't have that sort of money' a weird reason? In fact, that's one of the biggest factors. I can barely afford the medications I am purchasing, in which I managed to cut down the cost to £35/month.
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1 nM finasteride inhibited DHT synthesis in DP by 86% and 1 nM progesterone by 75%. Estrogens were less able to inhibit the synthesis of DHT in DP (for example, 100 nM 17alf-E: 20%; 100 nM 17beta-E: 60%).
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/11358723/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/11358723/
I think a hair system is a nice idea in theory but the reality of it is far from easy. They require a lot of work and maintenance.
Not including the repurcussions if you get found out. Yes, women wear makeup etc to hide flaws but for a man this just isn’t accepted by the modern world. It’s a sad fact but this world is a double standard and full of narrow minded people.
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Not including the repurcussions if you get found out. Yes, women wear makeup etc to hide flaws but for a man this just isn’t accepted by the modern world. It’s a sad fact but this world is a double standard and full of narrow minded people.
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The story is spread over many threads but I think this is the main one. https://www.hairlosstalk.com/interact/threads/my-experience-with-a-wig.98327/
Currently my regimen is: 5% RU, 5% minoxidil, 0.2% sandalore, 2.5 mm dermapen, topical estrogen 0.005%, massage and 2% nizoral cream. No sides, no results. I tolerate it well so I plan to jump on more hardcore things.
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Yeah finasteride/duta are the first line of defense, but nothing else worked for me and i gave it a good few years before i came here. Anyone new to hair loss shouldn't come here straight away i agree.
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The point is we want our real hair, and dont want to be depressed anymore <-- and buying a hair system will not resolve depression and anxiety stemming from hair loss
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Yeah the depression is bad, to the point where i do not leave my house, for anything but food and work, and i avoid people like the plague and i spend my free time sleeping, thats how bad the depression is and with finasteride/dutasteride i didn't have any side effects or results, really nothing to indicate that it was doing anything except giving me short term memory loss over years of use due to not having any 5-ar in my brain, so i felt comfortable starting these drugs i am on now, i still don't have any side effects, but my body is changing slightly, and i am more hungry, before i would only eat once a day or not at all because i had no drive to eat, and i actually have emotions now im not a psychopath anymore which is both wonderful and destructive -> (because my heart is broken) but overall i feel like a better human being after being on HRT and i never imagined i would do this before because I'm not trans however i am fine no matter what gender i look like, it's all for the betterment of my life so far so good.
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I am not a fan of Trump but read it over the Reddit and gonna try it for myself once I start spironolactone again. However, I am off the spironolactone, and my libido is super high again.
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now 100mg every evening sublingually on 15th - 19th day of month
-> 5 days a month
i had it every day from 1.1.19 to 30.6.19 .. but i had problems with a high level of cortisol and aldosterone
i had no problems with hairloss ..