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bridg and if you consume meat products? unless it can not replenish b12?
You need to consume more than usual while taking cypro cause cypro depletes b12.. But taking a supplement is safest to make sure you get enough.

and I don't believe meat in general is healthy (except for a little fish) because it contains possible carcinogens; Heterocyclic amines and polyaromatic hydrocarbons, as well as Advanced Glycation End Products (which cause age related disease) and has a high methionione ratio (methionione restriction in animals extends lifespan)
 

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Rue Saint-Florentin, il y a un palais et un égout.

Le palais, qui est d’une noble, riche et morne architecture, s’est appelé longtemps : Hôtel de l’infuntado ; aujourd’hui on lit sur le fronton de sa porte principale : Hôtel Talleyrand. Pendant les quarante années qu’il a habité cette rue, l’hôte dernier de ce palais n’a peut-être jamais laissé tomber son regard sur cet égout.

C’était un personnage étrange, redouté et considérable ; il s’appelait Charles-Maurice de Périgord ; il était noble comme Machiavel, prêtre comme Gondi, défroqué comme Fouché, spirituel comme Voltaire et boiteux comme le diable. On pourrait dire que tout en lui boitait comme lui ; la noblesse, qu’il avait faite servante de la république, la prêtrise, qu’il avait traînée au Champ de Mars, puis jetée au ruisseau, le mariage, qu’il avait rompu par vingt scandales et par une séparation volontaire, l’esprit, qu’il déshonorait par la bassesse. Cet homme avait pourtant sa grandeur.

Les splendeurs des deux régimes se confondaient en lui ; il était prince du vieux royaume de France, et prince de l’empire français.

Pendant trente ans, du fond de son palais, du fond de sa pensée, il avait à peu près mené l’Europe. Il s’était laissé tutoyer par la révolution, et lui avait souri, ironiquement, il est vrai ; mais elle ne s’en était pas aperçue. Il avait approché, connu, observé, pénétré, remué, retourné, approfondi, raillé, fécondé tous les hommes de son temps, toutes les idées de son siècle, et il y avait eu dans sa vie des minutes où, tenant en sa main les quatre ou cinq fils formidables qui faisaient mouvoir l’univers civilisé, il avait pour pantin Napoléon Ier, empereur des français, roi d’Italie, protecteur de la confédération du Rhin, médiateur de la confédération suisse. Voilà à quoi jouait cet homme.

Après la révolution de Juillet, la vieille race, dont il était grand chambellan, étant tombée, il s’était retrouvé debout sur un pied et avait dit au peuple de 1830, assis, bras nus, sur un tas de pavés : Fais-moi ton ambassadeur.

Il avait reçu la dernière confession de Mirabeau et la première confidence de Thiers. Il disait lui-même qu’il était un grand poëte et qu’il avait fait une trilogie en trois dynasties : acte Ier, l’empire de Buonaparte ; acte II, la maison de Bourbon ; acte III, la maison d’Orléans.

Il avait fait tout cela dans son palais, et, dans ce palais, comme une araignée dans sa toile, il avait successivement attiré et pris héros, penseurs, grands hommes, conquérants, rois, princes, empereurs, Bonaparte, Sieyès, Mmede Staël, Chateaubriand, Benjamin Constant, Alexandre de Russie, Guillaume de Prusse, François d’Autriche, Louis XVIII, Louis-Philippe, toutes les mouches dorées et rayonnantes qui bourdonnent dans l’histoire de ces quarante dernières années. Tout cet étincelant essaim, fasciné par l’œil profond de cet homme, avait successivement passé sous cette porte sombre qui porte écrit sur son architrave : Hôtel Talleyrand.

Eh bien, avant-hier 17 mars 1838, cet homme est mort. Des médecins sont venus, et ont embaumé le cadavre. Pour cela, à la manière des Égyptiens, ils ont retiré les entrailles du ventre et le cerveau du crâne. La chose faite, après avoir transformé le prince de Talleyrand en momie et cloué cette momie dans une bière tapissée de satin blanc, ils se sont retirés, laissant sur une table la cervelle, cette cervelle qui avait pensé tant de choses, inspiré tant d’hommes, construit tant d’édifices, conduit deux révolutions, trompé vingt rois, contenu le monde.

Les médecins partis, un valet est entré, il a vu ce qu’ils avaient laissé : Tiens ! ils ont oublié cela. Qu’en faire ? Il s’est souvenu qu’il y avait un égout dans la rue, il y est allé, et a jeté ce cerveau dans cet égout.

Finis rerum.

Victor Hugo

Hahaha !
 

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If one is positive about not being able to make children - what would be the major side effects of a regimen like this, other than gyno? (I guess surgery can fix this).
 

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[QUOTE = "Мистер Грей, должность: 1797388, участник: 141303"] Вы имеете в виду 0,30 мг? Это у вас не работает? [/ QUOTE]
If one is positive about not being able to make children - what would be the major side effects of a regimen like this, other than gyno? (I guess surgery can fix this).
we do not think about it! There is only hair!
 

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If one is positive about not being able to make children - what would be the major side effects of a regimen like this, other than gyno? (I guess surgery can fix this).

Be careful with the surgeon you choose for gyno ... I was not very cautious and now I have 2 big craters in the place of my glands ... I regret it everyday.
It can shrink your dick by a lot (no return back), destroy your sexdrive, decrease your muscular mass, make your cry like a female :p
 

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If one is positive about not being able to make children - what would be the major side effects of a regimen like this, other than gyno? (I guess surgery can fix this).

Honestly, the main side effects is infertility and gynecomastia. When it comes to the other potential side effects, they’re up in the air and you don’t know what you will get.

And, feminisation is definite. You will notice that your face will soften, and your cheeks will become more full. Your skin texture will completely change, and will soften and will appear significantly smoother.
 

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Be careful with the surgeon you choose for gyno ... I was not very cautious and now I have 2 big craters in the place of my glands ... I regret it everyday.
It can shrink your dick by a lot (no return back), destroy your sexdrive, decrease your muscular mass, make your cry like a female :p
I guess it’s not for me then.. But when i reach norwood 5 in like 3 years age 26, i will probably return to this thread anyway.
 

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I guess it’s not for me then.. But when i reach norwood 5 in like 3 years age 26, i will probably return to this thread anyway.

Yeah ... If your hairloss make you desperate you will do desperate things. I hope for you it won't happen.
Good luck.
 

Baldingdane

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Honestly, the main side effects is infertility and gynecomastia. When it comes to the other potential side effects, they’re up in the air and you don’t know what you will get.

And, feminisation is definite. You will notice that your face will soften, and your cheeks will become more full. Your skin texture will completely change, and will soften and will appear significantly smoother.
The feminisation part isn’t something i would consider a side-effect (other than gyno). What about body-hair? Will some of it go away?
 

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most of them used large dosages, big problems! We need to start with possible low dosages, because it is a cumulative effect. There are many cowards here! Besides the Bridge. They sit and die from hopelessness, and what prevents to take small doses and monitor this. I use Cypro 2.50 and estrodiol at a dose of 0.5. All sublingually.
 

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That’s another plus. If it wasn’t for some of those terrible side effects, i would def. do a similar regime. Probably not even capable of getting it in Denmark where i live.
Move to Russia, here without a prescription!
 

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That’s another plus. If it wasn’t for some of those terrible side effects, i would def. do a similar regime. Probably not even capable of getting it in Denmark where i live.

In my opinion, you won’t experience penile shrinkage. You just have to find a regimen that is right for you. In my opinion, you might prefer bicalutamide over other anti-androgens.
 

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That’s another plus. If it wasn’t for some of those terrible side effects, i would def. do a similar regime. Probably not even capable of getting it in Denmark where i live.
gyno and infertility is the most extreme changes.
you're dick shouldn't shrink if you use it often. possibly erection issues but depends on person (v**** and cialis is an option if it happens) , fat will redistribute, chest hair will fall out, you'll feel emotional, I still have a strong libido but its a different type of libido than what testosterone gives.
 

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gyno and infertility is the most extreme changes.
you're dick shouldn't shrink if you use it often. possibly erection issues but depends on person (v**** and cialis is an option if it happens) , fat will redistribute, chest hair will fall out, you'll feel emotional, I still have a strong libido but its a different type of libido than what testosterone gives.

Is the infertility permanent? Or can you 100% recover (from all sides as well)?
 

bridgeburn

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Is the infertility permanent? Or can you 100% recover (from all sides as well)?
depends how long you take estrogen for and there are different individual tolerances for that.. It is risky

No, I would not 100% recover. This stuff changes you. Even If I drop everything it is likely my testosterone production will only partially come back. And the gyno is permanent unless it is surgically removed. I will have giant nipples forever.
 
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