Dr. Tsuji Kyocera, Riken Research, Organ Technologies Form Regenerative Hair Research Team

[hellouser]

Yeah even if they would start in 2020 it would go fast. Maybe 2-3 years later or something. I have never heard better news than this.

If I would be a hair transplant doctor or be a company in the current pipeline I would be sh*tting in my pants LOL.

Spencer Kobren better start putting away money for retirement. His hair transplant advertising schtick isn't going to last him much longer...

 

[GotHair?]

Yes! YESSSS!
Get hype boys. ALL aboard the HYPE TRAIN!!! CHOOO CHOOOO...

 

[Torin]

I have a question. Will the cloned hairs (let's call them that for simplicity's sake), inherit the damage characteristics of the donor hair follicles?

For example, if a 50-year-old were to have this procedure performed, would the cloned hairs be to all extents and purposes like a 50-year-old guy's hairs, with any existing thinness/damage/ageing inherited by the new hair? Or would the new hairs be damage free like an embryonic hair or at least a more youthful hair, therefore giving the new hairs a better appearance and longer "shelf life"?

Also, if you guys would be kind enough to take a look at my question on the previous page regarding the possibility of replenishing non mbp areas as well using this method and give your quick thoughts about it. Not the possibility of it as it should work, but whether the specialists will tailor offer it to those who need it. Thanks!

 

[hellouser]

I have a question. Will the cloned hairs (let's call them that for simplicity's sake), inherit the damage characteristics of the donor hair follicles?

For example, if a 50-year-old were to have this procedure performed, would the cloned hairs be to all extents and purposes like a 50-year-old guy's hairs, with any existing thinness/damage/ageing inherited by the new hair? Or would the new hairs be damage free like an embryonic hair or at least a more youthful hair, therefore giving the new hairs a better appearance and longer "shelf life"?

Also, if you guys would be kind enough to take a look at my question on the previous page regarding the possibility of replenishing non mbp areas as well using this method and give your quick thoughts about it. Not the possibility of it as it should work, but whether the specialists will tailor offer it to those who need it. Thanks!

IMO, not likely as they're just copies of male pattern baldness resistant follicles. But even if.. who cares? Just go and get more hair implanted and you're set.

 

[Torin]

IMO, not likely as they're just copies of male pattern baldness resistant follicles. But even if.. who cares? Just go and get more hair implanted and you're set.

I just wonder how it would pan out for diffuse thinners and older guys who have naturally become very thin and diffuse and whose donor hair may not be the best.

Also the likely costs involved with this treatment (not to mention travel to Japan and accommodation costs) would make repeat treatments near impossible for the vast majority of people. It's only one sole company (Riken) doing this out of Japan.

If you were going to get this done, you'd damn sure want to make sure it's done right the first time.

 

[Tracksterderm]

Excellent news!

One question: why would the cost be sky high? Isn't this about culturing the cells and then reinjecting?
Or is it transplanting fully grown cloned hairs? In either case this will probably be a massproduction model, so the cost they put on it will probably be within reason for most people as they would want to reach a big market to maximize profits.

 

[pegasus2]

This is amazing! It is going to be here super than anyone expected. It takes a hair transplant off the table for me. Let's hope for 2020 rather than 2023. That blogger might just end up being right with the name of his website after all.

 

[Torin]

How the flip will they mass produce something that only Riken would be capable of doing? Something so specialised and delicate...

My goodness. If you didn't sign up on the first day as it is announced, you could be having to wait years. By the end of the first week of an official announcement, a waiting list of 20 years could already well exist.

How can they make this complex thing as easily and readily available as McD0nald's drive-thru? They will have to to keep up with the demand.

 

[pegasus2]

Excellent news!

One question: why would the cost be sky high? Isn't this about culturing the cells and then reinjecting?
Or is it transplanting fully grown cloned hairs? In either case this will probably be a massproduction model, so the cost they put on it will probably be within reason for most people as they would want to reach a big market to maximize profits.

I wouldn't expect it to cost more than replicel, but being a full on cure rather than treatment it will have more demand. It may be expensive when it comes out, but the price should drop rapidly like Lasik did.

 

[whatevr]

Call off the cyproterone acetate bath, this one's looking good!

 

[Tracksterderm]

How the flip will they mass produce something that only Riken would be capable of doing? Something so specialised and delicate...

My goodness. If you didn't sign up on the first day as it is announced, you could be having to wait years. By the end of the first week of an official announcement, a waiting list of 20 years could already well exist.

How can they make this complex thing as easily and readily available as McD0nald's drive-thru? They will have to to keep up with the demand.

I would think they will have processes in place to do the replication, it's not like Tsuji will be sitting there copying cell by cell.

And for the transplant itself it sounds like it is going to be something automated bwith machines created by Kyocera.

But still, the demand will be huge and that's a reason for a high price to start with. They will off course also face logistics challenges. If this works...

 

[whatevr]

One question. Since this is basically still a hair transplant... how will the density be? Can a hair transplant achieve natural density even by this method? I heard something about transplants not being able to pack hair as densely as it naturally would be. Is that the case?

 

[Breaking Bald]

Can't get excited by this by 2023 if all goes to plan I will be bald and past all hope...how are you guys planning to hold on till your hair for that long!?

 

[Bigbone]

Is this basically a cure? Is it possible for a NW7 to get a NW1? If everything goes as planed.

 

[Pray The Bald Away]

One question. Since this is basically still a hair transplant... how will the density be? Can a hair transplant achieve natural density even by this method? I heard something about transplants not being able to pack hair as densely as it naturally would be. Is that the case?

This is cell injection. Tsuji stated that he could control hair density.

 

[Pray The Bald Away]

Is this basically a cure? Is it possible for a NW7 to get a NW1? If everything goes as planed.

Yes and yes.

 

[Mugry]

Great news. Sucks for those of us with weak donor hair.

 

[Pray The Bald Away]

If they only could multiply the cells and be able to inject them with microneedles rather than implanting fully developed follicles (like Replicel was planning on). But it is promising that they are committing resources to this so that others can jump in and costs can come down.

That's exactly what they're doing...

 

[Pray The Bald Away]

Great news. Sucks for those of us with weak donor hair.

Why? You'll still be able to get a full head of thick hair.

 

[Mugry]

Why? You'll still be able to get a full head of thick hair.

Wouldn't transplanted donor hair turn to sh*t eventually since its susceptible to dht? or whatever causes unpatterned alopecia.