Hi guys,
while there is a shitshow going on in the main thread, I thought I'd post the results of the survey I conducted on the people trying dermarolling so far.
I will just post their unedited responses so as not to risk altering any intended meanings.
Thanks to all the people who participated!
@ButWhyTho
Current date: 01/22/2019
Nickname: @ButWhyTho
Age: 30 yrs old
Hairloss started at: 24 yrs
Current Norwood: NW1?
Balding pattern: Both
Affected areas: [Vertex and crown most affected with diffuse thinning all around
Treatment history:
Needling until: ["still needling"]
Not needling anymore because: [Area and frequency has decreased due to increased length, thickness, and curliness of hair]
Needling frequency (average): [daily]
Needling, total number of sessions: 7 per week
Needling device: [Derma roller, Titanium, Unbranded]
Needling depth/needle length: [1.5 mm]
Needling intensity: / redness / ]
Needled areas: [Vertex, temples and crown]
Needling side effects: [redness for a couple hours, days, some flakiness subsides after shower]
Using minoxidil: [yes]
On minoxidil since: [2014? However I apply MorrF right after rolling]
Using other treatments at the same time: [1 mg propecia, min foam, keto shampoo 2x weekly; also biotin 5000mcg, multi vitamin and fish oil]
Witnessing regrowth: [yes]
Regrowth since: [November 2018. I started seeing regrowth after about a month. I would use hair fibers for trouble spots. After derma rolling, it was no longer necessary.
Pattern of regrowth: [increase growth in frontal area and temples]
Description of and satisfaction with regrowth: I am extremely satisfied. Around June of last year I was terribly depressed about my hair loss. I was considering switching to duta since finasteride seemed to have reached it's limit. Instead I tried topical finasteride and derma rolling. It's hard to quantify my results. The best way to put it is anecdotally. I cannot see any thinning parts. I no longer have to use hair fibers. Overall my hair is denser and thicker.
Photos showing own progress or lack thereof: [OPTIONAL, but preferred: please add photos, preferrably with timestamp directly on photo]
@keepit
Male 39 balding diffuse since 19 years.only tried minoxidil before without success..just doing Dermapen since 21 November ,doing it hard for 15mins with lots of blood spots,no side effects apart from flaking of scalp..hair is looking thicker already seems to be improving in reverse as it thinned latest...will have pics in a couple of months if it continues to improve..redness last 2 days needle depth 2 mm+.. nizoral shampoo daily.. very satisfied so far still early yet
@ToLGuy
Current date: 08/01/2019
Nickname: @ToLGuy
Age: 30
Hairloss started at: 26
Current Norwood: Not sure cause my hairline is not very affected yet, perhaps Norwood 2
Balding pattern: diffuse on crown, slightly receding on hairline
Affected areas: mainly crown, slightly temples and hairline
Treatment history:
Needling until: still needling
Needling frequency (average): weekly
Needling, total number of sessions: 11
Needling device: Dermapen MyM
Needling depth/needle length: 2mm
Needling intensity: drawing few drops of blood
Needled areas: all the upper scalp, even in the areas in which thinning hasn't started. The only areas that I'm. Not touching are those that are unnafected by male pattern baldness (sides and back)
Needling side effects: flaking 2 days after needling sessions. Usually last about 4 days.
Using minoxidil: yes
On minoxidil since: 03/2016
Using other treatments at the same time: finasteride and ketoconazole shampoo since 03/2016
Witnessing regrowth: not sure, won't take pictures until the 3 month mark to avoid obsession
Regrowth since: not assessed yet
Pattern of regrowth: not assessed yet
Description of and satisfaction with regrowth: not assessed yet
Photos showing own progress or lack thereof: not taken yet. Will post them in February
@ZenHead
-Age 24
-started at age 22
-current norwood 3
-diffuse / receding
-affected areas: mostly hairline and crown, but diffuse everywhere.
-I'm not even going to attempt to list all of my treatments. finasteride, minoxidil, seti, and RU. some gave me sides, others didnt seem to work.
-needling since october 2018
-still needling
-weekly
- about 10 sessions in
-Dr. pen device
- few drops of blood
- needling entire scalp
-no sides except mild flaking
- minxodil since october 2018 (i tried minoxidil for a year with no results)
-yes, witnessing regrowth
-started noticing slight regrowth about 2 weeks in
- vellus and slight terminal around hairline, not much on the crown so far
- satisfaction: too early to say.
-I'll share photos when i feel my results are satisfactory
@Somebody /Alex
Current date: 10.01.19
Nickname: @Somebody Alex
Age: 35
Hairloss started at: 19 (or late 18)
Current Norwood: 0.5 Norwood
Balding pattern: [diffuse, receding or both] Diffuse
Affected areas: Hairline/crown/vertex/temples
Treatment history:
Needling until: Still needling
Not needling anymore because: [please specify reason in case you are no longer needling]
Needling frequency (average): Daily
Needling, total number of sessions: 5 min daily
Needling device: Roller
Needling depth/needle length: 1.5 mm
Needling intensity: Redness
Needled areas: Hairline/crown/vertex/temples
Needling side effects: Flakes, redness, dryness
Using minoxidil: Yes
On minoxidil since: Since April 2013
Using other treatments at the same time: Keto, finasteride, dermaroller, biotin
Witnessing regrowth: Yes
Regrowth since: November 2013
Pattern of regrowth: Full recovery
Description of and satisfaction with regrowth: 5
Photos showing own progress or lack thereof: I add as file
@Bill_Russo
There's really no data for now. This is what I got. Will get back atcha in a year.
Current date: 08/01/2019
Nickname: @Bill_Russo
Age: 25
Hairloss started at: 18
Current Norwood: 3 vertex-ish
Balding pattern: Receding
Affected areas: Frontal and crown
Treatment history:
Needling until: ["still needling"]
Not needling anymore because: [please specify reason in case you are no longer needling]
Needling frequency (average): Bimonthly
Needling, total number of sessions: 1
Needling device: Pen, I'm not really sure... TB/HP I think
https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B06XC5VG7R/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Needling depth/needle length: 2 mm
Needling intensity: Drawing few drops of blood
Needled areas: Whole scalp
Needling side effects: Redness for 2 days for now
Using minoxidil: No
On minoxidil since: [specify date, so people can figure out if you started with rolling, before, or added only later]
Using other treatments at the same time: Not sure if massages count?
Witnessing regrowth: Oh, how wonderful would it be to witness regrowth after 1 session
Regrowth since: [please specify as month/year or from start of needling, in weeks and/or months]
Pattern of regrowth: [please describe, i.e. only vellus or also terminal and in which areas]
Description of and satisfaction with regrowth: [please describe. you may assign points on a scale from -5 to +5 or use words]
Photos showing own progress or lack thereof: [OPTIONAL, but preferred: please add photos, preferrably with timestamp directly on photo]
@benjt2
Current date: 27/01/2019
Nickname: @benjt2
Age: 29
Hairloss started at: 17
Current Norwood: NW3.9
Balding pattern: pure recession, no diffuse thinning, crown unaffected as of now but temples and front gone ("moonface" / "baby face")
Affected areas: temples and front
Treatment history:
Needling until: still needling
Needling frequency (average): weekly
Needling, total number of sessions: 12
Needling device: Dermapen TBHP
Needling depth/needle length: 1.75 mm
Needling intensity: drawing few drops of blood, sometimes a lot of blood
Needled areas: Hairline + 2 cm behind + 2 cm below
Needling side effects: redness for 24 to 72 hours after session, flaking.
Using minoxidil: yes
On minoxidil since: 2012
Using other treatments at the same time: added intensive scalp massages in the second half of January 2019
Witnessing regrowth: nothing at all as of now
Regrowth since: none yet
Pattern of regrowth: none yet
Description of and satisfaction with regrowth: not satisfied due to lack of any results
Photos showing own progress or lack thereof: -
@Drextez
My current regimen (2 MONTHS IN):
@74775446
Current date: 28/01/19
Nickname: 74775446 aka Numberguy
Age: 32
Hairloss started at: 27/28
Current Norwood: II
Balding pattern: Both
Affected areas: Temples, scalp
Treatment history:
Needling until: Still needling
Needling frequency (average): Weekly
Needling, total number of sessions: 30-ish
Needling device: Roller (unbranded, cheapest on Amazon UK), Pen (TBPHP)
Needling depth/needle length: 1.5mm - 2.0mm
Needling intensity: Reddness, few spots of blood
Needled areas: Temples and scalp (top of head)
Needling side effects: None. Flaking in the beginning.
Using minoxidil: Yes
On minoxidil since: March 2018 (same time I started rolling)
Using other treatments at the same time: No
Witnessing regrowth: Yes
Regrowth since: May 2918
Pattern of regrowth: Terminal on scalp, vellus ans a few terminal on temples
Description of and satisfaction with regrowth: +5. f*****g delighted and still find it hard to believe
Photos showing own progress or lack thereof:
@JJL58
Current date: 1 / 27 / 2019
Nickname: JJL58
Age: 26
Hairloss started at: 22
Current Norwood: III Vertex
Balding pattern: Both
Affected areas: Temple area / Crown / Vertex
Treatment history:
Needling until: [Still Needling]
Needling frequency (Once): [Weekly]
Needling, total number of sessions: 10
Needling device: [Roller: 192N-GROLLER15MM /
TMT Micro Needle Roller System]
Needling depth/needle length: [1.5MM]
Needling intensity: [Mildly aggressive / drawing blood. More similar to 2Young2Retire's regimen than Numbers Guy]
Needled areas: [Entire top of head / all thinning areas]
Needling side effects: [Redness / Soreness for 48 hours]
Using minoxidil: [Yes]
On minoxidil since: [Late November. Slightly before Dermarolling]
Using other treatments at the same time: [Yes, Dermarolling / Minoxidil / RegenePure DR. Minoxidil and Regenepure DR 24 hours after needling]
Witnessing regrowth: [YES]
Regrowth since: [2 weeks after needling]
Pattern of regrowth: [Vellus hairs all over balding areas. Hairline beginning to recover. Vertex near full recovery]
Description of and satisfaction with regrowth: [+3. Still a ways to go, but definite regrowth / thickness / progress. Undeniable.]
Photos showing own progress or lack thereof: [I will be adding pictures at the conclusion of my experiment (1 - 1.5 years). It's a marathon, not a sprint, and I don't want to obsess too much over regrowth too early, nor do I want others. With that said, I am documenting with pictures along the way. Rest assured. ]
@Me Vs DiffuseThinning
Current date: 28/01/2019
Nickname: Me vs DiffuseThinning
Age: 25
Hairloss started at: 17
Current Norwood: 2
Balding pattern: Diffuse and receding.
Affected areas: All of the Norwood 5 area
Treatment history:
Needling until: Still needling
Needling frequency (average): Weekly
Needling, total number of sessions: About 30
Needling device: Roller
Needling depth/needle length: 1.5mm mostly, rarely 2mm
Needling intensity: medium intensity, rarely high intensity
Needled areas: Norwood 5 area
Needling side effects: Flaking, throbbing sensation on scalp, burning
Using minoxidil: Yes
On minoxidil since: May 2018
Using other treatments at the same time: Big Three
Witnessing regrowth: Yes
Regrowth since: Second month
Pattern of regrowth: Vellus and terminal, but mostly thickness of existing hair
Description of and satisfaction with regrowth: Lots of growth in mid-scalp and front, but crown only starting to make progress in the 8th month.
Photos showing own progress or lack thereof: Had photos on here but took them because someone IRL found me, and then I had some privacy concerns.
@Kitedude
Current date: 29/01/2019
Nickname: Kitedude
Age:37
Hairloss started at: 25
Current Norwood: 2
Balding pattern: receding
Affected areas: temples/Norwood area
Treatment history:
Needling until: still needling"
Needling frequency: 1 time a week heavy Needling device: roller, ordinary one
Needling depth/needle length: 1.5mm
Needling intensity: redness, fair bit of blood
Needled areas: temples only
Needling side effects: redness for 2days, flaking after a week
Using minoxidil: no
On minoxidil since: not yet/ thinking about adding it
Using other treatments at the same time: massage
Witnessing regrowth: yes, did so in the past
Regrowth since: 2013
Pattern of regrowth: Vellus and terminal on the crown and temples
Description of and satisfaction with regrowth: very pleased
Photos showing own progress or lack thereof: -
Naked survey for others to fill out:
Current date: [for reference for the dates to be provided below and for survey updates in the future, please specify current date as dd/mm/yy]
Nickname:
Age:
Hairloss started at:
Current Norwood:
Balding pattern: [diffuse, receding or both]
Affected areas: [frontal hairline/crown/vertex/temples/[Norwood area]]
Treatment history:
Needling until: ["still needling"; otherwise specify date or month/year in case you stopped]
Not needling anymore because: [please specify reason in case you are no longer needling]
Needling frequency (average): [daily/weekly/biweekly etc.]
Needling, total number of sessions:
Needling device: [roller/stamp/pen and brand]
Needling depth/needle length: [specify mm]
Needling intensity: [no redness / mild redness / redness / drawing few drops of blood / drawing lots of blood]
Needled areas: [please specify]
Needling side effects: [please specify, e.g. redness for X days, flaking after Y days, etc.]
Using minoxidil: [yes/no]
On minoxidil since: [specify date, so people can figure out if you started with rolling, before, or added only later]
Using other treatments at the same time: [please specify]
Witnessing regrowth: [yes/no]
Regrowth since: [please specify as month/year or from start of needling, in weeks and/or months]
Pattern of regrowth: [please describe, i.e. only vellus or also terminal and in which areas]
Description of and satisfaction with regrowth: [please describe. you may assign points on a scale from -5 to +5 or use words]
Photos showing own progress or lack thereof: [OPTIONAL, but preferred: please add photos, preferrably with timestamp directly on photo]
Once again, thanks everyone! I will update this thread as I get more data! Members who want to fill it out themselves can post here as well. To keep all info in one place I will then copy-paste their data into this post.
PS:
The list of other people I contacted or who I know are or have been doing dermarolling:
@2young2retire
@MyThinningConfidence
@Dooz
@Longway886
@FCKW36
@cuprous
@Francky85
@sportsguy97
@Jk1
@kiwi666
@MinervaCGI
Especially the first two on this list are known to have been successful. Would be cool if they could also chip in!
while there is a shitshow going on in the main thread, I thought I'd post the results of the survey I conducted on the people trying dermarolling so far.
I will just post their unedited responses so as not to risk altering any intended meanings.
Thanks to all the people who participated!
@ButWhyTho
Current date: 01/22/2019
Nickname: @ButWhyTho
Age: 30 yrs old
Hairloss started at: 24 yrs
Current Norwood: NW1?
Balding pattern: Both
Affected areas: [Vertex and crown most affected with diffuse thinning all around
Treatment history:
- [treatment1] Minoxidil September/2014 until ongoing ( foam in the morning, liquid at night)
- [treatment2] Generic Propecia 1mg January 2015 ( ongoing min), added Keto shampoo
- [Treatment 3] Brand Propecia 1mg 2016 until ongoing. ( Continuing min, keto shampoo)
- [ Treatment 4] 3 PRP treatments (April, May, June). Laser added twice weekly in 2017. Continuing brand propecia, keto shampoo, and min
- [Treatment 5] Added MorrF (5% min and .1% finasteride combo) in August 2018. Continuing propecia, foam min in morning, and keto shampoo 2x weekly.
Needling until: ["still needling"]
Not needling anymore because: [Area and frequency has decreased due to increased length, thickness, and curliness of hair]
Needling frequency (average): [daily]
Needling, total number of sessions: 7 per week
Needling device: [Derma roller, Titanium, Unbranded]
Needling depth/needle length: [1.5 mm]
Needling intensity: / redness / ]
Needled areas: [Vertex, temples and crown]
Needling side effects: [redness for a couple hours, days, some flakiness subsides after shower]
Using minoxidil: [yes]
On minoxidil since: [2014? However I apply MorrF right after rolling]
Using other treatments at the same time: [1 mg propecia, min foam, keto shampoo 2x weekly; also biotin 5000mcg, multi vitamin and fish oil]
Witnessing regrowth: [yes]
Regrowth since: [November 2018. I started seeing regrowth after about a month. I would use hair fibers for trouble spots. After derma rolling, it was no longer necessary.
Pattern of regrowth: [increase growth in frontal area and temples]
Description of and satisfaction with regrowth: I am extremely satisfied. Around June of last year I was terribly depressed about my hair loss. I was considering switching to duta since finasteride seemed to have reached it's limit. Instead I tried topical finasteride and derma rolling. It's hard to quantify my results. The best way to put it is anecdotally. I cannot see any thinning parts. I no longer have to use hair fibers. Overall my hair is denser and thicker.
Photos showing own progress or lack thereof: [OPTIONAL, but preferred: please add photos, preferrably with timestamp directly on photo]
@keepit
Male 39 balding diffuse since 19 years.only tried minoxidil before without success..just doing Dermapen since 21 November ,doing it hard for 15mins with lots of blood spots,no side effects apart from flaking of scalp..hair is looking thicker already seems to be improving in reverse as it thinned latest...will have pics in a couple of months if it continues to improve..redness last 2 days needle depth 2 mm+.. nizoral shampoo daily.. very satisfied so far still early yet
@ToLGuy
Current date: 08/01/2019
Nickname: @ToLGuy
Age: 30
Hairloss started at: 26
Current Norwood: Not sure cause my hairline is not very affected yet, perhaps Norwood 2
Balding pattern: diffuse on crown, slightly receding on hairline
Affected areas: mainly crown, slightly temples and hairline
Treatment history:
- Finasteride 1mg every other day since 03/2016 until the present day (ongoing)
- Minoxidil 5% since 03/2016 until the present day (ongoing)
Needling until: still needling
Needling frequency (average): weekly
Needling, total number of sessions: 11
Needling device: Dermapen MyM
Needling depth/needle length: 2mm
Needling intensity: drawing few drops of blood
Needled areas: all the upper scalp, even in the areas in which thinning hasn't started. The only areas that I'm. Not touching are those that are unnafected by male pattern baldness (sides and back)
Needling side effects: flaking 2 days after needling sessions. Usually last about 4 days.
Using minoxidil: yes
On minoxidil since: 03/2016
Using other treatments at the same time: finasteride and ketoconazole shampoo since 03/2016
Witnessing regrowth: not sure, won't take pictures until the 3 month mark to avoid obsession
Regrowth since: not assessed yet
Pattern of regrowth: not assessed yet
Description of and satisfaction with regrowth: not assessed yet
Photos showing own progress or lack thereof: not taken yet. Will post them in February
@ZenHead
-Age 24
-started at age 22
-current norwood 3
-diffuse / receding
-affected areas: mostly hairline and crown, but diffuse everywhere.
-I'm not even going to attempt to list all of my treatments. finasteride, minoxidil, seti, and RU. some gave me sides, others didnt seem to work.
-needling since october 2018
-still needling
-weekly
- about 10 sessions in
-Dr. pen device
- few drops of blood
- needling entire scalp
-no sides except mild flaking
- minxodil since october 2018 (i tried minoxidil for a year with no results)
-yes, witnessing regrowth
-started noticing slight regrowth about 2 weeks in
- vellus and slight terminal around hairline, not much on the crown so far
- satisfaction: too early to say.
-I'll share photos when i feel my results are satisfactory
@Somebody /Alex
Current date: 10.01.19
Nickname: @Somebody Alex
Age: 35
Hairloss started at: 19 (or late 18)
Current Norwood: 0.5 Norwood
Balding pattern: [diffuse, receding or both] Diffuse
Affected areas: Hairline/crown/vertex/temples
Treatment history:
- Propecia from Oct 2008
- Minoxidil, Finasteride, Keto, dermaroller from April 2013
Needling until: Still needling
Not needling anymore because: [please specify reason in case you are no longer needling]
Needling frequency (average): Daily
Needling, total number of sessions: 5 min daily
Needling device: Roller
Needling depth/needle length: 1.5 mm
Needling intensity: Redness
Needled areas: Hairline/crown/vertex/temples
Needling side effects: Flakes, redness, dryness
Using minoxidil: Yes
On minoxidil since: Since April 2013
Using other treatments at the same time: Keto, finasteride, dermaroller, biotin
Witnessing regrowth: Yes
Regrowth since: November 2013
Pattern of regrowth: Full recovery
Description of and satisfaction with regrowth: 5
Photos showing own progress or lack thereof: I add as file
@Bill_Russo
There's really no data for now. This is what I got. Will get back atcha in a year.
Current date: 08/01/2019
Nickname: @Bill_Russo
Age: 25
Hairloss started at: 18
Current Norwood: 3 vertex-ish
Balding pattern: Receding
Affected areas: Frontal and crown
Treatment history:
- Needling since January/2019 until [??]
Needling until: ["still needling"]
Not needling anymore because: [please specify reason in case you are no longer needling]
Needling frequency (average): Bimonthly
Needling, total number of sessions: 1
Needling device: Pen, I'm not really sure... TB/HP I think
https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B06XC5VG7R/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Needling depth/needle length: 2 mm
Needling intensity: Drawing few drops of blood
Needled areas: Whole scalp
Needling side effects: Redness for 2 days for now
Using minoxidil: No
On minoxidil since: [specify date, so people can figure out if you started with rolling, before, or added only later]
Using other treatments at the same time: Not sure if massages count?
Witnessing regrowth: Oh, how wonderful would it be to witness regrowth after 1 session
Regrowth since: [please specify as month/year or from start of needling, in weeks and/or months]
Pattern of regrowth: [please describe, i.e. only vellus or also terminal and in which areas]
Description of and satisfaction with regrowth: [please describe. you may assign points on a scale from -5 to +5 or use words]
Photos showing own progress or lack thereof: [OPTIONAL, but preferred: please add photos, preferrably with timestamp directly on photo]
@benjt2
Current date: 27/01/2019
Nickname: @benjt2
Age: 29
Hairloss started at: 17
Current Norwood: NW3.9
Balding pattern: pure recession, no diffuse thinning, crown unaffected as of now but temples and front gone ("moonface" / "baby face")
Affected areas: temples and front
Treatment history:
- minoxidil 5% since age 23/24, first two or three years at 2 ml a day (and skin side effects), now 1 ml a day without skin side effects
- tried finasteride for 4 months in 2014/2015 but bad side sexual effects so I had to drop it
Needling until: still needling
Needling frequency (average): weekly
Needling, total number of sessions: 12
Needling device: Dermapen TBHP
Needling depth/needle length: 1.75 mm
Needling intensity: drawing few drops of blood, sometimes a lot of blood
Needled areas: Hairline + 2 cm behind + 2 cm below
Needling side effects: redness for 24 to 72 hours after session, flaking.
Using minoxidil: yes
On minoxidil since: 2012
Using other treatments at the same time: added intensive scalp massages in the second half of January 2019
Witnessing regrowth: nothing at all as of now
Regrowth since: none yet
Pattern of regrowth: none yet
Description of and satisfaction with regrowth: not satisfied due to lack of any results
Photos showing own progress or lack thereof: -
@Drextez
My current regimen (2 MONTHS IN):
- nw1 early diffiuse thinning
- derma rolling every 7-30 days. ---> 1.5mm titanium real needles
- 1-5 minutes 1-2 times a day scalp massages 3-5 times a week with an anti cellulite wooden brush,
- -----------> results after 2 months : better hair quality, scalp feels healthier, scalp more elastic, slight density gains. obviously the crown area is the most painful area when dermarolling because theres more fibrosis.. this regimen is aiming for the marathon this thing is a lifestyle.
@74775446
Current date: 28/01/19
Nickname: 74775446 aka Numberguy
Age: 32
Hairloss started at: 27/28
Current Norwood: II
Balding pattern: Both
Affected areas: Temples, scalp
Treatment history:
- Minoxidil since 06/14 until 06/16
Needling until: Still needling
Needling frequency (average): Weekly
Needling, total number of sessions: 30-ish
Needling device: Roller (unbranded, cheapest on Amazon UK), Pen (TBPHP)
Needling depth/needle length: 1.5mm - 2.0mm
Needling intensity: Reddness, few spots of blood
Needled areas: Temples and scalp (top of head)
Needling side effects: None. Flaking in the beginning.
Using minoxidil: Yes
On minoxidil since: March 2018 (same time I started rolling)
Using other treatments at the same time: No
Witnessing regrowth: Yes
Regrowth since: May 2918
Pattern of regrowth: Terminal on scalp, vellus ans a few terminal on temples
Description of and satisfaction with regrowth: +5. f*****g delighted and still find it hard to believe
Photos showing own progress or lack thereof:
@JJL58
Current date: 1 / 27 / 2019
Nickname: JJL58
Age: 26
Hairloss started at: 22
Current Norwood: III Vertex
Balding pattern: Both
Affected areas: Temple area / Crown / Vertex
Treatment history:
- [Minoxidil] since [November 2018 until [Present]
- [Dermarolling] since [December/2018] until [Present]
- [RegenePure DR] since [December/2018] until [Present]
Needling until: [Still Needling]
Needling frequency (Once): [Weekly]
Needling, total number of sessions: 10
Needling device: [Roller: 192N-GROLLER15MM /
TMT Micro Needle Roller System]
Needling depth/needle length: [1.5MM]
Needling intensity: [Mildly aggressive / drawing blood. More similar to 2Young2Retire's regimen than Numbers Guy]
Needled areas: [Entire top of head / all thinning areas]
Needling side effects: [Redness / Soreness for 48 hours]
Using minoxidil: [Yes]
On minoxidil since: [Late November. Slightly before Dermarolling]
Using other treatments at the same time: [Yes, Dermarolling / Minoxidil / RegenePure DR. Minoxidil and Regenepure DR 24 hours after needling]
Witnessing regrowth: [YES]
Regrowth since: [2 weeks after needling]
Pattern of regrowth: [Vellus hairs all over balding areas. Hairline beginning to recover. Vertex near full recovery]
Description of and satisfaction with regrowth: [+3. Still a ways to go, but definite regrowth / thickness / progress. Undeniable.]
Photos showing own progress or lack thereof: [I will be adding pictures at the conclusion of my experiment (1 - 1.5 years). It's a marathon, not a sprint, and I don't want to obsess too much over regrowth too early, nor do I want others. With that said, I am documenting with pictures along the way. Rest assured. ]
@Me Vs DiffuseThinning
Current date: 28/01/2019
Nickname: Me vs DiffuseThinning
Age: 25
Hairloss started at: 17
Current Norwood: 2
Balding pattern: Diffuse and receding.
Affected areas: All of the Norwood 5 area
Treatment history:
- Finasteride since May 2018
- Minoxidil since May 2018
- Nizoral 2% since May 2018
Needling until: Still needling
Needling frequency (average): Weekly
Needling, total number of sessions: About 30
Needling device: Roller
Needling depth/needle length: 1.5mm mostly, rarely 2mm
Needling intensity: medium intensity, rarely high intensity
Needled areas: Norwood 5 area
Needling side effects: Flaking, throbbing sensation on scalp, burning
Using minoxidil: Yes
On minoxidil since: May 2018
Using other treatments at the same time: Big Three
Witnessing regrowth: Yes
Regrowth since: Second month
Pattern of regrowth: Vellus and terminal, but mostly thickness of existing hair
Description of and satisfaction with regrowth: Lots of growth in mid-scalp and front, but crown only starting to make progress in the 8th month.
Photos showing own progress or lack thereof: Had photos on here but took them because someone IRL found me, and then I had some privacy concerns.
@Kitedude
Current date: 29/01/2019
Nickname: Kitedude
Age:37
Hairloss started at: 25
Current Norwood: 2
Balding pattern: receding
Affected areas: temples/Norwood area
Treatment history:
- Dermarolling since 2013 until 2016
- 2016 until 2017 very rare dermarol sessions
- somebody’s protocol since 2017 until 06-2018
- heavy dermarolling since 10-2019
Needling until: still needling"
Needling frequency: 1 time a week heavy Needling device: roller, ordinary one
Needling depth/needle length: 1.5mm
Needling intensity: redness, fair bit of blood
Needled areas: temples only
Needling side effects: redness for 2days, flaking after a week
Using minoxidil: no
On minoxidil since: not yet/ thinking about adding it
Using other treatments at the same time: massage
Witnessing regrowth: yes, did so in the past
Regrowth since: 2013
Pattern of regrowth: Vellus and terminal on the crown and temples
Description of and satisfaction with regrowth: very pleased
Photos showing own progress or lack thereof: -
Naked survey for others to fill out:
Current date: [for reference for the dates to be provided below and for survey updates in the future, please specify current date as dd/mm/yy]
Nickname:
Age:
Hairloss started at:
Current Norwood:
Balding pattern: [diffuse, receding or both]
Affected areas: [frontal hairline/crown/vertex/temples/[Norwood area]]
Treatment history:
- [treatment1] since [month/year] until [month/year]
- [treatment2] since [month/year] until [month/year]
- and so on
Needling until: ["still needling"; otherwise specify date or month/year in case you stopped]
Not needling anymore because: [please specify reason in case you are no longer needling]
Needling frequency (average): [daily/weekly/biweekly etc.]
Needling, total number of sessions:
Needling device: [roller/stamp/pen and brand]
Needling depth/needle length: [specify mm]
Needling intensity: [no redness / mild redness / redness / drawing few drops of blood / drawing lots of blood]
Needled areas: [please specify]
Needling side effects: [please specify, e.g. redness for X days, flaking after Y days, etc.]
Using minoxidil: [yes/no]
On minoxidil since: [specify date, so people can figure out if you started with rolling, before, or added only later]
Using other treatments at the same time: [please specify]
Witnessing regrowth: [yes/no]
Regrowth since: [please specify as month/year or from start of needling, in weeks and/or months]
Pattern of regrowth: [please describe, i.e. only vellus or also terminal and in which areas]
Description of and satisfaction with regrowth: [please describe. you may assign points on a scale from -5 to +5 or use words]
Photos showing own progress or lack thereof: [OPTIONAL, but preferred: please add photos, preferrably with timestamp directly on photo]
Once again, thanks everyone! I will update this thread as I get more data! Members who want to fill it out themselves can post here as well. To keep all info in one place I will then copy-paste their data into this post.
PS:
The list of other people I contacted or who I know are or have been doing dermarolling:
@2young2retire
@MyThinningConfidence
@Dooz
@Longway886
@FCKW36
@cuprous
@Francky85
@sportsguy97
@Jk1
@kiwi666
@MinervaCGI
Especially the first two on this list are known to have been successful. Would be cool if they could also chip in!
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Here's mine from the large thread: