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Currently in a frenzy to treat lump gynecomastia caused by finasteride

Discussion in 'Dealing with Side Effects' started by ajbrah, Oct 12, 2015.

  1. ajbrah

    ajbrah Member

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    Day 14 on letro: I am pleased to say that the lump has almost completely flattened; it is around 80% smaller. Unfortunately, my nipples are still almost the same size (that is, slightly larger than before finasteride) - they just don't stick out and they are no longer visible through t-shirts. Letro sides are very mild but the size seems to be continuing to decrease on 2.5mg/day. Yay! Looking forward to taking some after pictures once I've started and finished tamoxifen.

    I really wish I'd taken some pictures of my nips from the top-view, where the convexity is most visible. I wasn't sure this would work so I didn't want to get my hopes up too much, but it's working! The anecdotes and scientific data check out.
     
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    Dench57 Senior Member My Regimen

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    What kind of sides? I imagine it just makes you feel crappy/lack of energy. Accelerated hairloss?
     
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    g.i joey Senior Member

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    my sex drive was shot from letro, finasteride doesnt do much to my sex drive. Letro really makes finasteride seem like a multivitamin, no joke. The amount of lethargy you feel on it after reaching a steady high dose was unreal, but letro really made my sex drive dissapear for the time i was on it. what i really liked about it is, that **** got rid of all water retention in the body. something that i think finasteride INCREASES which is why our gyno may look worst while we are on finasteride. Which is why i had told ajbrah originally to just get off finasteride alone and see what happens.
     
  4. ajbrah

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    Actually, I feel great right now. I have no libido, but I don't mind that since sex isn't something I'm focused on right now. Joints are a little dry, skin is a little dry, immune system seems shot, cardio is reduced, but it's all pretty mild.
    I disagree with joey about letro making finasteride "seem like a multivitamin." My sides were horrible on finasteride; unbearable. I am actually on finasteride to prevent hair loss while on on letro, but since I'm not experiencing the same finasteride sides I did before, that tells me that high estrogen was likely the culprit for my finasteride sides, and the letro takes care of that.
     
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    In.

    I got mild gyno from finasteride, so this thread can save me, possibly.
     
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    I know it's no medical source but according to Wikipedia

    "Mild cases of gynecomastia may be treated with advice on lifestyle habits such as proper diet and exercise with reassurance."
     
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    Dench57 Senior Member My Regimen

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    Thats pseudo-gyno. Basically just fat, the manboobs you see on overweight guys, which can be exercised off.
     
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    No true Scotsman indeed. I'm pretty sure doctors can distinguish gyno from regular fat build up. The reality is that there are levels of severity to every condition and having a lesser case of it doesn't mean that you don't have the condition. A cancer that can be treated topically is still cancer.
     
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    Dench57 Senior Member My Regimen

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    Pseudo-gyno isn't a "lesser case" of gynecomastia. Although it may look similar, it's a different condition entirely. Pseudo-gyno is just fat buildup and can be reversed with exercise and diet changes. Gynecomastia is a build up of hard, glandular breast tissue. Bodybuilders with the real thing can have it and can be shredded to hell with -10% body fat and they'll still have visible gynecomastia.
     
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    abra New Member My Regimen

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    Please help this brah in need. I took propecia for 5 months. It gave me tremendous regrowth but than I started to feel great pain in chest and very sensitive nipple.
    I did not know that it could be a side effect of propecia but still I stopped propecia for 2 weeks. I felt normal again. Though I was scared but I still restarted propecia in low doses (Having hair on my head was big deal in my life) and damn, after 15 days the pain reappeared. It was more intense and my nipples were pointy and puffy.
    I dropped propecia for once and all. But it's been 3 months but my nipples are still the same. Mind you, I was not putting weight at that time but was actually losing. I am on very lean side but still got pointy and puffy nipples.
    Now problem is I belong to a third world country. The doctors I cobsulted with are asking me to wait for 3,4 months more to see whether it's go away on its own. :(. From what I get about this by my research on this subject that this problem can be contained if treated within the very early period.
    I got my hands on Nolvadex and Letrozole but i don't know how to use them, for how long. Things like "letrozole rebound"and all scare me like hell. Please suggest me any experienced user. I ll be highly indebted.
    Its funny, I must have worried major part of last 10 years of my life worrying about hair. All i could dream about was of having my youthful hair. But now all I worry about is, this particular problem. Can live without hair but not this. Please do help
     
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    Are you still around bro?
     
  12. g.i joey

    g.i joey Senior Member

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    Go to bodybuilding forums and follow the protocol they follow to get rid of early onset gyno after a cycle of roids. It's a pretty famous protocol with lettro, it involved tapering up slowly and then tapering down and switching to a serm to avoid estrogen rebound. I tried propecia in dec 2014 and got gyno, followed this protocol, lost weight and got back on finasteride 8 months ago and no problems since, my chest looks normal now.
     
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    abra New Member My Regimen

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    Thanks a ton brother. I am not on any roid cycle, would it be any problem. I read that using letro without being on roid cycle, shot the sex life. Is it true? Did you feel it? If yes, how long it took to recover? Any other precaution or valuable info that you experienced?
    You are brave brave man to jump back on propecia. Even thinking about that gives me chill. But why wait one and half year to get back on it? Or did gyno problem took longer to resolve?

    Sorry for putting so many questions but you know how it is. Once been always shy.
     
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    Not a problem man, I freaked out when I had gyno and got a lot of help from the bodybuilding forums. Letro side effects are no joke, I had no energy, no libido whatsoever, like none literally. it doesn't matter if you took roids or not, you're addressing gyno with letro, nothing to do with roids. Side effects took about 1-2 eeeks to dissipate after I got off letro. Letro dries you out, you'll lose some weight on it for sure, aside from that, just be aware you may experience joint pain and dead dick syndrome while on Letro. My results from letro were that they shrunk my gland about 80%, the only thing I feel in my chest now is a gland the size of maybe half a pea, in each side. It definitely got rid of all the water retention that was happening in my chest. I can't only attribute the success to letro though, I was 250 pounds when I got the gyno, I then hopped on letro, hopped off finasteride and dropped about 25 pounds which really helped aesthetic wise for me. I now hover around 205-215

    I was scared to get back on propecia man, I'd take it here and there for a couple months at a time but always worried about flaring up gyno again, so I'd get off and lose all progress. Then I got back from vacation last September and decided it's now or never, luckily I haven't had one sign that my chest is being effected, I definitely had symptoms when I was getting gyno back in dec 2014 so I know what to look out for now. Anyways, 8 months back on finasteride and no side effects whatsoever. Hope this answered everything man, remember, early treatment is the best thing you can do for your gyno, once the tissue goes into fibrosis, nothing is shrinking that bitch besides surgery.
     
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    Thanks @g.i joey. Finally after approaching a family friend doctor, I was examined thoroughly. He rebuked me for taking finasteride. After physical examination and ultrasound, I was told that I am fine and no case of gyno. My chest pained like hell and nipples swallowed due to finasteride only.
    In between, I started taking letro. Could not dare to tell him lol. Yesterday he took blood sample for testestorone, estradiol, insulin etc test. God knows what the reading would be.
    For existing swelling (which has not receded at all), he asked to leavr it as it is. Damn. Don't know what to do?

    Met many body builders in hospital, they have developed gyno. They were like you did this to yourself for some strands of hair? They were too bulky otherwise I too wanted to ask Why you do this to yourself just to add those strange looking muscles? Lol.
    I am back to square here. Don't know what to do?
     

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