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Currently in a frenzy to treat lump gynecomastia caused by finasteride

Discussion in 'Dealing with Side Effects' started by ajbrah, Oct 12, 2015.

  1. ajbrah

    ajbrah Junior Member

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    Day 5 on letro:
    Nipple size is down, puffiness is down significantly, lump feels flatter, soreness is 100% gone. Started taking finasteride again on day 3 because I noticed my scalp started itching - I don't want to trade nice hair for nice nipples. I want them both, dammit!
    Probably going to be using 5mg per day as I'm afraid my letro might be underdosed. A couple weeks of this and then I'm switching to nolva which should be coming in a couple of days.
     
  2. g.i joey

    g.i joey Senior Member

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    Good luck man, if they say you get low libido on finasteride, idk what to call it for letro. Expect to have no sex drive at week 2. Letro sides are brutal as hell. The lethargy that comes with it is brutal too.
     
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  3. WhitePolarBear

    WhitePolarBear Senior Member My Regimen

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    Like you would see changes in 5 days.

    Even antibiotics take days to work.

    It's all in your head and you won't win this.

    You're wasting your time. Only surgery fixes gyno.
     
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    Maybe this guy and others like him are trolling. Pretending to get gyno, pretending to need to use letro. Or maybe they are shilling letro. Something just doesn't seem right to me. Although a guy that resorts to drugs for hair loss is probably way more likely to resort to drugs for their other issues as well I suppose.
     
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    Dench57 Senior Member My Regimen

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    LOL. "Pretending to get gyno and shilling Letro". You're always good for a laugh dude.

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  6. g.i joey

    g.i joey Senior Member

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    what kind of mental illness do people have to have to pretend to get gyno. you are so ridiculous its not even normal man, what benefit do we get from making this up. So its believable to take finasteride, get rid of dht for hairloss, but to get rid of breast tissue due to estrogen is so farfetched?

    anyways, i felt improvement after 4 or 5 days. Gyno feeds off estrogen, if it is recent as ajbrah gyno is, cutting off estrogen supply to your tissue will reduce inflammation of the tissue.

    Ajbrah, fred told me the exact same words "gyno needs surgery to be fixed, you're wasting your time...." yet i was succesful in reducing alot of my tissue. Dude is mad cause he had to get surgery, although his case was extreme and i think neither me or you had gyno similar to his.
     
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    WhitePolarBear Senior Member My Regimen

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    I'm not mad because I had surgery. It costed me 0€ by the way. It was just the only solution.

    Gyno doesn't shrink or go away with medication. Several specialists told me the same.

    Have some common sense, do you think that if you feed women letrozole, their breast will shrink?

    You have provided no convincing before/after by the way. You saying "I felt improvement" is useless.

    As with hair loss, convincing pictures or it didn't happen.
     
  8. Dench57

    Dench57 Senior Member My Regimen

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    Then your "specialists" were ill informed. Or perhaps they were reluctant to use hormone-altering medication for something benign and cosmetic like gynecomastia.

    The bodybuilding forums are full of people running SERMS/AIs to block possible gyno or reduce existing gyno. Again, this doesn't really work for gyno that has become fibrotic - surgery is the only option then. But it can work for gyno in its earlier stages.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3526085
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9426725
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16217274
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15238910
     
  9. Yoshi3Mario

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    Those are some convincing sample sizes... I've read gynecomastia forums extensively. Fred is right. Let's just stick to hair loss.

    Yes my comment above was a little extreme. But so is saying gyno completely reversed itself after 5 days. Or saying 1 pill of finasteride caused gyno in the first place. The thing is finasteride doesn't even cause gynecomastia more than the placebo group according to virtually every single finasteride study that has ever taken place... That is why something doesn't seem right to me with all of this gyno crap and letro stuff always being posted on here.
     
  10. g.i joey

    g.i joey Senior Member

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    hey man, how about you open the leaflet and take a look. BUT i will agree with you on one point, swelling of the chest area on finasteride does not always mean gyno! after i got off letro and slowly tapered my finasteride dose to what it is today, my chest looks bigger, but proportionately bigger. my nipples arent puffy anymore, my lumps are almost nonexistant and unseen to the naked eye. but yet when i dont take finasteride for 3 or more days i notice my chest looks smaller. that is why the leaflet indicates swelling of the chest, but not gynecomastia. Which proves that in most cases the increase in estrogen is not enough to cause gyno, but in some cases it can tip one person over the scale and give them little lumps.

    there's no use convincing fred, instead i will post pics of when i had gyno and after a week of taking letro at full dose 2.5mg

    the first picture shows what a week of letro did to my nips, the second pic shows my peak gyno phase. Which is very evident my nipples look very awkward.

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    even the puffyness in the 2nd picture is VERY evident. i first hand cured almost 80% of my gyno with letro so i know for a fact at early stages, it CAN be cured. BIG EMPHASIS on EARLY.
     

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    Something seems off with your photos. Are you squishing your chest together with your arms in the 2nd pic? Are you bringing your elbows and arms back in the first pic? In both pics it looks like you have a fatty chest. More so in the 2nd pic I agree. Not sure I see any evidence of glandular gynecomastia, but the 2nd pic definitely looks questionable.

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    By the way my chest can change throuhg-out the day. After a hot shower, some beers, etc. my chest can feel a little more fat. After a good workout, cold shower, health eating day, it feels like I have no chest fat. That's just me though.
     
  12. g.i joey

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    nah man, my arms are practically at the same angle, maybe not exactly but it wouldnt make a difference. Dude tbh i dont know how you dont see tell tale signs of gyno in the 2nd pic, nipple area sticking out, nipples are bigger, notice how my chest lost contour in the 2nd photo and the nipple area became more prominent. Both of these pics are straight back from the gym after a shower. I do have a fatty chest well... because im fat lol 230 pounds 5'11. But that is besides the point, i was the same weight in both these photos so me being fat shouldnt effect the aesthetic difference that is quite evident in them.

    dude, i have no agenda bro, no ulterior motives. finasteride can cause gyno, and a Letro protocol can SOMETIMES reverse it to a certain extent, most of the time never fully. Why wouldnt you want people to have this information at their access? its beneficial for the rare cases of gyno in finasteride users.
     
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    Pictures not convincing to say the least.
     
  14. g.i joey

    g.i joey Senior Member

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    oookkkk buddy whatever you say...
     
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    WhitePolarBear Senior Member My Regimen

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    If you had seen at least one gynecologist or gynecomastia surgeon, guess what would have been his first medical advice before giving you any medication, or even considering surgery.

    They would have told you to lose weight first. But I guess all health professionals are morons and you had it all figured out for yourself with those dangerous cancer and bodybuilding drugs.

    This is for the newbies: don't try to do this at home. If you suffer from gynecomastia, first, lose weight, and then go see a gynecologist or a surgeon.
     
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    I agree I would have to lose weight to assess how much gyno i really had. But my doctor touching my chest and showing me where my tissue was, was enough for me to know I had gyno. Actually I went over letrozole effects with my Doctor and In his database it even indicated off label use was for gyno. It seems like you're mad that I was able to help myself with letro. What's wrong bro, you mad?
     
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    Visible improvement in those pics Joey. That's crazy after just 1 week. Obviously photoshop though you Letro shill.
     
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    WhitePolarBear Senior Member My Regimen

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    Off label, that's the keyword. I would never have touched letrozole. Have you seen the side effects of that crap?

    Not to mention your hair being destroyed. There is no evidence (at least on the picture) you were able to help yourself.

    I won't post my surgery results again, but you know they are quite obvious. On the other hand, you need to convince us something has changed on your pictures.

    I just don't want newbies to entertain such dangerous modes of action to solve their gynecomastia problem just because popping a pill seems easier.
     
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    g.i joey Senior Member

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    finasteride will never cause gyno like anti depressants do. Still doesn't change the fact thay there's a visible improvement.

    Yes, anyone considering letro should be very aware that side effects are brutal, but sometimes u gotta do what u gotta do eh.
     
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    WhitePolarBear Senior Member My Regimen

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    How would you know that? May I see your medical degree?

    Which is seeing a reliable doctor and get surgery.
     

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