Biojapan 2018 Shiseido Long John Silver

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alibaba92 said:
Replicel was able to get 10% after 6 month, iirc. I expected more than that cause Shiseido is improving it. Yes, maintenance is gold but will they commercialize with very little regrowth ? that is why I am worried.
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Some variance at this stage is largely expectable.
 
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Long John Silver said:
Thank you for your patience and giving me some time to recover a little. Things got sh*t really fast and the hotel maybe over reacted a little too Bros don't know....

So bros BioJapan was both interesting and disappointing. There is no way around this bros and I also needed time to contemplate it and then post a fair write up (not emotional or furious since I spent a lot of effort and money). BioJapan was not a congress or a conference like many bros were saying. BioJapan was primarily an industry meet up. It happened to have some 'seminars' and 'conferences' but there was no mistaking it bros. It was for businesses to show off, meet up, talk business, get contacts and ultimately print money I guess.

Bros Japan is going to be interesting in the future for sure
This expo showed how far ahead some of these companies were in customizing medicines and already trialling regenerative and genetic medicines. It also showed that there was a lot of interest from the global arena purely for the money to be made. The presenter bros said it was way behind drugs with very small investment and tiny tiny sector for obvious reasons. Overall, pretty exciting for the future and medicine bros just not really relevant to our hair situation which sucked for me. They also told me to stop taking pictures but I still tried Bros!

Skipping to the Shiseido session. It started with the nobel winner 2018 Honjo talking about the expo, center for excellence, the future and his prize. Loads of people seemed to have come just to see him? They left soon as his talk finished bros haha. The next guy Kawamata basically showed off Kobe and how its a biotech city and how so many companies are all in the same area, how its looking to make money, open for business, profits, the support the city provides and their integrator position. Bros he talked a lot and it was one big advertisement for Kobe and his organization.

Finally it was Oga's turn. Sadly, it was nothing about what bros were saying. The presentation was basically selling Shiseido as a brand, their history and their hair lineage relationship. All the content seemed to be from other studies already published. They touched on DSCC but nothing new there really either and covered already. They mentioned a 5% improvement in 6 months took photo. This was essentially the official presentation.

Off the record, for rch it got a bit interesting bros in a weird way. They are not expecting the results very soon. Studies and its analysis will take time and when I kept pushing it seemed like the response might not have been that good? I don't know. Kept pushing what about some release date or something bro and got a 2yr maybe. I got the vibe that it might be somewhat strained and maybe not as effective or they losing interest or its not working out or costing too much? I don't know just seemed weird.

Bros there were tons of companies there. All the big boys were there and loads of Japanese companies. Many had little seminars and presentations about their products and services. I had checked out the place much as I could bros. Saw crispr units, companies selling specialized lab mice haha, imaging machines, all kinds of products for cultures and mediums, drugs and their companies. And then who do I find bros? Fidia haha. Again disappointing as sh*t and you'll see from the pic took later on but pushed ahead bros. Asked about release and essentially got maybe realistically next year though trying this year. Why sudden rush? Mumbled about someone else bringing it so rush but No clear answer. International? nope. Asked about studies? yeah brotzu did them but nothing on hand. Stabilized? guesses so but not sure how long or any changes. Ok thanks bro lol.


Pics:

https://imgur.com/a/Lpm6ySl

https://imgur.com/a/DCkQvbV
Correct order is last to first

I have the audio of the session if anyone wants it.
I hope that helps somewhat Bros! For what it's worth I
really tried my best for us Bros and was super excited to bring us a cure! Not lose a lot of money and get sick in the process.
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Thank you for the update. That fidia booth is a whole lot of nothing. :)
 
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Thank you to Long John Silver.

Long John Silver said:
Off the record, for rch it got a bit interesting bros in a weird way. They are not expecting the results very soon. Studies and its analysis will take time and when I kept pushing it seemed like the response might not have been that good? I don't know. Kept pushing what about some release date or something bro and got a 2yr maybe. I got the vibe that it might be somewhat strained and maybe not as effective or they losing interest or its not working out or costing too much? I don't know just seemed weird.
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Two years maybe? f*** me. Now its all up to Tsuji to save us.
 
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Bros it is what it is. I wish I had the cure bros! I haven't sugar coated anything and it is a balanced update about the expo and what went on.

Yeah bros shiseido said 5% and presented that graph. I was listening to a simultaneous English interpretation so it is accurate.

Yep fidia was haha... And yeah the guy referred to brotzu old studies if any were done I guess and didn't have any current ones on him there. What struck me odd in the mumble bros is who forced them to suddenly rush? Who was he talking about? They hadn't done sh*t for years and all of a sudden rushing ahead to price and release?

There was another product that I found there Bros which i don't think we talked about yet and haven't seen discussed here? Could be wrong but looked interesting. I'll post about it tomorrow in own thread bros getting late.
 
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Pigeon said:
Btw are you able to go to the upcoming 23rd Japan Clinical Hair Society Academic conference? It's in november I think.

This is Shiseido's seminar title:

"Toward realization of treatment of alopecia by cell therapy using autologous DSC cells"
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If our bro @Long John Silver will do this for us he will become a legend. Maybe he will bring the cure with Tsuji. Bro you are much better then any of the hairloss blogger. You are a real bro because you give a f*** of cost and travel stress. You do all to hold your hair and you have my biggest respect for helping us. If I would live next to Japan I would do it too. We are no looser bro. We will fight till the end. I would be so glad if you will go to the conference in November and I am sure a lot of bros here would be very happy too. If someone would earn the cure then it would be you! Bro we believe in you!!!
 
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