Balding with zero androgens

[Bungiejumper33g]

You are tracking the things like I do. I am testing a lot of things too! It's very unfortunate mate. I can't believe it. Maybe try some topicals? Have you tried something topical?

No, been doing minoxidil but only for the last 1.5 weeks

 

[GRme11]

No, been doing minoxidil but only for the last 1.5 weeks

You could give a chance to topical Finasteride.

 

[Get my hair back]

Author, what changes in the last couple years?

 

[corn_scoops]

just as a disclaimer, yes my regiment is extreme and I know some people here will disagree with it.

Hello, I’m new to the forum and I’m a 24 year old male. I have been on dutasteride since 2018, I started balding late 2016 after I went on testosterone injections and gel for a couple months. I did this only to not feel as tired, it didn’t help and I stopped. Hair loss started then.
Since july of 2021 I was also on bicalutamide 50mg daily
Estrogen match .05mg then .1mg then injections of estradiol cypionate 2.5mg weekly subq, seems like this was when further thinning started. I’ve been off injections since late December.
I was taking cyprosteone acetate intermdiately until November/December. 25-12.5mg a week I think, maybe more.
I take a lot of supplements, vitamin c 1000mg dose vitamin d 10,000 iu vitamin a vitamin e 800 iu multi vitamin etc
Im a lot more thinner in the temples and also the center since last year. I have clumps and clumps of hair falling out in the bathtub where before this wasn’t the case. Could it be stress? Maybe but that doesn’t explain thinning in the temples and center. It’s significant.
My androgens are at rock bottom, all of them, including androgen metabolites.
I have a lot of blood work.

why is this happening? Shouldn’t the combination of zero androgens and estrogen help hair growth? My androgens are not only low but then they’re also being blocked at the receptor level by bicalutamide.
derms were of no help and just said “it happens it’s genetic” but it’s not, male pattern baldness is genetic and it’s caused by androgens killing the hair follicle but I have no androgens.

@Almas_NW0

 

[corn_scoops]

But how does that explain further temple and center recession? It’s not like it’s horrible but it’s noticeably worse. Thankfully my hairline isn’t that bad but it’s Just that I’m afraid that it will keep getting worse.
It shouldn’t
My hair loss should have been stopped in it’s tracks but somehow it’s worse with no testosterone no dht and no all other androgens, androgen precursors and metabolites.

Do you have a baby face yet? Most people who are balding also have an older looking face. People who get progress with hrt when they post before and after they have clean glowing girl skin

 

[losingbattle88]

Do you have a baby face yet? Most people who are balding also have an older looking face. People who get progress with hrt when they post before and after they have clean glowing girl skin

I got a baby face all my life even at 36. Need to show ID still to buy alcohol. Stop talking BS. Also a guy at work who is 42 and balding badly with a baby face.

 

[losingbattle88]

Even I'm looking for answers.....since beginning hrt my hair has been pretty bad

How is your hair today?

 

[Mr. Slap Head]

How is your hair today?

he's b0lding BOYO

 

[Mr. Slap Head]

Also keep in mind just because you have no androgens in your blood, that doesn't mean you don't have any in your TISSUES. Dutasteride can completely nuke DHT in the blood, but large amounts still can remain in the tissues.