anybody here good at doing a 20 minute cardio workout?

[I_Hate_DHT]

You start burning fat at minute 30. Not at minute 40. Clueless kid.

 

[bubka]

You start burning fat at minute 30. Not at minute 40. Clueless kid.

a wrong again you idiot...

the time it takes you to start burning fat depends on a number of factors, one is the amount of glycogen within the muscles, as well as stored glycogen in the liver, not to mention the intensity of the workout, pluss a few more that are over your "30 min" rule mind

but I_Hate_DHT says 30 min because he is not a "Clueless kid"

keep pulling crap out of your *** man... :thumbs_up:

 

[I_Hate_DHT]

You start burning fat at minute 30. Not at minute 40. Clueless kid.

a wrong again you idiot...

the time it takes you to start burning fat depends on a number of factors, one is the amount of glycogen within the muscles, as well as stored glycogen in the liver, not to mention the intensity of the workout, pluss a few more that are over your "30 min" rule mind

but I_Hate_DHT says 30 min because he is not a "Clueless kid"

keep pulling crap out of your *** man... :thumbs_up:

On average, most people start burning FAT at minute 30 (some start before that mark).. Ask a specialist, and stop getting crap from your GAY Pounded and Dirty ***. :lol:

Following your logic, it's very stupid to say "you start burning fat at minute 40" like you SAID... You are so stupid. a**h**.

 

[bubka]

:lol: whatever, and you say i have a "GAY Pounded and Dirty ***."

wow, i find it interesting that you are even thinking about my sexuality... brings up a lot of question about yours, given what we know you are thinking, as posted in your own words

I_Hate_DHT: I have a degree in Biology, and taken multiple Human Nutrition classes in my graduate work, I think I know what I am talking about, you just give out a number, and I refute your number with facts and actual biological physiology, yet you tell me to "ask a specialists"... jesus, i mean how many times can one guy get "owned" on a forum...

i never said 30 min is not possible, sure you are likely to start then, even sooner given your diet and other reasons i already stated, but we are talking about "burning fat" not starting to burn fat, burning fat to lose weight, 30 is not going to cut it...

what 30 minute aerobic class, weight loss training, or running program have you ever heard of??? NONE

here is one "expert"

Cardiovascular Exercise - Basics Of Aerobics For Fat Loss

The reason for this is that when exercise is not performed first thing in the morning it takes your body approximately anywhere between 20 to 30 minutes to start burning fat. This is because that it how long it takes the body to deplete its glycogen stores and switch to a fat burning environment. Therefore, it would not be efficient to perform aerobic exercise by itself at any other time during the day because you would need to perform it for 20-30 minutes just to get to the fat burning stage and for an additional 20 minutes just so that you burn fat. This would give a grand total of 50 minutes a day and in my opinion

http://bodybuilding.about.com/od/cardio ... basics.htm

is there a f*****g echo in here?

 

[Guest]

jesus, i mean how many times can one guy get "owned" on a forum...

careful, he'll accuse you of doing a combover too. and has he posted pics yet? no i don't think he has. which means he's probably pretty bad off.

 

[powersam]

if i havent just had a carb loaded meal, i could sprint for 3 minutes and i would be burning fat.

 

[Felk]

Mmmmm.... burning fat....

Reminds me of bacon frying... :slurp:

 

[powersam]

don't tempt the fatties with bacon Felk. you might get your hand bitten.

btw how is the weight gain campaign going? i started last week but instead of putting on weight i lost 3 kgs. have no idea how as i've been stuffing myself all day every day. maybe my metabolism just sped up in response.

 

[bubka]

if i havent just had a carb loaded meal, i could sprint for 3 minutes and i would be burning fat.

no you would not, you would be using ATP, phosophcrietine, and maybe some glycogen... what you ate does not effect a "3 minute sprint"

 

[powersam]

my point was more that people should spend less time obsessing about how to do exercise and more time doing it. if i changed nothing else in my life and did a 3 minute sprint session every day i would lose weight and gain cardio fitness. anyone can find 3 minutes.

 

[bubka]

3 minutes and lose weight??? No, unless you ate the same amount of calories that maintained your weight, and added 3 minute sprint, you may lose some weight over a year, but i doubt it would be more than five pounds

i know i run at a decent clip, at the end of a longer run, i am going about 8.5 pace, that close to 10 calories a minute... so lets just use 25 calories

there are 3500 calories in a pound of fat / 25, you could lose 2.6 lbs in a year, with the 3 minute daily sprint... that only if you eat the same amount of calories to maintain weight too, which is doubtful

 

[Felk]

don't tempt the fatties with bacon Felk. you might get your hand bitten.

btw how is the weight gain campaign going? i started last week but instead of putting on weight i lost 3 kgs. have no idea how as i've been stuffing myself all day every day. maybe my metabolism just sped up in response.

Hahaha. Yeah you sound like me, trying to put on weight and losing it, hehehe. I'm assuming from your interest in insulin resistance you're eating/supplementing with a diet that combats this? Apparently low-GI diets usually result in weight loss, so that could be it. Though this is due to a loss of fat, so it's a good thing.

I haven't been putting on much weight, maybe a kilo or two, over a few months. I'll be away for a week or two and won't be working out, so I'm going to stop my protein supplementation for a bit. When i get back and can hit the weights again, ill get back into it and see how i go.

 

[powersam]

yeah i don't eat anything that spikes my insulin and glucose levels. got my hands on a blood glucose meter and was testing myself numerous times throughout the day for a week or two just to see what was causing spikes. on a side note, my libido has gone through the roof. and im on dutasteride so apparently my dick should have gone crooked, turned green fallen off and given babies two heads. i think it would be really useful for people to get an insulin response test done, or even just try a low gi diet and see how it feels.

bubka you are probably right. im no sports scientist. but i still think doing any exercise at all is better than obsessing about whether fat starts burning at 40 minutes rather than 30. you are taking into account though that a 3 minute sprint will elevate body function and burn energy long after the sprint is over right?

 

[Felk]

yeah i don't eat anything that spikes my insulin and glucose levels. got my hands on a blood glucose meter and was testing myself numerous times throughout the day for a week or two just to see what was causing spikes. on a side note, my libido has gone through the roof. and im on dutasteride so apparently my dick should have gone crooked, turned green fallen off and given babies two heads. i think it would be really useful for people to get an insulin response test done, or even just try a low gi diet and see how it feels.

bubka you are probably right. im no sports scientist. but i still think doing any exercise at all is better than obsessing about whether fat starts burning at 40 minutes rather than 30. you are taking into account though that a 3 minute sprint will elevate body function and burn energy long after the sprint is over right?

Hey that metre sounds very useful. Yeah low-GI diets are the way, I'm sure insulin resistance is behind so many of the hormonal health problems people are having (acne, premature hair loss, girls hitting puberty so early)

But I'd say the rise in libido is most likely due to your DHT levels changing since your move to dutasteride, you've done this relatively recently haven't you? The first couple of weeks on finasteride i had no libido some days, raging boners a few days later.

 

[powersam]

hmm i'd be in the second or third month i think, at .5mg 5 times a fortnight. when i started it the first time, the whole libido rollercoaster had rolled itself out by the start of the second month. as it did this time. honestly i think its the diet, happened last time i tried this kind of diet.

interesting point, did you know the symptoms of insulin resistance mimic that of benign prostatic hyperplasia? (think we need a diff thread for this hey)

 

[CCS]

if i havent just had a carb loaded meal, i could sprint for 3 minutes and i would be burning fat.

no you would not, you would be using ATP, phosophcrietine, and maybe some glycogen... what you ate does not effect a "3 minute sprint"

Once your body burns off all the glycogen and other fast fuels after a 20 minute run late in the day, would it not have to take from fat reserves to refill the glycogen? If you just stay weak and hungry, isn't that what would happen during the morning run? If you burn more calories than you eat, you will burn fat eventually, no matter how you burn the calories. It may not be during your workout, but it will happen some time. I think the best idea is to avoid starve/stuff cycles of running on an empty stomach. Also, if you are eating the right amount of food each day, you should not need to do a pure fat burn in the morning on an empty stomach. You should be able to just do cardio workouts (not to be confused with aerobics) and weights for strength and enderance development, and not worry about the fat.

 

[CCS]

As you workout, i think your body first calls on ATP, then creatine, then a few other things, finally gets to fat. But it calls on all of these at all times to varying degrees. Just 90+% of one at one end and gradual changes as time goes on. I think creatine becomes predominate at about 8 seconds to 15.

Your body will even burn protein. It prefers other fuel sources first, but when you are getting 70% of your fuel from fat, a small but very measurable percentage will come from protein. But if you avoid starve and stuff diets and workouts, you will never dip into the protein. Do 20 minutes and burn some glycogen and carbs. Stop, and let your body replenish the glycogen gradually. It has to come from somewhere, so probably the fat, if you don't increase your calorie intake.

 

[LookingGood!]

anybody here good at running or cycling for 20 minutes? ive always had and still do run out of breath easily even tough i have strong quadriceps. But all my life i really sucked at cardio, i run out of breatch after 3 minutes. Anybody here really good at cardio?

First off the shortness osf breath you are experiencing for the first 3-8 minutes is you heart's response to the task and it's attempt to reach a steady state. It is initially pumping harder then accommodating.

How long have you engaged in a cardio program?
When was the last time you had a complete checkup?

 

[LookingGood!]

You start burning fat at minute 30. Not at minute 40. Clueless kid.

No!! The literature states about 40-45 minutes. You need to read up.

 

[bubka]

[quote="I_Hate_DHT":e2ad0]You start burning fat at minute 30. Not at minute 40. Clueless kid.

No!! The literature states about 40-45 minutes. You need to read up.[/quote:e2ad0]
oh, how doth they question the brilliant knowledge of I_Hate_DHT :roll: :lol: