Actual Percentage Of Side Effects From Finasteride?

[Saiyaman]

As of right now I have very slow male pattern baldness (NW2 for 5 years) and have started a treatment of rogaine as to not end up an Norwood 2a/3a like my father (he is 56, so I think it may not be severe). After thinking about it for a few weeks and agonizing over the social implications if I let myself recede, I decided to get a prescription for finasteride.

The 2 dermatologist hair specialists I spoke with assured me the risks of side effects are relatively low (2-4% as reported) and the risks of those being permanent are significantly less on top of that. One had said she saw 1 case in her time as a hair loss specialist and the other had said she had never seen patients with the sides. But on these forums it seems like it's story, after story, after story of everything from developing a useless penis to hyperandrogenicity all the way to feeling suicidal. I have been on and off lexapro and always recover from my sides that I have had when I was on the drug, but I understand these 2 are not simulacrum. So forgive me if I ask questions.

Am I missing any statistics on these sides or things like hyperandrogenicity? Are there not more cases of people having very good results (regrowth and minimal sides)?

I would really like the peace of mind I am doing everything I can to halt (regrow if lucky) male pattern baldness, at least for another 5-10 years.

Thank you.

 

[ahmed wolf]

if u alredy think about the sides u will get them
ur only choice is to try if u end up with permanent ED u can go for a peins trasplant

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

As of right now I have very slow male pattern baldness (NW2 for 5 years) and have started a treatment of rogaine as to not end up an Norwood 2a/3a like my father (he is 56, so I think it may not be severe). After thinking about it for a few weeks and agonizing over the social implications if I let myself recede, I decided to get a prescription for finasteride.

The 2 dermatologist hair specialists I spoke with assured me the risks of side effects are relatively low (2-4% as reported) and the risks of those being permanent are significantly less on top of that. One had said she saw 1 case in her time as a hair loss specialist and the other had said she had never seen patients with the sides. But on these forums it seems like it's story, after story, after story of everything from developing a useless penis to hyperandrogenicity all the way to feeling suicidal. I have been on and off lexapro and always recover from my sides that I have had when I was on the drug, but I understand these 2 are not simulacrum. So forgive me if I ask questions.

Am I missing any statistics on these sides or things like hyperandrogenicity? Are there not more cases of people having very good results (regrowth and minimal sides)?

I would really like the peace of mind I am doing everything I can to halt (regrow if lucky) male pattern baldness, at least for another 5-10 years.

Thank you.

Studies say a few percentage point chance of watery semen, ED, decreased libido, depression.

Many here believe the odds are much higher.

Lots of people get a good outcome from finasteride.

There's just no way to predict how you'll respond.

 

[technoport]

Also if we carefully read the studies, they never talk about the fitness level of their test subjects. A person who is shred vs a person who is on a full fat diet may also react different - thats me just throwing it out. A proper study should actually look into these details of diet, lifestyle and genetics before grouping all under one. Working in a research environment (both humans and animals study) i can tell you that there is a higher chance they picked the candidates they already knew will have less side effects based on their physical condition.

 

[jimmyjonas]

It really is the unknown with taking it, most do well, some get cut down after a short period of time.

Just for the record the guy who prescribed it to me told me the same thing he never saw anyone with persisting problems, I believed him, then I found out that two seperate guys had tried to take legal action against his clinic for persisting sides that lasted longer than a year.

There does seem to be a pattern of guys that get sides have a history of depression and anxiety so with you taking lexapro that does suggest that.

You more than likely will be fine but just get yourself in good physical shape before you touch it I do believe there is something in what poster says above about physical state when you take it.

I'm not trying to scare you but feel obliged to point out my experience as if someone had of told me the same maybe I wouldn't have taken it and saved myself a lot of anguish.

Good luck with whatever you decide.

 

[Saiyaman]

Thanks for the heads up! I reviewed the clinical trials and I think the odds are in my favor.

 

[Saiyaman]

The only reason I even all is the recent string of men's journal articles staying side effects are present in 30% of users in the long term.

 

[jimmyjonas]

The only reason I even all is the recent string of men's journal articles staying side effects are present in 30% of users in the long term.

Where did you see that? I highly doubt it's 30% even the recent release from the PFS foundation put the figure at approx 2% for long lasting sides

 

[Saiyaman]

http://www.mensjournal.com/health-fitness/health/are-hair-loss-drugs-safe-20150914




"Sexual impairment induced by antidepressant drugs was underestimated for decades for just this reason," wrote Thomas Moore, a researcher with the Institute for Safe Medication Practices, in an editorial in the June issue of JAMA Dermatology. Moore said side-effect estimates for those drugs have since jumped from between 1 and 3 percent to between 30 and 60 percent.

 

[jimmyjonas]

I never read that before, I think the key word in it is estimates range from 1-3 to 30 percent I've never seen any study to back that up so it is really just pulled out of the air.

As I said the PFS foundation released a study recently that confirmed......well nothing really only that approx 2 percent reported sides which lasted 4/5 years. Harvard were the last to conduct a comprehensive study on people with side effects which didn't find anything wrong with these men so it is a bit of a mystery.

All that being said it's not a harmless sugar pill and if it's powerful enough to stop your hair falling out it could well interfere with other functions that you need a lot more than hair.

So proper consideration before you take it is very wise seeing as you only have one body and can't trade it in if something goes wrong.

For the majority that if they get a side effect they disappear in about two weeks.

 

[TheGrayMan2001]

It's probably somewhere between 1 to 10% suffer some form of sides. That means 90% of people suffer no sides.

There is a cult of Propecia-haters out there who troll message boards with the exact same garbage pseudoscience I've seen since I started getting on this board in 2009.

I would think that if they were right we would actually see more and more real "problems" with Finasteride. However, we have seen the opposite -- more quiet use of it with fewer people talking about it on the internet. The reason? It works and usually doesn't cause sides.

 

[ajbrah]

Considering the fact that there is no question that it SEVERELY depletes the majority of dozens of neurochemicals, as well as DHT, which is highly important in men if you want to look like a man, I would say the chance for side effects is 100%. The chance that you will notice them is probably more like 10%. All pharmaceuticals with profound effects on hormones will, of course, have those effects on 100% of the people who take them, with varying degrees of effect size and sensitivity to them.

For me, my three weeks on finasteride were hell. I developed permanent gynecomastia from the elevated estrogens and depleted DHT/androgens (which prevent estrogen from binding). I don't go around bashing finasteride, but I may as well warn one or two people while I'm in this thread. I do not have "post finasteride syndrome," just side effects you would expect from someone sensitive to those kinds of hormonal changes.

(While I'm here, I should probably mention Rogaine has pretty nasty sides too. I can tell people are on it from the raccoon eyes usually. Also something strangely soft and feminine about the faces of finasteride users.)

If you must use finasteride, I recommend using it topically rather than drenching all of your body tissues with it by taking it orally. Kind of stupid to f* up your whole body in the attempt to get it to penetrate your scalp tissues, rather than applying it directly to the target tissue. Kind of like taking oral antifungals for a toenail fungus. Doesn't make sense to me.

 

[jimmyjonas]

Yeah I agree with that, in hindsight topical finasteride would be a preferred option for me, 6 months of my life have been hell because of the side effects from oral finasteride with only real improvements in the last couple of weeks, a horrific experience that I did not see coming but I've been working the cds nuts protocol and it has definitely helped, I don't believe the effects are permanent but they ain't easy to shift you just have to work hard to bring system back into balance. I encourage anyone struggling with sides to avoid Propecia help and look at Swole Source, anyway apologies for hogging the thread.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

Topical finasteride goes systemic.

 

[jimmyjonas]

Topical finasteride goes systemic.

Well f*** that, then I guess in hindsight for me not taking anything containing finasteride would have been the best option! Although my hairloss has stopped since coming off it, it's not something I give a f*** about now.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

Well f*** that, then I guess in hindsight for me not taking anything containing finasteride would have been the best option! Although my hairloss has stopped since coming off it, it's not something I give a f*** about now.

Do you have PFS?

 

[g.i joey]

Also something strangely soft and feminine about the faces of finasteride users.)

So tell me, how many "soft and feminine" finasteride user faces have you seen in real life? Or is this just a cope to not being able to take it?

 

[jimmyjonas]

Do you have PFS?

I have persistent side effects from finasteride that have lasted for 6 months so if that's PFS then yes I do

 

[ajbrah]

So tell me, how many "soft and feminine" finasteride user faces have you seen in real life? Or is this just a cope to not being able to take it?

There is something "off" about the face of everyone who takes finasteride long-term. Just look up "face looks different" finasteride or the like. I've noticed it independently, and clearly I am not the only one. The effects on DHT pretty much explain it.

Anyway, I recently mixed 50mg crushed finasteride into half a bottle of shampoo, along with some niacin, powdered coffee, black pepper extract, and avocado oil. Planning to rinse immediately and follow it up with Nizoral 1% to minimize systemic absorption. Because f* it, might as well try if our only mainstream solutions are complete crap. spironolactone cream? Pills that destroy your natural hormones? Rogaine, which gives you wispy hair that falls out again when you stop and has tons of side effects? Give me a break. I'd rather wear hats for the rest of my life and remain healthy and masculine.

I'm a NW1 by the way.

 

[ahmed wolf]

There is something "off" about the face of everyone who takes finasteride long-term. Just look up "face looks different" finasteride or the like. I've noticed it independently, and clearly I am not the only one. The effects on DHT pretty much explain it.

Anyway, I recently mixed 50mg crushed finasteride into half a bottle of shampoo, along with some niacin, powdered coffee, black pepper extract, and avocado oil. Planning to rinse immediately and follow it up with Nizoral 1% to minimize systemic absorption. Because f* it, might as well try if our only mainstream solutions are complete crap. spironolactone cream? Pills that destroy your natural hormones? Rogaine, which gives you wispy hair that falls out again when you stop and has tons of side effects? Give me a break. I'd rather wear hats for the rest of my life and remain healthy and masculine.

I'm a NW1 by the way.

so ur nw1 and took finasteride?
what about us nw3 diffuse thinning we should be on a full transgender regime
when i was nw1 i didnt give a f*** about hair loss hell I don't give a f*** about reducing really its the thinning that but me in these fourms and ultimately trying finasteride