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1400 Grafts Fue Dense Pack With Dr. Keser (27-29 September 2016)

Discussion in 'Hair Transplant FUE Before and After Photos' started by Starscream, Oct 10, 2016.

  1. davesmith420

    davesmith420 Senior Member My Regimen

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    Hair is looking great man! Were you ever on minoxidil or just strictly finasteride?
     
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    Starscream Established Member My Regimen

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    I've never been on minoxidil in my life. Just Finasteride since late 2003 or 2004 (I' dont' remember) and I took two long separate breaks, about 8-10 months, in the noughties.
     
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    Starscream Established Member My Regimen

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    I was rereading my report. Obviously you can't bring a water supply from home, because liquids are forbidden in air travels. So you have to buy some bottles of water in Cankaya if you want to go in economy mode. There are some grocery stores near the clinic. Anyway you can bring packed and processed food from home but I don't remember exactly what is forbidden and what is not. Basically all that is solid is ok at the airport. I brought a wedge of parmesan, about 20 ounces of packed processed turkey, a package of hardtacks and bread. Plus some chocolate bars. I stored everything in the little fridge in the hotel room. Yes the little fridge that contains the EXTREMELY expensive water, sodas, and snacks provided by the hotel so don't make a mess and be sure not to eat the hotel snacks but only yours :D

    I ate at a restaurant outside the hotel only the first day, when I went around as a tourist. In the days of surgery I woke up very early (about 6.30 am), I ate a lot at the free breakfast buffet offered by the king hotel (there is almost everything: water, orange juice, coffee, milk, tea, various kind of breads, cakes, lunch meats, vegetables, marmalades, peanut butter, cereals, corn flakes, eggs, omelet, etc. etc. ) and had surgery in the late morning/early afternoon. Then I ate something at dr.Keser clinic between extractions and placing of the grafts. After returning to the hotel, even if I wanted to have dinner at the restaurant room at least once, I was always so tired (and under medications that were mainly oral paracetamol) that I could just eat something I had in the room (bread and turkey I brought from home and some tea and nescafe plus honey/marmelade provided daily by the hotel staff) and then i fell asleep. As I said half a litre of mineral water plus nescafe, tea, honey and marmelade are supplied daily by the hotel staff if you consume them (or just hide them in a drawer lol) and in every room you have an electric kettle to make nescafe and tea.
     
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    What will you do once the finasteride sides kick in
     
  5. Starscream

    Starscream Established Member My Regimen

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    If, not when, the sides will kick in, I'll try at first to take half a milligram per day (as suggested by dr.Wong for mantaining in the long term). If the sides persist even at half dose, I will give a try to saw palmetto or finasteride gel.
     
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    How short can you cut the hair in the donor
    what do doctors say? I would hate it to leave it on 1/3 inch
     
  7. Starscream

    Starscream Established Member My Regimen

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    I didn't try yet at what lenght the harvested spots start to be visible. I think I will cut my hair very short next summer and then we will see. In the last 2 pictures at 4 months the donor hair was clipper short. Obviously a clipper with a guide comb on, of which I don't know the exact lenght.

    1/3 inch is about 8.5 mm. I wish I will be able to cut my hair that short without looking harvested. I will let you know.
     
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    Some patients get some white dotting. If the dotting interferes with a decent look when you cut your hair short, you can do a combination of FUE and tricopigmentation. It amazes me that while working at Dr. Cole's office, I have never once seen white dotting where hair is extracted from the beard area below the jawline. The attached photo is of our repair patient who had 5,000 beard hair grafts extracted. Beard hair is commonly used to repair white dotting in the scalp donor area.
    -Chuck at Dr. Cole's office
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  9. Starscream

    Starscream Established Member My Regimen

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    Hi guys, here I am at six months. As I said in the Italian forum (and we spoke a lot about this) the overall result at 6 months is good. In particular:

    - the right temple is excellent
    - the temple points are excellent
    - donor healing is very good
    - direction of transplanted hair is excellent
    - what bothers me is the left temple/hairline.

    I'm gonna speak about these issues on the left because they bother me, but I want to make clear that all the rest is very good to excellent. In addition Dr. Keser already said that it is ok for him to make a free touch-up if everything remains the same after 1 year (September 2017)

    In the left hairline I have some low density zones, not everything implanted regrew. In particular there is a zone near the center of hairline that is almost empty if not for a double graft among nothing. Here's another thing: I have three doubles in front line on the left hairline who looks like a very thick single hair and look innatural, even when the 2 hairs grow longer and detach from each other, they look like 2 hairs with the same root and I don't like it. But most of the time i wear my hair short so they simply look one single really thick hair.
    The Doctor said that, when harvested, this grafts seemed to be 1 hair follicular unit but ended up to be double because one of the hair had fallen out at the time of the transplant.

    I'm going to let you see the pics now.
    I have written some captions in Italian, I hope they are clear: doppia and doppietta means double. Vuotino means little empty zone. In prima linea means in the front line. In mezzo al nulla means in the middle of nothing (amongst an empty zone). Principale means main.

    As I said these are minor issues the Doctor already offered to fix. The overall is good to very good for me. It would be excellent if it wasn't for the left little problems. Unfortunately my natural hair part is on the left, so the left temple is the exposed one. If I were able to make the part on the right, I think these issues wouldn't have annoyed me so much.

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    Starscream Established Member My Regimen

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    In the last donor pics, donor hair is about 6 mm long I think.
     
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    Starscream Established Member My Regimen

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    Keser charges 3.5 Euro per graft. Or you mean the touch-up?
     
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    All the surgery
     
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    Pretty sure it is natural to have a couple of rogue doubles and triples in the hairline. Quite frankly that is the best transplant hairline I have ever seen after six months, if not top 20 for a final result. The fact that he suggests he'd offer a touchup or fix despite your result being an absolute monster is extremely impressive. I think Keser is getting even better dense packed hairlines than Rahal, and better designs too. Your hair quality and thickness helps too.

    Not sure you have anything to complain about whatsoever at this stage though,your hairline is as dense as the average non balding 20 year old at this point and the minor issues actually make it more natural. Temple areas are naturally thinner on everyone and yours already look very thick. It isn't natural to have a perfectly even and thick hairline all the way across.
     
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    I agree the transplant is good overall, as I said excellent almost in every aspect except for the left temple that has some minor flaws. The density is low in some areas, one of these is large, and I have some disturbing doubles in the frontline. That is not natural looking. Doctor Keser agrees with me after seeing the photos. It is a touch up to a great work, I agree with it, but it is necessary because the left temple is far from gorgeous as the right one is instead.

    3.5 Euro per graft plus the air travels, the hotel bill and dinners (I ate almost nothing for dinner and always inside my hotel room)
     
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    JeanLucBB Senior Member My Regimen

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    If I was Keser I'd tell you to piss off. Transplant surgeons typically consider a "natural" result to be their goal, the perfection you are looking for isn't natural, and no the rogue doubles in the hairline do not look unnatural. A regular hairline would have a few double and triple follicles. Most teenagers don't have better hairlines than you.

    Credit to Keser for consistently putting out these monster results. The average doctor wouldn't do a touchup for a result even half as dense as this too, so credit to the great service he offers. I'm sure your result will continue to improve over the next few months anyway.
     
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    I don't know how you can have any complaints about this result.

    Think about poor hyte butchered by ********* and left with bumfluff for a hairline
     
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    Any link to the thread?
     
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    Maybe I didn't explain myself. I'm satisfied and think Keser did a great job overall. I only have some lack of regrowth and some unnatural doubles on the left hairline and I think I need a touch-up just to be a 10 or a 9 out of 10. Also, I was a norwood 2 with thick hair overall (thanks to fina), I did a transplant to get a perfect hairline. I was not a guy with big hair troubles in the first place, so my expectations were high. I'm sorry you don't understand me. The little flaws on the left hairline are evident (as I said all the rest is perfect). Maybe the pics can't clearly show it.
     

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