winterheartlee's story-(Male, 20, UK): 4 month fincar update

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Hey guys
Ive been reading the posts on this forum for the part few months, so i thought it was time i registered and introduced myself.
My name is Lee, im 20 years old and im live in Cardiff, Wales.
When i was 16 i decided I wanted to have long hair, so i began growing it. By the time i was 18 it was pretty long and i started noticing that the centre parting was starting to get a little wider...I used to hairspray the parting cos i didnt like the little untidy bits sticking out and I would also straighten my hair.

From that point I started brushing it back so i had no parting and I always used to have my hair tied back in a ponytail. Throughout these years I used to hairspray and straighten my hair, and i used to brush my hair about 4 - 6 times a day.
When i used to shower, i wudnt really find that there was loads of hair in the plug or anything, but when i would get out and comb my hair when wet (i realise now how bad it is to comb wet hair) and I used to just basically rip the hair out of my head, and since I would brush it back (against the way it was growing) then it used to come out very easily and i would have clumps of it in my comb and on my carpet.
I continued this bad treatment to my hair for the last 2 years... straightening, blow drying, hairspraying backwards and keeping it in a tight pontytail like that and brushing my hair way way too much.

It was my 20th birthday last september and i had recently started university. I could see that I had lost alot of hair, but i didnt quite believe it. I thought it was just because the way i brushed it back showed more scalp, but then i decided to have it all cut off in october. And on that day It really hit me how bad my hair loss was!

As most of you on this board probably understand, I was very upset... I dont think people at 20 years of age are supposed to feel like they are getting old lol... it was a slap in the face.
But anyway, yeh i had it cut off so that it was a few inches long, i wanted it spiked up at first, but that revealed to much scalp. So i mainly hid it under a black beanie or a bandana lol
The main areas of baldness was at the front of my head... my hairline had receded on the one side slightly, but the main problem was the lack of volume of hair all over the top of my head.... Except for temple, It wasnt so much male pattern baldness, but diffuse hairloss.

I went to the doctors to see get it diagnosed. He took some blood tests to make sure everything was ok, and confirmed that. He said then that its 'most likely' genetic baldness, and explained that it does not always follow the male pattern baldness. I tried pushing for Propecia on perscription (perscriptions are free in wales) but he said that I should try the less aggressive solution first with minoxidil and said if it hasnt worked in the year then he would send me to the dermo to talk about the other options.

Anyway, half way through november I had read enough about hairloss and treatment on the internet and decided to start using Regaine Extra Strength. I have been using it twice a day as directed, and im pretty sure i have so positive results.
I didnt really how much it had worked until I decided to have a number 4 all over back in febuary. Heres some pictures:

Before the cut 17th october (Can see the thin hair a right at the front of head, especially my left temple, cant see so much at back because hair is covering it up)
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AFter the haircut (see how thin the hair is in scalp)
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9th april (left temple has grown back but still slightly thin and grows slower than the rest, and hair looks even all over, but its still not enough hair all over)
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So yeh, as you can see its not looking too bad. It looks worst on what ever part of the hair is pointing directly towards the camera... since its like a birdseye view on the hairs...and it doesnt help that my skin is very pale (being ginger and all that)

So this is after 5 months on Regaine extra strength, id say its doing something, although When looking at pics of my hair before i started growing it, i still had alot more hair on my head, enough so that you could bearly see the scalp, but it is still early days yet, and this is just with regaine alone. I think its important to note that i never had any shedding with Regaine... it didnt get worse which was pretty good, and also since its not really supposed to work at the front of the head and temples (which was my main affected area) its done the job pretty nicely i think.

Heres the catch... Im not quite sure if my hair loss was male pattern baldness or perhaps traction alopecia. My father was already really receded by the time he was my age, and same with his father I think (dont have anything to do with that part of my family) on my mothers side, my grandad was quite receded when i can remember him (dont know when it started) and he had a small spot on his vertex too.... he still had long hair covering most of his head when he died in his early 80's... My uncle is receded, so is my one cousin (brother is fine and other cousin is too) So yeh its very possible its male pattern baldness, but everyone i kno in my family has started with receded hairline... and my hair just kinda went thin the diffuse way (which hasnt happened to anyone in my family that i know of)
So its also possible that it was traction alopecia... I used to hairspray it, straighten it, comb it and blow dry it back in the opposite direction of growth everyday for 4 years. My hair is very thick and heavy and i grew it nearly 2 ft long.... As i said, hair wasnt falling out in the bath or shower, it was just falling out when i was doing all of the damaging things to it and 'pulling' it out.

So heres where i could like peoples opinions and wisdom if theres any people on this board who had long hair and mistreated it... I would love it if it was traction alopecia, would mean its growing back and its gonna stay like it, but due to the family history and my bad luck :p it probably is male pattern baldness

Anyway, looking forward to hearing some replies

Lee
 

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barcafan

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Re: My Story: Male, 20, UK

Yeah, it looks like male pattern baldness. You best bet would be to get on the BIG 3

Propecia (Finasteride)
Minoxidil
Nizoral
 
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Re: My Story: Male, 20, UK

I may start using the shampoo, but since im getting such good results with Minoxidil at the moment, id rather see how far i can get with that.

Then in the future when/if i build up a tolerance to minoxidil then i still have another line of defence.... propecia.

Thanks anyway
 

metalheaddude

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Re: My Story: Male, 20, UK

I think your hair looks great! Especially in the buzzed hair shots. Balding up the middle from the start of tha hairline is very rare. Most people thin there, but rarely go skin bald, unless your NW7 destined. I think you have just developed your mature hairline.
 
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Ah thanks :)
It doesnt look too bad.... and it has definitely got better since the (just after haircut pic)... All you can see there is scalp, cant even see a definite hairline....
But i am still way off my natural amount of hair... Could never see scalp before, but i think i get away with it at the moment because im ginger :p and ginger people 'usually' have low density of hair on there head, but i never did....
Regaine has currently made patches of my hair thicker and soon hopefully the rest will catch up, and ive got a doctors appointment today so im gonna ask for propecia.... although he might have to refer me to the derm for that.
If he says 'just deal with it'... which my last bald doctor implied, then im just gonna buy some finpecia from inhouse...
Thats the thing with this country, its great that all perscriptions are free, but when it comes to something like propecia, the NHS dont wanna spend the money on it.... so they wont perscribe it.
I just hope the doctor i have today aint bald and bitter too :p
 
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Thanks.... Yeh thats a plus I guess lol
Recently bought some Nizoral and still waiting on my fincar to arrive from inhousepharmacy.... Im hoping i can get the density i used to have.... or if not id be happy with what i have now and just maintain it...
 

NicholasLim

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Re: winterheartlee's story - (Male, 20, UK)

You have a really strong hairline and that's really good because i think receeding hairline is harder to treat compare to thinnning
 
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Re: winterheartlee's story - (Male, 20, UK)

Yeh im kinda glad my hairline is still intact.... the only thing i dont have anymore is the little V in the centre, although i can see thin blonde hairs there now, so i may get it back.
 
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Re: winterheartlee's story - (Male, 20, UK)

Ok.... so my fincar order came through today....
First of all, how the hell do you cut it into 5 pieces successfully? lol Mine just kinda fell apart...
But anyway, ive taken some pictures so i can measure the improvement....
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My hair is pretty short here, i did have it cut to a zero just over 2 weeks ago, ill prob let it grow out a bit for a few months whilst the finasteride takes affect..... and then maybe cut it to about this short again so i can take some more pics and really see if theres been any improvement....

Wish me luck...
 

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JDW

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Re: winterheartlee's story-(Male, 20, UK) EDIT: Day 1 of fincar

good luck with this, will be interesting to see how it works out...
When I waws on finasteride I used a pill cutter to cut them out...always hard to get a decent distribution of size though.
 
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Re: winterheartlee's story-(Male, 20, UK) EDIT: Day 1 of fincar

hmm ive never seen a pil cutter, ill ask in boots or something...
I hope they dont think im a druggy though :p
 

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Re: winterheartlee's story-(Male, 20, UK) EDIT: Day 1 of fincar

Hi,

i live in the UK and i have only heard about minoxidil and propecia. All these other treatments seem to be more popular in the US. Did you order the other treatment from a website. I go to a specialist place in london for regular check ups and professional advice. Are you just buying your regaine from a boots chemist or something? I am on minoxidil 12.5% and propecia tablets.

Did clipping your hair short make it look better? As my personal opinion of your photos is that it does. I just have not had the guts to do it as of yet. I really want to do it and just get the laughs out the way and be done with it!
 
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Re: winterheartlee's story-(Male, 20, UK) EDIT: Day 1 of fincar

cryton said:
Hi,

i live in the UK and i have only heard about minoxidil and propecia. All these other treatments seem to be more popular in the US. Did you order the other treatment from a website. I go to a specialist place in london for regular check ups and professional advice. Are you just buying your regaine from a boots chemist or something? I am on minoxidil 12.5% and propecia tablets.

Did clipping your hair short make it look better? As my personal opinion of your photos is that it does. I just have not had the guts to do it as of yet. I really want to do it and just get the laughs out the way and be done with it!

I get my regaine from Boots (minoxidil 5%) and fincar from inhousepharmacy.com

When i had my hair cut from long to shortish... it made my hair look worse. When i had it buzzed even shorter the thinning became more apperent because when it was a few inches longer i could cover it up... but at the same time i felt better about myself for doing it, and although i could see the thinning, i could also see how much hair has grown back from the treatment.... so yeh its a good move. Im gonna keep it this length until some more hair has grown back (hopefully when the fincar kicks in) and then im gonna grow it back to a few inches long on top so i can style it.
 

cryton

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Re: winterheartlee's story-(Male, 20, UK) EDIT: Day 1 of fincar

i want to try this fincar but the place i go to in london only recommend minoxidil and propecia. i am kind of going against what they say because i am not sure it is working for me. i want to try a buzz cut so i can apply the stuff easier and watch the progress. Having my hair the way it is crap because i hate wax in it because far too much scalp is exposed and not styling it looks a mess. i am a Norwood 2 but but with thinning all over. so what grade cut do you have?
 
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Re: winterheartlee's story-(Male, 20, UK) EDIT: Day 1 of fincar

Fincar is generic Proscar which is just a higher dose of propecia that you cut into 4 or 5 pieces so you get 1.25mg or 1mg of finesteride.
So its just the same as propecia but cheaper... thats it
How long have you been taking it?
Yeh waxing or geling it just makes it look worse....
I cut my hair myself with a mens hair trimmer, i sometimes have it 6 mm ontop and 4 on the sides or sometimes i really go for it and have it 2mm ontop and 1 on sides... basically a skin head...
 

cryton

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Re: winterheartlee's story-(Male, 20, UK) EDIT: Day 1 of fincar

How much is this fincar? how long a supply do you get for the money? Propecia i get from boots is £90 for three months. i have been on propecia for nearly two years. it is hard to tell what condition your hair would end up like if you didnt take the propecia and minoxidil like i have. i do kind of think that it may have just slowed the process down. it was doing well around two months ago but have really gone down hill. i am just wondering if i am having a bit of a shed at the moment.

Have you tried this Nizoral shampoo yet?


Too much aggro for 23!
 
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cryton said:
How much is this fincar? how long a supply do you get for the money? Propecia i get from boots is £90 for three months. i have been on propecia for nearly two years. it is hard to tell what condition your hair would end up like if you didnt take the propecia and minoxidil like i have. i do kind of think that it may have just slowed the process down. it was doing well around two months ago but have really gone down hill. i am just wondering if i am having a bit of a shed at the moment.

Have you tried this Nizoral shampoo yet?


Too much aggro for 23!

You can get 4 months of Fincar for £15
Hellova difference in cost between that and propecia... but same ingredients. Just gotta cut 1 tablet into quarters. Yeh Ive started using 1% nizoral too....
lol I wish i didnt have to start doing this until i was 23... Im 20.
 

cryton

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Re: winterheartlee's story-(Male, 20, UK) EDIT: Day 1 of fincar

I started taking propecia when i was 21 so not much difference there. As i said before i go to a place in london for my minoxidil but get the propecia from boots. Isnt the fincar ment to be not approved as there is too much Finasteride levels? As propecia is medically approved for only having 1% of finasteride in it. I am just about to come to the end of my 3 month course and thinking about this fincar. I am just a little unsure what to do because i have been used to taking this treatment. This place in london dont recommend it as there is no gauging the long term effects. Most people seem to of had nut ache at some point when taking fincar (ouch!)

Will you please keep me up to date of how it goes? any side effect and so on? i know its all down to the individual. Also let me know how the nizoral goes?

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Re: winterheartlee's story-(Male, 20, UK) EDIT: Day 1 of fincar

hi fella,

how are you getting on with the fincar you order? i am due to renew my propecia but not sure whether to change it up for the cheaper option? Just worried about the higher dose and sides. You had any sides?
 
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