Why there will NEVER be a cure for baldness

[Roeysdomi]

So you believe that some of us are programmed to be bald because the human body is sensitive to the most popular androgen?

I will make it simple to you .
In your cells you have a thing called epigeanom that protect the dna.
Every time those celles replicate they lose some of the layer that protect this dna.
When the layer that protect dna is finshed everything that can damage the cells will damge them in hair its androgens .
so now you ask how some people keep their hair ? Well as always irs genetic for some people the layer of the epigenom is way longer / getting shorter slowly…
So they keep their hair protect from androgens or basicly anthing that can damage it.
Thats is also part of the reason why hairloss is also aging condition . If we will able to reverse skin condion you will have the hair of your teens.
If that intresting for you watch David sinclair . He did expirement with mice on that . Amazing

 

[mminh]

I will make it simple to you .
In your cells you have a thing called epigeanom that protect the dna.
Every time those celles replicate they lose some of the layer that protect this dna.
When the layer that protect dna is finshed everything that can damage the cells will damge them in hair its androgens .
so now you ask how some people keep their hair ? Well as always irs genetic for some people the layer of the epigenom is way longer / getting shorter slowly…
So they keep their hair protect from androgens or basicly anthing that can damage it.
Thats is also part of the reason why hairloss is also aging condition . If we will able to reverse skin condion you will have the hair of your teens.
If that intresting for you watch David sinclair . He did expirement with mice on that . Amazing

Can you make another example? that something the human body created on its own comes back to damage the cells? And do you know a study that explains the androgens damage the cell?

I know David Sinclair, watched some of his talks and he sure confident of his idea. But I believe some, not all.

 

[Armando Jose]

I will make it simple to you .
In your cells you have a thing called epigeanom that protect the dna.
Every time those celles replicate they lose some of the layer that protect this dna.
When the layer that protect dna is finshed everything that can damage the cells will damge them in hair its androgens .
so now you ask how some people keep their hair ? Well as always irs genetic for some people the layer of the epigenom is way longer / getting shorter slowly…
So they keep their hair protect from androgens or basicly anthing that can damage it.
Thats is also part of the reason why hairloss is also aging condition . If we will able to reverse skin condion you will have the hair of your teens.
If that intresting for you watch David sinclair . He did expirement with mice on that . Amazing

epigenom have a pattern in scalp hairs?

 

[Mighty]

Hairloss will have a cure. Probably not how and when most of the ppl around here would like. The best way to deal with this is move on with your life. Life isn't fair.

Now, a lot of the sci-fi stuff some ppl want here won't happen.

 

[Hairful]

Companies are not looking for a cure for baldness, but rather a slightly better version of finasteride. Perhaps in terms of safety, perhaps in terms of efficiency. This is the difficulty, to find something that will work, but at the same time, the one who accepts it will have to buy it again and again. Notice all new studies and companies are aiming for you to end up taking the drug 1-2 times a day. I haven't heard of anyone that says our goal is to cure baldness completely.

I don't think this is a conspiracy theory, it's just that those who invest money in research want to get as much profit as possible and preferably in the long run.

exactly

want to see this live? Look up the dire situation of antibiotics resistance. Big pharmas aren’t even bothering with new antibiotics research why? Because it’s not profitable. It is my field and it’s heart breaking millions of people die every year due to antibiotic resistance. The big pharma could make an effective antibiotic if they want but won’t because it’s not for lifetime use and also won’t be used by a lot of people.

look at covid vaccine. Developed in months and coronavirus isn’t an easy virus to make a vaccine for.

this is why I posted the veritasium video because it shows this problem even in lightbulb industry and many many others.

Our science has reached a point where we can cure diseases but we won’t because $$$ is a huge hinder

The deniers of this phenomenon don’t want to simply accept the reality because it’s too harsh and kills hope but that’s the truth.

A cure will come from some fringe scientist with some chance not by big pharma.

Cosmetics is a HUUGELY profitable industry. Nobody sane would kick their profits just to give some baldies hairs

 

[Feramon1]

exactly

want to see this live? Look up the dire situation of antibiotics resistance. Big pharmas aren’t even bothering with new antibiotics research why? Because it’s not profitable. It is my field and it’s heart breaking millions of people die every year due to antibiotic resistance. The big pharma could make an effective antibiotic if they want but won’t because it’s not for lifetime use and also won’t be used by a lot of people.

look at covid vaccine. Developed in months and coronavirus isn’t an easy virus to make a vaccine for.

this is why I posted the veritasium video because it shows this problem even in lightbulb industry and many many others.

Our science has reached a point where we can cure diseases but we won’t because $$$ is a huge hinder

The deniers of this phenomenon don’t want to simply accept the reality because it’s too harsh and kills hope but that’s the truth.

A cure will come from some fringe scientist with some chance not by big pharma.

Cosmetics is a HUUGELY profitable industry. Nobody sane would kick their profits just to give some baldies hairs

You are absolutely right. I wanted to use this argument with antibiotics to answer a person who called me stupid, but you beat me to it.

In fact, the problem is not only in medicine, but also in other areas, we can observe how films, games, food, building materials, education, etc. have changed. We will see the same thing everywhere, the lack of quality and the increase in quantity, unfortunately this is how capitalism works in practice. There is no place for creativity under capitalism.

I'll give you an example. Game companies release a beautiful trailer (wrapper), create a pre-order for the game, people run and make these pre-orders, the company makes a profit and releases a raw product. When users start complaining en masse, the company shows them a "roadmap", which says that they will be finalizing the game for some time, and when the negative subsides, they forget about this "roadmap" and start a new project. Just see for yourself that the same thing happens everywhere. Could this have happened in 2000?

All drugs that have been created, including finasteride, were created under socialism and democracy. Democracy is always a transitional stage to capitalism, which is why the transition was so smooth and imperceptible.

If you want a cure or finally make sure that this disease cannot be cured, you need to organize and do research yourself. Fortunately, there are plenty of smart and talented guys on the forum.

"The rescue of drowning people is the work of the drowning people themselves."

 

[HMI 115 IS THE CURE dude]

Companies are not looking for a cure for baldness, but rather a slightly better version of finasteride. Perhaps in terms of safety, perhaps in terms of efficiency. This is the difficulty, to find something that will work, but at the same time, the one who accepts it will have to buy it again and again. Notice all new studies and companies are aiming for you to end up taking the drug 1-2 times a day. I haven't heard of anyone that says our goal is to cure baldness completely.

I don't think this is a conspiracy theory, it's just that those who invest money in research want to get as much profit as possible and preferably in the long run.

You are absolutely right. I wanted to use this argument with antibiotics to answer a person who called me stupid, but you beat me to it.

In fact, the problem is not only in medicine, but also in other areas, we can observe how films, games, food, building materials, education, etc. have changed. We will see the same thing everywhere, the lack of quality and the increase in quantity, unfortunately this is how capitalism works in practice. There is no place for creativity under capitalism.

I'll give you an example. Game companies release a beautiful trailer (wrapper), create a pre-order for the game, people run and make these pre-orders, the company makes a profit and releases a raw product. When users start complaining en masse, the company shows them a "roadmap", which says that they will be finalizing the game for some time, and when the negative subsides, they forget about this "roadmap" and start a new project. Just see for yourself that the same thing happens everywhere. Could this have happened in 2000?

All drugs that have been created, including finasteride, were created under socialism and democracy. Democracy is always a transitional stage to capitalism, which is why the transition was so smooth and imperceptible.

If you want a cure or finally make sure that this disease cannot be cured, you need to organize and do research yourself. Fortunately, there are plenty of smart and talented guys on the forum.

"The rescue of drowning people is the work of the drowning people themselves."

It’s why the next best pharma treatment will come from Asian market. The problem in west is not capitalism but more so corporatism that destroy the free market and hinder innovation as you said

 

[froggy7]

"

If you want a cure or finally make sure that this disease cannot be cured, you need to organize and do research yourself. Fortunately, there are plenty of smart and talented guys on the forum."​

 

[Super Metroid]

exactly

want to see this live? Look up the dire situation of antibiotics resistance. Big pharmas aren’t even bothering with new antibiotics research why? Because it’s not profitable. It is my field and it’s heart breaking millions of people die every year due to antibiotic resistance. The big pharma could make an effective antibiotic if they want but won’t because it’s not for lifetime use and also won’t be used by a lot of people.

look at covid vaccine. Developed in months and coronavirus isn’t an easy virus to make a vaccine for.

this is why I posted the veritasium video because it shows this problem even in lightbulb industry and many many others.

Our science has reached a point where we can cure diseases but we won’t because $$$ is a huge hinder

The deniers of this phenomenon don’t want to simply accept the reality because it’s too harsh and kills hope but that’s the truth.

A cure will come from some fringe scientist with some chance not by big pharma.

Cosmetics is a HUUGELY profitable industry. Nobody sane would kick their profits just to give some baldies hairs

If you could have a 1 time cure that makes a profit of €50.000,- then why would it be preferable to have people on finasteride for 20 years which yields much less income for them overall?

 

[Roeysdomi]

Can you make another example? that something the human body created on its own comes back to damage the cells? And do you know a study that explains the androgens damage the cell?

I know David Sinclair, watched some of his talks and he sure confident of his idea. But I believe some, not all.

He already proved with the mice study

 

[-specter-]

did they manage to rejuvenate the mouse Lisa?

 

[mminh]

If you could have a 1 time cure that makes a profit of €50.000,- then why would it be preferable to have people on finasteride for 20 years which yields much less income for them overall?

The question is: Why do they take time and resources to find a cure when the products are selling so well? Finding a cure is not easy as well, they can fail and gain nothing.

Alopecia Market Size, Share & Growth Analysis Report, 2030

The global alopecia market was valued at USD 8.77 billion in 2023 and is expected to grow at a CAGR of 9.1% from 2024 to 2030

www.grandviewresearch.com

"The global alopecia market size was valued at USD 7.6 billion in 2020 and is expected to expand at a compound annual growth rate (CAGR) of 8.1% from 2021 to 2028"

He already proved with the mice study

Bro, he is a guy who sold his bio company for big bucks, and then the buyer shut down the company after a few years. I believe may be 25% of what he says. Can you link me to a study of what he did?

 

[Super Metroid]

The question is: Why do they take time and resources to find a cure when the products are selling so well? Finding a cure is not easy as well, they can fail and gain nothing.

Alopecia Market Size, Share & Growth Analysis Report, 2030

The global alopecia market was valued at USD 8.77 billion in 2023 and is expected to grow at a CAGR of 9.1% from 2024 to 2030

www.grandviewresearch.com

"The global alopecia market size was valued at USD 7.6 billion in 2020 and is expected to expand at a compound annual growth rate (CAGR) of 8.1% from 2021 to 2028"




Bro, he is a guy who sold his bio company for big bucks, and then the buyer shut down the company after a few years. I believe may be 25% of what he says. Can you link me to a study of what he did?

The question is: Why do they take time and resources to find a cure when the products are selling so well? Finding a cure is not easy as well, they can fail and gain nothing.

Alopecia Market Size, Share & Growth Analysis Report, 2030

The global alopecia market was valued at USD 8.77 billion in 2023 and is expected to grow at a CAGR of 9.1% from 2024 to 2030

www.grandviewresearch.com

"The global alopecia market size was valued at USD 7.6 billion in 2020 and is expected to expand at a compound annual growth rate (CAGR) of 8.1% from 2021 to 2028"




Bro, he is a guy who sold his bio company for big bucks, and then the buyer shut down the company after a few years. I believe may be 25% of what he says. Can you link me to a study of what he did?

Bro, please read your own link. Only a portion of the "alopecia market" is related to alopecia androgenetica. And the piece that is also includes hair transplants, wigs and other.

The market for finasteride is around 120M globally (https://www.gminsights.com/industry-analysis/finasteride-market). (Generic) Propecia treatment costs around 50 cent daily. That is around $180 a year. Let's say somebody is non-stop on it for 20 years, that is still around $3600,- of which maybe half is profit.

We are talking about exceedingly low amounts of money. I find the idea that we can't move ahead because "Big Fina" is secretly blocking progress laughable. There is almost no money in it.

A real cure, such as cloning, just isn't that easy.

 

[mminh]

Bro, please read your own link. Only a portion of the "alopecia market" is related to alopecia androgenetica. And the piece that is also includes hair transplants, wigs and other.

The market for finasteride is around 120M globally (https://www.gminsights.com/industry-analysis/finasteride-market). (Generic) Propecia treatment costs around 50 cent daily. That is around $180 a year. Let's say somebody is non-stop on it for 20 years, that is still around $3600,- of which maybe half is profit.

We are talking about exceedingly low amounts of money. I find the idea that we can't move ahead because "Big Fina" is secretly blocking progress laughable. There is almost no money in it.

A real cure, such as cloning, just isn't that easy.

That is exactly what I want to talk about. The products include hair transplants, wigs and others, not only finasteride. The idea is people need to rely on the products and continue to buy them. You can see this industry direction, all new research are things you need to continue to buy or treated. Hair cloning is not a real cure if you must do it repeatedly.

 

[kiwi666]

This is retard content.

 

[HMI 115 IS THE CURE dude]

Bro, please read your own link. Only a portion of the "alopecia market" is related to alopecia androgenetica. And the piece that is also includes hair transplants, wigs and other.

The market for finasteride is around 120M globally (https://www.gminsights.com/industry-analysis/finasteride-market). (Generic) Propecia treatment costs around 50 cent daily. That is around $180 a year. Let's say somebody is non-stop on it for 20 years, that is still around $3600,- of which maybe half is profit.

We are talking about exceedingly low amounts of money. I find the idea that we can't move ahead because "Big Fina" is secretly blocking progress laughable. There is almost no money in it.

A real cure, such as cloning, just isn't that easy.

There is still a massive market of users taking brand name propecia but overall I agree with you

 

[Roeysdomi]

The question is: Why do they take time and resources to find a cure when the products are selling so well? Finding a cure is not easy as well, they can fail and gain nothing.

Alopecia Market Size, Share & Growth Analysis Report, 2030

The global alopecia market was valued at USD 8.77 billion in 2023 and is expected to grow at a CAGR of 9.1% from 2024 to 2030

www.grandviewresearch.com

"The global alopecia market size was valued at USD 7.6 billion in 2020 and is expected to expand at a compound annual growth rate (CAGR) of 8.1% from 2021 to 2028"




Bro, he is a guy who sold his bio company for big bucks, and then the buyer shut down the company after a few years. I believe may be 25% of what he says. Can you link me to a study of what he did?

David sincalier is now doing clinical trails for drug that might help reverse againg please do a better research .

 

[pegasus2]

David sincalier is now doing clinical trails for drug that might help reverse againg please do a better research .

His entire career has been built on promoting SIRT1 and NAD with resveratrol and NMN. I can buy both of those at GNC for years already. When is he going to have something new?

 

[Roeysdomi]

His entire career has been built on promoting SIRT1 and NAD with resveratrol and NMN. I can buy both of those at GNC for years already. When is he going to have something new?

As with everything , the bigger its is , the harder it is to achive , he will get there soon .
Aging is pretty much the source of most of the health problem in human . Solving that is solving like 85% of our health problems.
Its big , and probably will be the most expensive treatment we will have .
Keep track on david he is amazing

 

[pegasus2]

David is mostly a con man. I have a lot more faith in Altos Labs to actually accomplish anything.