Why Does Balding Wasn't A Thing 20 Years Ago?

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Also they ate homemade meals, not McDonalds or Chinese takeaway which are now on every corner. MSG, sugar, all increase inflammation.

Uh no. I was a kid in the 70s and a teenager in the 80s. We pretty much ate junk food everyday. McDonalds and the mall food courts are where we hung out after spending hours playing pinball and video games. If anything, people are more conscious of healthy eating than ever before.
Plenty of guys were thinning in high school.
Most of my friends from back then are bald now or Norwood 3+. I managed to keep mine and sometimes feel a bit guilty. I just developed a minor crown thinning in the last 5 years but saved it with topical finasteride and minoxidil. Its genetic. IMO
 

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I also don't have time to dig into vegan diets right now. I frankly don't care enough, as I'm not going vegan regardless, but if you're truly interested look for impartial studies and let us know.
"I don't have time to back up my retarded statements, I'm not going to become an ethical person regardless, you should do the work for me."

Androgenic alopecia is genetic. Hence the name, ANDROGENIC ALOPECIA. f*****g dipshits. And funny how none of you retards can even provide a study that baldness is getting more common, let alone any of your asinine theories as to why. Have you ever looked at old pictures? Hell, even looked at old portraits? People went bald all the time. I get that people want to blame something - anything - but their sh*t genetics, but it really is all in your genes. It's not masturbation, and it sure as hell isn't because millions of people suddenly grew a conscience and went vegan. Jesus Christ.
 

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What people don't understand also is that we reached the peak of humanity, we are 8 f*****g billion, i mean isn't that making us see more balding and bald people? Take a look at how much Earth's population grew by years.

The only thing that keeps drawing my attention is the fact that i think and notice more and more younger dudes with advanced balding and from what i saw in the past, at least from my own experiences and what my eyes saw, real life, pictures bla bla, there were more rare or maybe i haven't payed so much attention to it, maybe social media and the internet is bringing it more to the light who knows, without some proper studies done on it i doubt we will ever know..
 
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It's estimated to be 75-80% genetic, not 100%. That means there are environmental factors too, and some people who are genetically on the precipice can tip the scales with environmental factors. But you call us retards.:rolleyes:

I guess you do not have time to back up that claim either?
 

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So many things wrong with this thread.

OP based people going bald sooner today based off a photo of his father. You guys (most) are basing it off the amount of people you saw in college go bald. Before we start quoting studies on this and that you’d have to have data that people are actually going bald sooner otherwise what is your evidence really supporting.

Nevertheless, on the notion that bald is indeed happening sooner to debunk to misconceptions.

1) masturbation? Indeed could cause DHT spikes. But saying that we masturbate more now than before is simply nonesense. You can argue wide-stream of p**rn but you think that motivates people to masturbate more often? Probably not. Not to mention people had more “free” time back then as suppose to now. Also average offspring size has definitely decreased showing less sex prone families.

2) Nutrition? Definitely not. People are more knowledgeable about foods and effects today more than ever. People nowadays argue over which food to eat and what is better when before they didnt have a choice but to eat what was available or starve implying many nutrient deficiency.

Last point. Consider the outpour of media and acceptance of going bald now a days. You generally see it more because you overall see more. You’re glued to your phone and movies and news and being so caught up in hairloss as is you take note “oh bald guy there bald guy here” must be a lot more bald everywhere.

no numbers, cant support
 

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So many things wrong with this thread.

OP based people going bald sooner today based off a photo of his father. You guys (most) are basing it off the amount of people you saw in college go bald. Before we start quoting studies on this and that you’d have to have data that people are actually going bald sooner otherwise what is your evidence really supporting.

Nevertheless, on the notion that bald is indeed happening sooner to debunk to misconceptions.

1) masturbation? Indeed could cause DHT spikes. But saying that we masturbate more now than before is simply nonesense. You can argue wide-stream of p**rn but you think that motivates people to masturbate more often? Probably not. Not to mention people had more “free” time back then as suppose to now. Also average offspring size has definitely decreased showing less sex prone families.

2) Nutrition? Definitely not. People are more knowledgeable about foods and effects today more than ever. People nowadays argue over which food to eat and what is better when before they didnt have a choice but to eat what was available or starve implying many nutrient deficiency.

Last point. Consider the outpour of media and acceptance of going bald now a days. You generally see it more because you overall see more. You’re glued to your phone and movies and news and being so caught up in hairloss as is you take note “oh bald guy there bald guy here” must be a lot more bald everywhere.

no numbers, cant support

A-men.
 

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So many things wrong with this thread.

OP based people going bald sooner today based off a photo of his father. You guys (most) are basing it off the amount of people you saw in college go bald. Before we start quoting studies on this and that you’d have to have data that people are actually going bald sooner otherwise what is your evidence really supporting.

Nevertheless, on the notion that bald is indeed happening sooner to debunk to misconceptions.

1) masturbation? Indeed could cause DHT spikes. But saying that we masturbate more now than before is simply nonesense. You can argue wide-stream of p**rn but you think that motivates people to masturbate more often? Probably not. Not to mention people had more “free” time back then as suppose to now. Also average offspring size has definitely decreased showing less sex prone families.

2) Nutrition? Definitely not. People are more knowledgeable about foods and effects today more than ever. People nowadays argue over which food to eat and what is better when before they didnt have a choice but to eat what was available or starve implying many nutrient deficiency.

Last point. Consider the outpour of media and acceptance of going bald now a days. You generally see it more because you overall see more. You’re glued to your phone and movies and news and being so caught up in hairloss as is you take note “oh bald guy there bald guy here” must be a lot more bald everywhere.

no numbers, cant support
You have to agree the over consumption of sugar today is highly significant. What the food producers have done is removed the fat and injected every “fat free” product with sugar. It’s been proven high insulin (main anabolic hormone) is bad for hair and a cause of it falling out.
 

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You have to agree the over consumption of sugar today is highly significant. What the food producers have done is removed the fat and injected every “fat free” product with sugar. It’s been proven high insulin (main anabolic hormone) is bad for hair and a cause of it falling out.

honestly I personally do not know much about sugar content compared to years before. But on a case study basis, I definitely been around a lot of sugar-loving freaks. I feel like theres good data out there about this.
 

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Research suggests that p**rn addicts spend at least 11 or 12 hours per week looking at p**rn. (Usually most if not all of that time is spent online). Many addicts dedicate double or even triple that amount of time to pornography.

In fact, research tells us that p**rn use progresses to the level of addiction in approximately 5 to 8 percent of adults who use it.

https://www.recoveryranch.com/addiction-blog/addicted-to-p**rn/


In terms of basic results, they found that 73 percent of women and 98 percent of men reported internet p**rn use in the last six months
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/experimentations/201802/when-is-p**rn-use-problem

I have never known anyone who uses heroin, at least that I know of, but I know millions of people do. Just because you don't watch a lot of p**rn that doesn't mean there's not a significant number of people who do. According to these statistics 98% of men watch p**rn, and 5% of those will develop an addiction and spend at least 11-12 hours per week watching p**rn, with spending double or triple that time. 98% out of 151.8 million men in America is 147,764,000 men who watch p**rn. At least 5% of those are addicted. That's 7,438,200 men watching at least 11 hours of p**rn/week.

You literally did all that for absolutely nothing. What does this show? How does this relate? You have no baseline of comparison, how are we suppose to know percentage of people addicted to playboy magazines? Hours spent trying to acquire the magazine and “addiction” rates? How about intercourse rates? How prevalent is p**rn to ejaculation (i.e. DHT spike due to intercourse). We get it people watch p**rn, when did we say otherwise? Thanks for finding stats to convey that to us.

Onto your food and nutrition point. You precisely echo’d my post when I said people argue over what food others are eating. Im sure eating McDonalds everyday is much worse than eating nothing for your follicles (sarcasm).

The world has made great progress in reducing hunger: There are 216 million fewer hungry people than in 1990-92, despite a 1.9 billion increase in the world’s population.

https://www.foodaidfoundation.org/world-hunger-statistics.html


This is the problem with google. Its only as good as the bot behind the keyboard using it.

edit: did ya really compare heroin rates to p**rn rates?

 
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Yeah, I'm sure people spent 36 hours a week looking at Playboy magazine back in the day. I can't argue with those smarts.

You're not even making a relevant point. Nobody is talking about Africa and South America, but I'll go ahead and tell you that not eating is not as bad for hair as diabetes. In the USA and Europe nobody has been starving since the Great Depression. God you're dumb.

You cited 2 whole *** links and 3 whole *** quotes to tell us people watch p**rn. Who’s really the retard? You literally have no f*****g clue what they were doing back in the day.

36 hours a week of p**rn? Where exactly did you cite that one from. Lmfao. To sum up youre whole 4 paragraphs in 1 sentence... 98% men watch p**rn, 5% become addicts, of the 5% 11-12/hrs a week of p**rn is watched. Where’d you pull the 36hrs from? You know who spends 36 hours a week on p**rn? The f*****g people involved in the industry who do it as a daily job.

Quit going around calling people dumb, you’re deadass the most moronic person on this forum going around sharing your “research” links and citations like a headless sheep.

edit: there’s no chance you majored in anything analytical based, your understanding of statistics and relevance is piss poor.

edit: did u really just say diabetes is worse on hair than NOT EATING. There’s no way the mouse in your head is running correctly.

edit cuz i started lol: did u pull out your calculator to calculate those million digit figures at the end of your citation post? lolololololol
 
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Research suggests that p**rn addicts spend at least 11 or 12 hours per week looking at p**rn. (Usually most if not all of that time is spent online). Many addicts dedicate double or even triple that amount of time to pornography.

In fact, research tells us that p**rn use progresses to the level of addiction in approximately 5 to 8 percent of adults who use it.

https://www.recoveryranch.com/addiction-blog/addicted-to-p**rn/


In terms of basic results, they found that 73 percent of women and 98 percent of men reported internet p**rn use in the last six months
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/experimentations/201802/when-is-p**rn-use-problem

I have never known anyone who uses heroin, at least that I know of, but I know millions of people do. Just because you don't watch a lot of p**rn that doesn't mean there's not a significant number of people who do. According to these statistics 98% of men watch p**rn, and 5% of those will develop an addiction and spend at least 11-12 hours per week watching p**rn, with spending double or triple that time. 98% out of 151.8 million men in America is 147,764,000 men who watch p**rn. At least 5% of those are addicted. That's 7,438,200 men watching at least 11 hours of p**rn/week.

A week has 168 hrs so the 5% of the 98% of the men who watch p**rn still only watch p**rn 7% of the time on a weekly basis.

So less then 5% of the men have their DHT raised slightly 7% of the time... Do you know see how negligible this is? Then I am not even talking about the fact that the study probably only used young men in their sample, which means that on a population level this will become even more insignificant. Btw I can't even find the study that says that masturbation increases DHT levels...
 

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I refuse to believe diet has anything to do with hair loss.

I see so many people around me and friends eating 10 times worse than me, smoking all the time and drinking too, and have full hair of heads, while I'm out here living as healthy as possible, never smoked in my life, barely drank alcohol, and barely eat sugar at all, and I'm 28 with massive diffused hair.

tons of people nowadays eat so much sugary and processed foods and yet most people don't have any significant hair loss until they are older.

it's easy to blame everything on diet just so you can feel better about your sh*t genetics.

I love it, like all the family doctors who tell you "don't smoke don't drink alcohol" to whatever health issue you have and they have no idea why it is happening, modern health don't have the answers to everything, but blaming every health/condition that is unknown on diet/alcohol and smoking is just retarded, yes they affect your overall health, but it doesn't mean they have any effect on every condition you have.
 

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I refuse to believe diet has anything to do with hair loss.

I see so many people around me and friends eating 10 times worse than me, smoking all the time and drinking too, and have full hair of heads, while I'm out here living as healthy as possible, never smoked in my life, barely drank alcohol, and barely eat sugar at all, and I'm 28 with massive diffused hair.

tons of people nowadays eat so much sugary and processed foods and yet most people don't have any significant hair loss until they are older.

it's easy to blame everything on diet just so you can feel better about your sh*t genetics.

I love it, like all the family doctors who tell you "don't smoke don't drink alcohol" to whatever health issue you have and they have no idea why it is happening, modern health don't have the answers to everything, but blaming every health/condition that is unknown on diet/alcohol and smoking is just retarded, yes they affect your overall health, but it doesn't mean they have any effect on every condition you have.

indeed, I agree.

The reasoning you provided is a case study basis so it doesn’t mean much. But until someone provides controlled experiments and data to say nutrition affects hair loss to a vast degree, its nonsense for the reasons you provided. I too know a kid who weighs 110lbs, above 6 feet, and his diet consists of solely sugar - like only hard candy every single day. And his hair goes down to his back.

edit: another great case study... Lebron James... lmfaooo
 

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Diet, look the amount of Soy based ingredients are in food which has an impact on our estrogen levels. Shampoos with SLS etc too.
 

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I don't know what the science would be behind the p**rn watching, but I'll tell you one thing - I have male pattern baldness genes on both sides of the family, I smoke, I drink, and have not lived the most healthy lifestyle. But my hair only began to thin at 32, even now at 35 its still ok-ish. But the only computer I had access to as a kid was the family computer in the kitchen on dial up connection, until I got my own laptop and went to university at 19.

If I had access to a private infinite high speed p**rn machine as a kid, I have a feeling I would have been a diffuse NW4 at 22 years old, I would probably be dead by now.
That is because hair loss is genetic for the most part. Yes, all the factors stated in the thread do play a role. However, this role is far less significant than what is portrayed here.
As for the extreme cases (i.e. jerking off 32 hours a day), the impact is much higher but is up for debate for how impactful it is.
 

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You all really think masturbation increases balding?

I'm 99% certain it contributed, in my case. Never touched p**rn, until early 20s when I was living on my own and access to high speed DSL without scrutiny. Started balding at 25.
 

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I'm 99% certain it contributed, in my case. Never touched p**rn, until early 20s when I was living on my own and access to high speed DSL without scrutiny. Started balding at 25.

25? You mean 25 as in the average age for men to start balding?

I started to doing long distance running around the same age as I started to develop pubic hair. I am 99% certain long distance running contributed to me getting pubic hair, in my case.
 

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25? You mean 25 as in the average age for men to start balding?

I started to doing long distance running around the same age as I started to develop pubic hair. I am 99% certain long distance running contributed to me getting pubic hair, in my case.

Pubes and baldness are linked to DHT. And funny enough, Finasteride and Dutasteride inhibit DHT. Hmm...
 
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