What life was like before I started winning....

Oknow

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I was

- A NW1
- In my mid-late 20s
- complaining to @DoctorHouse daily
- very skinny, geeky, Indian
- at the start of my career earning sh*t money

Dating

- paid for dating coaches, over 1k got 0 dates
- 0 dates between 25-29
- lost virginity late at 23 to a very fat woman

Mindset

- obsessed over the slightest recession
- insecure had no believe in myself, thought I was undatable
- basement dweller, didn’t like going out
- socially awkward
- limiting beliefs , looks, race etc

How women and people treated me

- invisible, once went to a club 150 women ignored me in one night - @doubleindemnity you would have a break down if that happened to you

- women upon approaching them, would display very negative body language before opening my mouth

- emotionally abused, people talking to me in a demeaning way, making snarky remarks over my ability to pull, for example had one person say,

‘you are a good dresser, too bad about your face’

- when I did finally start going on some dates, lots of 1st dates that lead to nowhere. There was always a lack of chemistry.

- tried hobbies, meetups etc met lots of people / women, many felt sorry for me as opposed to genuinely being interested

- other guys getting a lot more attention, I was in situations where women would befriend me to pull my friend

Now, fast forward into my 30s

- having sex on first dates, with women younger than me (20s/early 30s)
- being in a position to reject women
- doing well in my career and earning x3
- more dates that go past the first date
- in best shape of my life
- get told I’m handsome
- NW2

Mindset / Style

- better understanding on how to sell myself. I have a masculine energy and vibe which I play on that women find attractive

Moral of the story

you reap what you sow

I have worked hard to get to this stage of my life , everyone that is successful does

if you think hair is the magic bullet, you will be in for a rude awakening
 
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DoctorHouse

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I was

- A NW1
- In my mid-late 20s
- complaining to @DoctorHouse daily
- very skinny, geeky, Indian
- at the start of my career earning sh*t money

Dating

- paid for dating coaches, over 1k got 0 dates
- 0 dates between 25-29
- lost virginity late at 23 to a very fat woman

Mindset

- obsessed over the slightest recession
- insecure had no believe in myself, thought I was undatable
- basement dweller, didn’t like going out
- socially awkward
- limiting beliefs , looks, race etc

How women and people treated me

- invisible, once went to a club 150 women ignored me in one night - @doubleindemnity you would have a break down if that happened to you

- women upon approaching them, would display very negative body language before opening my mouth

- emotionally abused, people talking to me in a demeaning way, making snarky remarks over my ability to pull, for example had one person say,

‘you are a good dresser, too bad about your face’

- when I did finally start going on some dates, lots of 1st dates that lead to nowhere. There was always a lack of chemistry.

- tried hobbies, meetups etc met lots of people / women, many felt sorry for me as opposed to genuinely being interested

- other guys getting a lot more attention, I was in situations where women would befriend me to pull my friend

Now, fast forward into my 30s

- having sex on first dates, with women younger than me (20s/early 30s)
- being in a position to reject women
- doing well in my career and earning x3
- more dates that go past the first date
- in best shape of my life
- get told I’m handsome
- NW2

Mindset / Style

- better understanding on how to sell myself. I have a masculine energy and vibe which I play on that women find attractive

Moral of the story

you reap what you sow

I have worked hard to get to this stage of my life , everyone that is successful does

if you think hair is the magic bullet, you will be in for a rude awakening
Between you and @irishpride86, my PM box was full all the time back then. LOL! Still both full heads after more than a decade.
 

doubleindemnity

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I had a big post in mind but I'm not going to dismantle. I have other stuff that I have planned to do today. I just want to set up my hair transplant and give it my best shot at getting off here. And although I disagree with your big post, who am I to denigrate somebody? I'm a bald loser and my opinion doesn't matter. Indeed if I am arguing with anybody, they can just say "yeah but you're bald" and they win the argument 100%. But this one thing

- invisible, once went to a club 150 women ignored me in one night - @doubleindemnity you would have a break down if that happened to you
This can't be true. Whenever I go out approaching, my numbers are 5 approaches per hour. Even when I was out with an advanced guy, we both hit approx. 5 approaches per hour even when we kept going for hours. Now I can believe somebody doubling that to 10 per hour but not more than that. So 150 in one night is an impossibility; it reminds me of the dating coach who said that he would go out to clubs 6 days per week and do 80 approaches per night for a year. There aren't enough people in the city for that. And I did have near breakdowns over stuff like that. You know that I always think about how things can go wrong, not right, for me. Also please respond to my PM about your treatments.
 

Oknow

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I had a big post in mind but I'm not going to dismantle. I have other stuff that I have planned to do today. I just want to set up my hair transplant and give it my best shot at getting off here. And although I disagree with your big post, who am I to denigrate somebody? I'm a bald loser and my opinion doesn't matter. Indeed if I am arguing with anybody, they can just say "yeah but you're bald" and they win the argument 100%. But this one thing


This can't be true. Whenever I go out approaching, my numbers are 5 approaches per hour. Even when I was out with an advanced guy, we both hit approx. 5 approaches per hour even when we kept going for hours. Now I can believe somebody doubling that to 10 per hour but not more than that. So 150 in one night is an impossibility; it reminds me of the dating coach who said that he would go out to clubs 6 days per week and do 80 approaches per night for a year. There aren't enough people in the city for that. And I did have near breakdowns over stuff like that. You know that I always think about how things can go wrong, not right, for me. Also please respond to my PM about your treatments.

maybe I exaggerated a bit but pretty much very woman in the club
 

Norwoodcel

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what country do you live?

do you so daygame? what is your opening line?
 

vondoom

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ID, please...
want to see who is winning the “i am uglier than you” battle and also if you are really older than 16...
 

vondoom

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can confirm the club rejection, though...
i go to normal clubs, mainstream music and women and dudes and i dont score at all... zero, never did, never will...

i go to places with normal people, preferably into art/music, no big deal at all...
it also depends on where you are going... if you look out of place, act out of place and so on...
 
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