Varieting Propecia Dosage ; Is There Any Risk?

michel sapin

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i know that if you take less than 1 mg per day it is pointless. But is ther any risk if you take 1 mg morning and 2 mg at night for exemple ?
or if you take several 0,5 mg during the day every 6 hour and 2 mg before bed ? thx
 

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Why would you even do this in the first place?

Why?

Take 1 mg per day.

Go on with your life.
 

IggyPop

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I can´t answer your question, but many people have lost ground after they started playing around with dosages.
 

michel sapin

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because 1 mg doesnt stop my hairline recession . I just keep miniaturizing. And my dht is really low so i can't risk dutasteride
 

michel sapin

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this is wha i did in the beginning , took 1 mg and thought i would be saved . But 2 years later i am way below baseline . I am one of the few unlucky on propecia , i have added rogaine but that is not the solution
 

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this is wha i did in the beginning , took 1 mg and thought i would be saved . But 2 years later i am way below baseline . I am one of the few unlucky on propecia , i have added rogaine but that is not the solution
Sorry to hear that, but all I know is, that the difference between 1mg and 3mg is not that big. Don´t know whether it would work for you. RU is not an option? Or some other topical?
 

michel sapin

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i don't believe in RU , i have i have already bought it and made it test and it was fake . I don't trust some shady chemical
 

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because 1 mg doesnt stop my hairline recession . I just keep miniaturizing. And my dht is really low so i can't risk dutasteride

So you dont want to risk dutasteride because of low dht but you want to take more finasteride in the hopes that it lowers your dht more? Or am i missing something
 

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because this is not serum dht which is important but scalp dht . 1 mg finasteride inhibit 68 % serum dht and maybe 30% scalp dht . 5 mg finasteride inhibit almost the same amount of serum dht but more scalp dht so more powerful. and duta inhibit 90 % of serum dht and 50 % scalp dht . So yes duta is more powerul but cause more sides .
The thing is that i believe with dht inhibitor you need to reach a certain point of inhibition to stop further balding .

And maybe for me the inhibiton of 1 mg is not enough, but i don't want to risk too much sides with too much inhibition . So maybe i need 2 or 3 % more inhibition too reach this point where the medicine works . It is a balance to find between the sides and the efficacity.
 

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because this is not serum dht which is important but scalp dht . 1 mg finasteride inhibit 68 % serum dht and maybe 30% scalp dht . 5 mg finasteride inhibit almost the same amount of serum dht but more scalp dht so more powerful. and duta inhibit 90 % of serum dht and 50 % scalp dht . So yes duta is more powerul but cause more sides .
The thing is that i believe with dht inhibitor you need to reach a certain point of inhibition to stop further balding .

And maybe for me the inhibiton of 1 mg is not enough, but i don't want to risk too much sides with too much inhibition . So maybe i need 2 or 3 % more inhibition too reach this point where the medicine works . It is a balance to find between the sides and the efficacity.

1mg gets rid of more than 30% scalp dht, the difference between 1mg and 5mg in this study was only about 5%, with 1mg being 64% and 5mg being 69%
 

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I still think you have no basis to claim that low dht has to be a bad thing, and that your sides in fina was because of low dht. I know you are a perfectionist but you really DO worry too much also. Remember what the transgender guy said, no dht and very low T but the dick was working perfectly. I bet my own dht is really low now and no negative sides from duta, that and what many others report clearly twll me that low dht is not a automatically a bad thing.

And yes you can vary fina dosage to your liking but dont reduce the average daily intake too much when the effect it has on you is already so low.
 

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So you dont want to risk dutasteride because of low dht but you want to take more finasteride in the hopes that it lowers your dht more? Or am i missing something
He is a complicated guy, considering a lot of factors and weigh them in many ways, too much for others to follow his line of reasoning but it looks like he has control.
 

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1mg gets rid of more than 30% scalp dht, the difference between 1mg and 5mg in this study was only about 5%, with 1mg being 64% and 5mg being 69%
We know all that but real world users arent falling in line in large numbers to confirm that low doses make any miracles.
 

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because this is not serum dht which is important but scalp dht . 1 mg finasteride inhibit 68 % serum dht and maybe 30% scalp dht . 5 mg finasteride inhibit almost the same amount of serum dht but more scalp dht so more powerful. and duta inhibit 90 % of serum dht and 50 % scalp dht . So yes duta is more powerul but cause more sides .
The thing is that i believe with dht inhibitor you need to reach a certain point of inhibition to stop further balding .

And maybe for me the inhibiton of 1 mg is not enough, but i don't want to risk too much sides with too much inhibition . So maybe i need 2 or 3 % more inhibition too reach this point where the medicine works . It is a balance to find between the sides and the efficacity.
Thats basically what i think too (have to reach a point) but right now microdosing is the big hype so suggesting that fina has a large plateau that we have to overcome is very unpopular.

Again, duta sides, not proven. If low serum dht causes all the sides then duta should be truly horrible but were not seeing it.
 

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We know all that but real world users arent falling in line in large numbers to confirm that low doses make any miracles.

If anyone is interested, I believe this a summary of the early Merck trials in 1998.
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michel sapin

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thanks horunger and diffuse thinner . So that confirms my thought that 5 mg is better than 1 mg might be better in term of haircount. however i see this is after 12 month for the 5 mg and 6 month for the 1 mg . Maybe at 12 month the 1 mg reach the same haircount ?
ther was a theory on hairlosshelp which claimed that duta might be better in the short term but after 2 year fina and duta reach the same point .
but this is sure you need to reach this certain point of dht inhibition to stop the baldness trigger. do you know if they sell 0,1 mg cap of duta like in japan?

and horunger it would be great if low dht cause no side .MAybe you are right , but don't you think in term of gyno this is caused by a deprivation of androgen in the chest tissue , caused by long term depletion of serum dht? i am pretty sure doctor prescribed dht cream in term of gyno . i also know perfectly the power of the brain , and i am a guy who is easily worried , so that is a factor in term of ED.
 

michel sapin

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you kow horunger maybe you are right about dht and side effect , because if you compare al the clinical studies about duta 0,5 mg and fina 5 mg fina show more sides despirte inhibiting less dht .
I don't wan't to have any regret , because i know tht duta will work better , but in other hand , i don't want to have a gyno and there is the possible cure in the next years . that is a harsh dillemma .
But one thing is sure i will never stop fina .
 

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stop fina before duta. Anyway i been debating with myself if i should reduce the duta dosage to save on the few trays of duta i have left and reduce potential sides that could come later but decided to keep taking full or almost full dose and go back to Manila in 3 weeks (insanely cheap tickets from EU via istanbul and kuwait) so i can leave my last duta supply at home and bring more from Manila, supply will not be an issue for a while, meaning i will not do a precautionary dosage reduction, will keep taking the full 0.5mg a day for as long as i can.
 
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