Update From The God Himself - Dr. Takashi Tsuji

Keratinpro

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It does, there are several hair transplant robots, but they just are not that good yet. Most clinics do maximally 2.500 grafts or so (depends on the clinic or course) per day, so if you are talking about 50.000 grafts (or are they hairs?) it would mean 20 working days worth of being transplanted. Lets be honest, nobody in their right mind would undergo that, besides, if you are going to pack such high densities, at a certain moment the clinicians will have difficulty to place the hairs / grafts. It makes sense to develop an AI which can do the work better and faster (and cheaper).
What are your thoughts on the future of Stemson and what their prices would potentially look like?
 

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What are your thoughts on the future of Stemson and what their prices would potentially look like?

I have no technical expertise of any of these projects, but it seems that they are well funded. So at least investors seem to think they have a good shot at commercialization. I like that they seem to have a focus on hair loss, where Shiseido and RIKEN / Tsuji are busy with a whole range of products, with a hair loss treatment being one of the many.

Regarding the price I am similarly clueless, but I wouldn't bet too much on the fact that they suggested it would be in the 30-50k range. That could also be a tactic to keep people interested. If you, like Tsuji, start to drop prices of half a million, the market loses interest.
 

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I have no technical expertise of any of these projects, but it seems that they are well funded. So at least investors seem to think they have a good shot at commercialization. I like that they seem to have a focus on hair loss, where Shiseido and RIKEN / Tsuji are busy with a whole range of products, with a hair loss treatment being one of the many.

Regarding the price I am similarly clueless, but I wouldn't bet too much on the fact that they suggested it would be in the 30-50k range. That could also be a tactic to keep people interested. If you, like Tsuji, start to drop prices of half a million, the market loses interest.
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Hate to say it, but this is some bullshit. First they were going to offer the treatment in 2020, then they were going to start human trials by then instead and now here we are and Tsuji is begging for millions of dollars to start human trials. f*****g hell
 

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With 10k graft you can get good isllusion of head full of hair.
Most man have at max 8k grafts as a donor from the occipital area so the back looks still kinda NOT 'overharvested'.

Btw, to all, what if your occipital hair is thinning as well and Androgenetic Alopecia leads to nearly alopecia totalis (case of my dad and other man in my family)?
I wonder if current stem cell projects will help out here, in VERY aggressive cases.
 

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10k grafts is 20-25k hairs so it's closer to 50%.
I only used that number because Tsuji specifically said in his answer that a 50k graft session would take 25 hours. I'd assume that's his example of NW7 -> NW1 and what he's quoting those prices on.
 

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I only used that number because Tsuji specifically said in his answer that a 50k graft session would take 25 hours. I'd assume that's his example of NW7 -> NW1.
At this point tsuji is behind stemson i dont get the point of thinking abiut tsuji anymore :(
 

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You need much less than 100k transplanted hair to cover ur head. On average we have 100k hair in total considering also the sides and the back. you are most likely gonna lose only the hair on the top of your head, so it's gonna e around 40k? For full density
All the donor zone is around 40k. Graft.
But again with 10-12k graft zarev mange to show pretty much good result.
 

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I only used that number because Tsuji specifically said in his answer that a 50k graft session would take 25 hours. I'd assume that's his example of NW7 -> NW1 and what he's quoting those prices on.
He's talking about 50k hairs not follicular units
 

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He's talking about 50k hairs not follicular units
Ah fair enough. I guess I just assumed 50k sounded about right because right now with huge transplants of 8-10k grafts you're still only achieving 30-50% natural density in most places, some even less.
 

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50k hair on the top of your head is probably higher than your natural density, that would be so good
 

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Yes and Youngjet Said that Tsuji will commercialize in 2020-2021 so he is a f*****g liar!!!
You don't know what the word liar means. All he did was tell us what he was told. How was he supposed to know Organ Tech would go bankrupt?
 
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