s.a.f said:
[quote="Bald Dave":3utweuxm]
I have to disagree. I think people are better off now (working class people) than they was under the tories. Like i said before many people have short memories of the destruction the tories did to this country. I agree there is alot of spongers but there are also lots of people that want to work for a decent wage. Labour brought in the minimum wage to stop the rich from exploiting the working classes. Would you want to work for £2 an hour? Under the tories people was working there asses off for £2 an hour.
Lets wait and see what happens and i will be the first to say i told you so.
LOL!!
When were people working for £2 an hour Dave? 1974? When the minimum wage was introduced I was a teenage student working in a supermarket and already was earning more than it. You make it sound like Britain was full of 3rd world sweat shops.
I remeber when Labour came to power aswell back when people could afford to get on the property Ladder and had pensions that were worth something so they could retire.
Now after 13 yrs of Labour - Wars/Recession what have we got? a broken down society and a loss of the British way of Life. The Banks have collapsed and everyone is up to their eyeballs in debt! Crime is up punishment is down and our companies are worthless by comparison to what they were.
The only people being exploited now are the people who pay taxes.
And as for the working man you clearly dont know what your on about since we have been swamped with mass immigration benifits and decent pay has gone out of the window for workers at the lower end of the scale since employers know that they can get foriegners to work for much less pay and worse conditions than British people will put up with. Exactly how old were you when we last had a conservative government?
I'm sure things will seem to get worse but simply because we have to bring this all to a haklt and take some drastic measures to reign in the economy that has been spiralling for years with no one at the helm.[/quote:3utweuxm]
Well my mum worked as a school cleaner during the early nineties and she was getting £2 an hour. The minimum wage is now £5.80 which is still low but it shows that big companies can't exploit workers like cleaners and pay them peanuts.
You cannot blame Labour for the world's economic callapse as i bet my *** that we would be in even bigger sh*t if the tories were in power. Do you remember the boom and bust of the 1980s?
The tories wanted us to go to war as well so again if the tories were in power we would have still have gone to war. Do you remember the Falkland's war of 1982 that Thatcher took us into? It was the most pointless war in history. How the hell could we benefit from a few tiny islands.
In the 80s there was a estimated 13 million unemployed and its not even near to that figure under Labour. Thatcher closed the mines, privitised nearly everything and basically f*cked this country up. The only people who benefited was the rich and well off.
I was born in 1981 so I lived under the tories for 16 years and i might have only been a youngster but I remember my parents struggling to make ends meet. My mum would have to clean neighbours houses for £20 a day just so we had enough money to buy food and electricity. I might have only been a child but I could tell things were bad. Then when Labour got into power things deffinitely improved and i can honestly say i am alot better off now then i ever was under the tories. Also I have never sponged off the government and i've had a job since leaving school so not all Labour voters are spongers!
Like it or not but Labour are certainly the lesser of the 2 evils and people will see this in the next few years
