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Top 5 Surgeon Fue In The World: Any Suggestion?

Discussion in 'Hair Transplants Information - General Discussions' started by charleron, Jan 22, 2018.

  1. PhilHemingway

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    Yeah sorry mate I was just being a bit of plumb.
    Tbh Wolf Pack, I guess its difficult to say who are the best 5 surgeons. The surgeons who have made the most money are able to promote themselves better than others. My advice to people is visit an umber of clinics and find the surgeon who is right for you. Soomeone you can relate to, gives you confidence that even if things dont go well, they have your best interest at heart. That is exactly the feeling I got from Dr Shuja and his team at British Hair Clinic.
    I prefer UK surgeons as (a) they are easier to get on with and build a relationship with (b) there are strict (relative to other countries) standards set by advertising standards authority, public health england, CQC etc that protect the public from spurious claims by clinics/surgeons and post-op care responsibility.
    You say they are unknown, plenty of celebrities and VIPs (including royalty) have been treated by British Hair Clinic surgeons. Maybe some of the lesser well-known surgeon dont blow their own trumpet. Quietly getting on with things? May be im just old school. Brexit knoced some sense out of me. Lol
     
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    Brexit FTW ;) UK not the centre of the world sadly :p

    You're right about visiting clinics and talking to the surgeon. But more than atmosphere, it's about results. UK healthcare in general is exceptional. But with transplants, it's lagging behind. Then the cost element. Of course we'd all like to do a transplant at our own doorstep, especially with the recovery. But finding a good skills based one is important. I went abroad.

    I think looking at tons of before and after videos/pictures, looking at graft numbers utilised, working with different types of hair is more important. Can't go wrong if you do this. Got to tailor it to your own needs as much as possible. Some surgeons have been working since the early 90s and have seen it all - I prefer to go to these guys than someone doing it for a few years.

    I liked the shearer/savage comparison you wrote earlier, almost fell off my chair.

    Even with good to a well known surgeon, things can go wrong. And going to a so so one, it can work out well. It's about limiting the chances of a bad/mediocre result.

    Looking where celebrities and royals go isn't great. Dr Rassman (look him up) said a lot of times they do ***** all research and ask their agent to find someone. Plenty have been butchered. LeBron James ended up with an FUT which healed with a keloid scar - common in blacks. He could have done FUE first, wasn't far gone like a true baldy. Rooney looks like **** too although it might be because he's not good looking, beta faced, bad skin and had crap donor.

    A "lesser surgeon quietly getting on with things" as you put it won't remain quiet much longer. His patients will advertise his skills on the net even if he doesn't. Just the way it is and they'll make a name.

    Glad your situation worked out and it would be nice to see UK surgeons enter the fold.
     
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    I agree totally, it's about time some of the good clinics in the UK got the recognition they deserved for doing fantastic work... there really are some great ones here in the UK that never seem to get mentioned when people go on about the best in the world. I reckon this is purely down to the fact that years ago work was poor and clinics like the Norton clinic for example gave the UK a bad reputation...this has unfairly tarnished the whole countries reputation in my opinion, which is a shame as some doctors are now in fact producing world class work.

    I personally have seen many surgeons results up close and in person from various clinics around the world and yes i agree with some of the clinics mentioned but i also think that their are clinics here producing work of the same exceptional standard. One such clinic that springs to mind is the Maitland clinic. Their FUE is world class and is up there with the clinics others regard as the very best in the world in my opinion.

    Wolf pack out of curiosity dude and being in the UK as well i'm just curious as to who did your hair transplant bud? Hope you don't mind me being nosey just wandered with being a UK guy too.

    I don't often visit the forums these days due to time limitations with having little kids that take up my time so excuse me if youv'e posted these already but have you any pics of your procedure anywhere dude...would love to see them :)

    best wishes BN
     
  4. Wolf Pack

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    hello I recommend Dr. Guray Yesiladali. He has 10 years experience in turkey + america + germany, he is based in turkey. they are using the 3D hair transplant .
     
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    If the clinics in the UK are just as good as the top clinics in the US, Spain, Turkey and Belgium, why do they refuse to do mega sessions? They seem to think FUE sessions are limited to 2000-2500 grafts, and FUT has a higher yield. This information is very outdated.
     
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    Dr Reddy wouldn't come in my top 100 let alone top 5. Nice guy but charges by the hair not the graft which means he cuts grafts down in to single units to make more money.
     
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    Me neither but he's better than some of the jokers listed here. I also avoid people who split grafts, seems like a way to shaft people.
     
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    Agreed! But not value for money.
     
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    JeanLucBB Senior Member My Regimen

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    Wtf is with all the shills and pro UK people here. UK surgeons are at best acceptable, at worst horrific. Those that do acceptable work do it for twice the global average in price.

    For low norwood

    Keser
    Freitas
    Konior

    High norwood

    Erdogan
    Couto
     
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    Exactly
     
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    I agree (I am trying to be more agreeable). Its all about the money. Wayne Rooney reportedly paid £30K for what seems like a £7k Erdogan FUE.
     
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    Erdogan would have got better results than this dogshit that he absolutely drenches in concealer. Surprises me how stupid some of these major celebs can be when it comes to basic research on a procedure that could potentially destroy their image completely. His donor and hair quality have always looked horrible though, he should have gone a giant FUT with HnW.




    Wayne-Rooney.jpg
     
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    Cuck face/skin and hair is in a real terrible state. Hats off to the guy who operated on him to leave him as a Norwood 6 and take the dough. He wasn't a candidate and if he was deemed to be, he needed a lot more grafts through FUT like most baldies. His donor hair is wank, wouldn't be surprised if he has thinning at his back too from retrograde alopecia and from plucking out his few hairs.
     
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    I suppose being an athlete he wouldn't be able to take Finasteride which has made things worse for him. I had a Fue from Reddy the same week he had his done and had to endure the taunts of "he's had a Rooney" for months afterwards. To be honest I don't think mine is any better only a shed lot cheaper.
     
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    I am surprised no one mention Dr. Shapiro and Dr. Cole, I had a procedure with both and after a lot of research, Dr Cole's procedure was the most successful and the results were super fast, he is surely an artist and the most informative surgeon I met and I have explored most of them including the ones you guys mentioned.
     
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    Cole has had some MAJOR issues of questionable ethics in the past, some of the transplant communities have likely shunned him because of that. Also branching into chain clinics and his focus on things like PRP which most believe to be a joke is typically a bad sign. Rarely do his results have the artistic flair or "wow" effect of the Europeans either.

    He's a competent surgeon but anyone with the kinds of ethical issues he's had in the past should be avoided.

    Shapiro isn't aggressive enough for the "wow" results of ultra-youthful hairlines or giant densities of Keser, Freitas etc. which again makes it easy to forget about him. He's a very competent surgeon but particularly considering his prices and lack of competitive advantage elsewhere over Europeans in regards to results I don't see any reason to opt for him or why he should be considered among the very best.

    I mean can you genuinely say either Cole or Shapiro even come close to the results of Erdogan, Keser, Freitas or Couto in terms of magnitude of change? They're not in the same league.
     
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    With all due respect, how did you got to these conclusions? as far as I know, he is working alone and is not branching with anyone to this day, he has a clinic in Atlanta and I think in Rome with Dr Chiara but that's about it. Yes, he is a loudspeaker and not concern about being politically correct. he doesn't play the game that all the other doctors play and although it can get him into troubles with them and the ISHRS, it is still something I personally admire. Yes, he is getting great results because I have seen them with my own eyes and not just online photos. most doctors either been trained by him or got the knowledge that he spread all over Europe through training and workshop starting with DHI, HDC, ******** who worked with him, HLC turkey and more...
    A big percent of the clinics uses his punches and automotive machines (Coleinstruments).
     
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    I'm aware of his work with FUE Europe along with a number of hugely successful and respected surgeons, at the end of the day I'm basing the question of whether he is a top 5 surgeon largely on his results, aesthetically in regards to design, density and naturalness I don't think they're at the level of Freitas, Keser, or Couto, and he hasn't shown the capability for large megasessions with consistently high yields such as Erdogan. He also doesn't have as many results available for viewing as other top surgeons available on a consistent basis to make concrete decisions, nor results with comb throughs in harsh lighting to show realistically how the work looks, ala Lorenzo.

    On the red flag front as a marketer, his constant reference to the benefits of PRP which is largely considered a joke in the hairloss community both based on anecdotal experience and genuine data, his claim which PRP can speed up results by 30% which again is backed by zero data, his reference of "CIT" which realistically is simply FUE with use of his personally designed Cole Instruments punch Tool, his chain clinic tactics which are growing including a branch in Asia now, his constant badmouthing of other surgeons (including on this very forum), his use of motorised punches and automotive instruments the majority of academics in the transplant community agree are not invented for optimal results, but solely removing difficulty for the surgeon.

    Also quotes like this on his website:

    "His groundbreaking contribution, Cole Isolation Technique (CIT®), offers over 97% yield and no visible scars -unheard of in the hair transplant industry."

    Guaranteeing over 97% yield in itself is unethical even if its just on his website, and saying "no visible scars" in any surgical procedure is false and blatantly unethical. Similarly he contends that PRP will cause regeneration in FUE extraction sites, which are utterly laughable, bottom of the barrel scumbag lies.

    "most doctors either been trained by him or got the knowledge that he spread all over Europe through training and workshop"

    This is a load of dogshit and you know it, you sound like a paid rep.

    Just quick Google search and its easy to find poor results from him also

    https://www.yelp.com.au/biz/the-forhair-clinic-alpharetta

    And this case among plenty of others in terms of blatantly unethical conduct. Very often he refuses to compensate patients for poor results also.

    https://www.hairlosstalk.com/intera...geries-i-paid-36-000-with-zero-results.94382/

    Recently his results have been strong but there are so many reasons to avoid this man, on top of the fact that aesthetically his results are not by any standards on the level of some of the surgeons he is working with at FUE Europe, such as ******** and Oztan.

    "he doesn't play the game that all the other doctors play"

    No he doesn't, he's a shameless self promoter, a liar, unethical, attacks other surgeons, and is ultimately highly accomplished but not a top-tier surgeon.
     
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  20. Ronchuck

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    But that doesn't stop you from calling him a liar, unethical...good for you
    Are you showing reviews from yelp? OMG, they have the most dishonest filter, I never lay on their reviews
    https://www.realself.com/find/Georgia/Alpharetta/Hair-Restoration-Surgeon/John-Cole#reviews
    I think that your attack on him is disrespecting my outcome and many of his patients who are grateful for not going to other doctors and choosing dr. cole for their surgery. sorry, but it sounds that you have an agenda, my friend. I am done with this thread.
     

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