This guy speaks the truth!
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slipy
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taken part in it? once, kind of, towards my father. in my defense i can say i didn't have any malicious intents it was out of ignorance. it was just one brief moment.
as for public abuse, as if i don't know what people are like. when im out i see them laughing and giggling at the slightest reason. imagine if they saw a bald guy, a weird looking bald guy at that, he'd be the most perfect target for ridicule.
as for public abuse, as if i don't know what people are like. when im out i see them laughing and giggling at the slightest reason. imagine if they saw a bald guy, a weird looking bald guy at that, he'd be the most perfect target for ridicule.
s.a.f
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slipy said:
Really so right now I guess you must be perfect? because people being people if you're slightly overweight or too tall or too short or wear glasses ect then obviously just by stepping out of the house you have to run the gauntlet of the general publics abuse.
Geez if this was really the case then 90% of people would never leave the house.
Me personally I cant walk past anyone over the age of 60 without shouting "hey oldy what was it like before electricity"?
And if I see anyone over 6'4" thats it, I'm following them around for the rest of the day "hey lanky, whats the weather like up there"? "Look out for that low flying plane!" ect ect...
I have to wonder what planet you people are living on or if you're all still in school.
SAF-Most people today,are overweight,there are plenty of people nowadays taller than me,this is the norm.Seeing a white,pale,freckled,ginger,bald man in his prime is NOT what the general populus sees on a daily basis.
Please,just because you have had a hair transplant,and come through well the other side,stop berating my,u.mans,HPM,slippy etc feelings,as if we are making this crap up,and are just paranoid.
Please,just because you have had a hair transplant,and come through well the other side,stop berating my,u.mans,HPM,slippy etc feelings,as if we are making this crap up,and are just paranoid.
HairPieceMan
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i hate it when saf compares being young , white and bald at the same time to seeing a man who is tall or short or has freckles.
its not the same, get a grip!
ig you feel normal young and bald then power to you, but dont compare it to other trvial things, IT IS RARE and socailly unexpected to be pre-maturely bald, i think id feel normal bald in old folks home, not at this age
it is AGE related
if i wear glasses at 15,25,35,45,55,65 FINE
if im bald 15,25,35,45,55,65
see the difference.
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you can't compare those things to baldness. having no hair on the head is in a league of it's own.
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yeah thanks slipy, my exact feelings, who the f*** starts balding at 20 and thinks "this is normal" vs putting on a pair of glasses at 20, or putting on weight at 15.
so that's an asthetic point, other point is turning into somethign far worse than you were before, if at 21 i decide to wear glasses it woulndt really matter, would a girlfriend leave me when i started wearing glasses, do people think "isnt he a bit young to be wearing glasses", he started wearing glasses, i wonder what his girlfriend thinks of that.
as i said hair is symbol of youth, vitality and sexual power,
glasses is a practical devise to see better, the difference between a young white guy with or without glasses is minor, if i see a friend at 18 without glasses,, then 22 with glasses, he looks the same, if i see a friend at 18 with a full head of hair, then 22 TOTALLY SLY BALD, its a different impact no?
tbh i never saw fat men as a negative stigma much, again not age related, most large men laugh at their wieght, its within their control and they don't care that they eat a lot, its not really negative, they are displaying a life of choice, bald guys are not displaying a life of coiche, and there is lies the problem, we are not displaying a life of choice, + they could merely loose the weight, its thier choice.
its not the same, get a grip!
ig you feel normal young and bald then power to you, but dont compare it to other trvial things, IT IS RARE and socailly unexpected to be pre-maturely bald, i think id feel normal bald in old folks home, not at this age
it is AGE related
if i wear glasses at 15,25,35,45,55,65 FINE
if im bald 15,25,35,45,55,65
see the difference.
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you can't compare those things to baldness. having no hair on the head is in a league of it's own.
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yeah thanks slipy, my exact feelings, who the f*** starts balding at 20 and thinks "this is normal" vs putting on a pair of glasses at 20, or putting on weight at 15.
so that's an asthetic point, other point is turning into somethign far worse than you were before, if at 21 i decide to wear glasses it woulndt really matter, would a girlfriend leave me when i started wearing glasses, do people think "isnt he a bit young to be wearing glasses", he started wearing glasses, i wonder what his girlfriend thinks of that.
as i said hair is symbol of youth, vitality and sexual power,
glasses is a practical devise to see better, the difference between a young white guy with or without glasses is minor, if i see a friend at 18 without glasses,, then 22 with glasses, he looks the same, if i see a friend at 18 with a full head of hair, then 22 TOTALLY SLY BALD, its a different impact no?
tbh i never saw fat men as a negative stigma much, again not age related, most large men laugh at their wieght, its within their control and they don't care that they eat a lot, its not really negative, they are displaying a life of choice, bald guys are not displaying a life of coiche, and there is lies the problem, we are not displaying a life of choice, + they could merely loose the weight, its thier choice.
berserker69
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uncomfortable man said:
uncomfortable man said:
Not in any way directed at you mate, just word play. I aint here to get involved in flamin...
At the end of the day - we're bald/balding and look worse for it. Other people are living life with far, far more serious concerns. If society at large knew about these sites I don't know whether they'd maybe take time to consider the genuine devastation and psychological trauma that hairloss can cause (and who actually wants sympathy?) or, on the other hand, and let's face it: be repulsed by such a collective display of insecurity and cowardice bemoaning a cosmetic concern faced by almost all men at some point in their life...
I am as guilty as anyone for doing so - you think I've been able to brush off losing my hair and it's impact on my appearance like that? My insecurities amount to more than most, and I'm 6'2 and a lean 250lbs. So I really shouldn't 'have any excuse' when others are fat/short/whatever, though of course I will find things in their life that I am envious of that they take for granted....
I had a pretty good life, I lived for sex and socialising, but never dealing with my mental issues, (and hairloss is mainly devastating because of it's psychological implications) saw EVERYTHING crumble around me as my support network disbanded - my self esteem was non existant and I predicted a life of loneliness cos I couldn't accept my reflection in the mirror. I royally f*cked up my job, became homeless, starving, addicted to drugs (neagtive coping, but coping nonetheless) became a social outcast and withered away to nothing - having been actively weightlifting/bodybuilding for 13 years that was another big part of my identity WHAM, gone.....I was f*cked over by heartless c*nts no end of times, became increasingly paranoid and eventually I was detained in the psychiatric hospital for 3 months after the stimulant induced psychosis......
It's been 2 years since I could consider myself happy, with a girlfriend, hair that I was yes self conscious of but hadn't completely taken over my life, a job, a flat, a social life....... Now I look worse than ever. I look ugly with short, badly balding hair but can't shave my head cos I have Cutis verticis gyrata and look like an actual freak... Catch 22... So I don't even properly figure on the Norwood scale, I'm a true individual!
We're all f*cked as much as we let ourselves see it that way....
I severley doubt that the majority of bald men who are out there living life wouldn't jump at the chance to have their hair again, and it must have taken a while to come to terms with it. But they aren't giving up on life, sh*t happens, deal with it. That's what society expects, that's what (especially) men are supposed to do...
What I identify in myself is this: what sets me apart from productive, functional and aspirational (balding) men is my mental health: my insecurities from a paranoid obsession with personal apperarance which I have used as the basis of most of my self esteem and has seen my adult life fraught with an inferiority complex. 've always been holding out for the day when I woke up, looked in the mirror and thought "wow, I'm a stud, I'll be confident and brave from this day forth! No more excuses, time to let my amazing personality be revealed and kick *** in everything!"
Utopian thinking has plagued me my whole life, and addressing that is going to see my quality of life vastly improved, much more so than, even though it's what I want more than anything in the world right now, having a perfect head of hair.....
On that note I'm seeing my CPN and psychiatrist again for psychotherapy of some sorts... Even Chaos Magic, man, I'm determined to rewire my negative thinking!
S.A.F gets flamed here but man, without his outlook to add some PERSPECTIVE to things then suicide is probably the most promising treatment for dealing with many users hairloss!
These last two weeks have seen me go from writing my own suicide note and looking at the train times for which one I should jump in front of to getting a grip of myself and realising that I'm so weak and have never genuinely put up a fight and showed some resilience and courage in life. I've rather chosen to avoid all conflicts, any chance of rejection and/or failure and this is where it has gotten me....
Hairloss is forcing me to reinvent myself in many, many ways. I may well be grateful for the plight in years to come...
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s.a.f
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slipy said:
No its not there are plenty of balding guys who I work with in their 20,s with noticible hairloss even NW6's they are not ridiculed or seen as freaks people are not saying "WHAT ???!! how come that young guy is bald"???!!!
They simply see that these guys are bald just like many of their own adult relatives. Yes they are unfortunate enough to be suffering it young but people are not that stupid they do realise that its possible to be balding in your 20's even if its not that common.
By your theory anyone under the age of 50 who wears glasses is also some kind of freak because failing eyesight is predominantly linked to old age.
HairPieceMan
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seb said:
and compare to glasses
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see how retarded it is to compare baldness to wearing glasses?
stop comparing an age related process to things that people can have when their 15 (glasses, weight, freckles)
s.a.f said:
plenty? please i hardly see young balding guys in town, if i sit on a bus full of young men going to collge i dont see shiny heads all the time, maybe if i entered the old folks home its normal, but no i disagree.
one time i was outside a local students union full of men aged 20-30 primarliy, i watched 200 young men walk in to the dundee union on tuesday night,ALL NW1s, true story. NONE were bald.
i had a check list as well, to tally up the people with hair, after i got to 200 i just gave up and said "there are no bald guys going to students union tonight"
i also hung around dundee college main campus and counted the guys that walked in, about 200 men walked in NW1s, then ONE sly bald guy came in, he was uber tanned so he was a walking orange, everyone else had hair, OUT OF 200 20 something men.
actually i saw one other bald guy at college, but he was 50, he had a grey horshoe ring, and was wearing a sweater, maybe he was a professor?
but no i disagree baldness is rare in young men
s.a.f
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HairPieceMan said:
Yes and people can be balding 17.
Look at the stats for glasses wearers they go up progressivley with age just like baldness.
s.a.f said:
HPM said:
Well I guess Fife is the land of no baldies unless you take into account that most college students are under 21, but if they were to come back in their mid 20's then many of them would be balding. If you saw me when I was at college I was'nt obviously balding and yet a few years later I was.
And you seem to be forgeting you're 26 not 18!
Maybe you should come down to my town because young balding guys in their 20's are everywhere, sure they may be the minority not but those who are still make up enough numbers to be considered normal.
Where I work out of about 90 guys in their 20's and 30's there are easily a dozen who are obviously balding. And yet only 1 ginger so who's the freak?
And if you take into account the other 30 or so who are over 40 then about half of them are bald or balding.
Nobody who lives an active social life can seriously believe your opinion that bald men are a rareity even those in their 20's.
PS You travel by bus? I thought you were supposed to be mega rich? :whistle:
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TravisB
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Gentlemen, I really think that your debate is pointless because it seems that no one is going to convince each other :mrgreen:
HairPieceMan
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well all im saying is one time i really did count the men that walked into the students union and none of them were balding out of 200, and the primary age group would have been 20-29 easliy.
it was the dundee union, tuesday night at 12pm, i just saw hordes of guys NOT balding, over 200 i counted them all on a bit of paper.
and yes i was walking around dundee campus in daytime and no they weren't all bang on 19-21, i mean sure 70% would be 20-25, 20% 25-30 10% 30-40.
but the stats were obvious, 99.9% of the time some young guy walked into college campus the guy wasn't balding.
i woudl say some young guy walks into college, chances of him balding, 1 in 150
and no not young as in 19-21, i mean young as in 20-27 or something. (NW2 not counting)
@ seb that qoute was to illustrate safs error in glasses, comparing it is wrong, i know you dintn say that about glasses, but im showing the stupidity in comparing young balding guys to guys with glasses, i knew someone that wore glasses at 15 in high school, nothign up their, not the same as baldness, + he has life choice, he can take them off if he wants, + glasses doesnt harm you phycoligy or has sexual power associted with it.
honestly woudl you rather wear glasses and have hair then be bald with no glasses.
it was the dundee union, tuesday night at 12pm, i just saw hordes of guys NOT balding, over 200 i counted them all on a bit of paper.
and yes i was walking around dundee campus in daytime and no they weren't all bang on 19-21, i mean sure 70% would be 20-25, 20% 25-30 10% 30-40.
but the stats were obvious, 99.9% of the time some young guy walked into college campus the guy wasn't balding.
i woudl say some young guy walks into college, chances of him balding, 1 in 150
and no not young as in 19-21, i mean young as in 20-27 or something. (NW2 not counting)
@ seb that qoute was to illustrate safs error in glasses, comparing it is wrong, i know you dintn say that about glasses, but im showing the stupidity in comparing young balding guys to guys with glasses, i knew someone that wore glasses at 15 in high school, nothign up their, not the same as baldness, + he has life choice, he can take them off if he wants, + glasses doesnt harm you phycoligy or has sexual power associted with it.
honestly woudl you rather wear glasses and have hair then be bald with no glasses.
