Theory: Cooked Fat =DHT(Dihydrotestosterone) Baldness

[docj077]

Take PCOS as an example.

The macronutrient balance is not right and womens hormonal balance goes out of kilter, too much T is produced and they develop male pattern baldness.

There are diets aimed at curing PCOS.

The same thing basically happens in men with baldness

No. That's not what happens with PCOS.

Not even close.

The initiating even in the development of PCOS is not known. However, increased secretion of luteinizing hormone stimulates the theca-lutein cells of the follicles, which causes excessive production of androgens (androstenedione) and eventual production of estrone.

The endocrine abnormalities in PCOS are attributed to poorly regulated enzymes in the androgen biosynthesis pathway.

Also, PCOS is linked to insulin resistance with the resumption of ovulation often occurring after administration of insulin mediators.

 

[DammitLetMeIn]

Take PCOS as an example.

The macronutrient balance is not right and womens hormonal balance goes out of kilter, too much T is produced and they develop male pattern baldness.

There are diets aimed at curing PCOS.

The same thing basically happens in men with baldness

No. That's not what happens with PCOS.

Not even close.

The initiating even in the development of PCOS is not known. However, increased secretion of luteinizing hormone stimulates the theca-lutein cells of the follicles, which causes excessive production of androgens (androstenedione) and eventual production of estrone.

The endocrine abnormalities in PCOS are attributed to poorly regulated enzymes in the androgen biosynthesis pathway.

Also, PCOS is linked to insulin resistance with the resumption of ovulation often occurring after administration of insulin mediators.

Dude, you medics are hooked on symptoms.

The initiating in the development is not known?

Let me tell you what it is then, its an insulin inducing diet choc full of carbs and such.

The pathways may be different as it is a female, but the initiating event and end result are the same, i.e. hormonal balance is knocked out of kilter by diet.

But I know arguing with a medic is pointless.

 

[docj077]

Take PCOS as an example.

The macronutrient balance is not right and womens hormonal balance goes out of kilter, too much T is produced and they develop male pattern baldness.

There are diets aimed at curing PCOS.

The same thing basically happens in men with baldness

No. That's not what happens with PCOS.

Not even close.

The initiating even in the development of PCOS is not known. However, increased secretion of luteinizing hormone stimulates the theca-lutein cells of the follicles, which causes excessive production of androgens (androstenedione) and eventual production of estrone.

The endocrine abnormalities in PCOS are attributed to poorly regulated enzymes in the androgen biosynthesis pathway.

Also, PCOS is linked to insulin resistance with the resumption of ovulation often occurring after administration of insulin mediators.

Dude, you medics are hooked on symptoms.

The initiating in the development is not known?

Let me tell you what it is then, its an insulin inducing diet choc full of carbs and such.

The pathways may be different as it is a female, but the initiating event and end result are the same, i.e. hormonal balance is knocked out of kilter by diet.

But I know arguing with a medic is pointless.

Actually, according to Robbins and Cotran's "Pathologic Basic of Disease" 7th edition the cause of PCOS is not known and their is no known link to diet. If the problem is enzymatic in origin, then the defect is inherited.

In fact, the gene defect is believed to be the gene that codes for the enzyme P450c17.

Another thing that you have to take into consideration is that PCOS is not limited to a particular population (ie women with poor diet or who are obese). Vegans and women who would be considered "skinny" develop PCOS, as well.

The dysregulation of insulin production begins once the disease sets in. It's not the other way around with insulin regulation problems causing the disease.

Some studies even demonstrate that some lean PCOS subjects show no evidence of insulin resistance.

 

[DammitLetMeIn]

Take PCOS as an example.

The macronutrient balance is not right and womens hormonal balance goes out of kilter, too much T is produced and they develop male pattern baldness.

There are diets aimed at curing PCOS.

The same thing basically happens in men with baldness

No. That's not what happens with PCOS.

Not even close.

The initiating even in the development of PCOS is not known. However, increased secretion of luteinizing hormone stimulates the theca-lutein cells of the follicles, which causes excessive production of androgens (androstenedione) and eventual production of estrone.

The endocrine abnormalities in PCOS are attributed to poorly regulated enzymes in the androgen biosynthesis pathway.

Also, PCOS is linked to insulin resistance with the resumption of ovulation often occurring after administration of insulin mediators.

Dude, you medics are hooked on symptoms.

The initiating in the development is not known?

Let me tell you what it is then, its an insulin inducing diet choc full of carbs and such.

The pathways may be different as it is a female, but the initiating event and end result are the same, i.e. hormonal balance is knocked out of kilter by diet.

But I know arguing with a medic is pointless.

Actually, according to Robbins and Cotran's "Pathologic Basic of Disease" 7th edition the cause of PCOS is not known and their is no known link to diet. If the problem is enzymatic in origin, then the defect is inherited.

In fact, the gene defect is believed to be the gene that codes for the enzyme P450c17.

Another thing that you have to take into consideration is that PCOS is not limited to a particular population (ie women with poor diet or who are obese). Vegans and women who would be considered "skinny" develop PCOS, as well.

The dysregulation of insulin production begins once the disease sets in. It's not the other way around with insulin regulation problems causing the disease.

Some studies even demonstrate that some lean PCOS subjects show no evidence of insulin resistance.

Yes, but they show evidence of high androgenicity. If one does not get the requisite nutrients the body can release androgens.

Look, every disease is a departure from health, and health is achieved by eating the right diet for one's body.

Thereby, every disease (or inability to fight disease) is caused by an incorrect diet.

Western Medicine starts from the symptom and tries to treat/suppress it.

This avoids addressing what causes the symptom in first place and makes billions of dollars in the process.

Read this:

Polycystic ovary syndrome
Dietary causes:

Carbohydrate-rich 'healthy' diet; polyunsaturated vegetable oils and margarines, processed convenience foods.



Polycystic ovary syndrome is one of the most common endocrine disorders in the human, affecting approximately 10% of women of reproductive age. Although originally considered a gynaecological disorder, the syndrome is associated with a wide range of endocrine and metabolic abnormalities, including insulin resistance.

Affected women are at an increased risk of developing gestational and non-insulin dependent diabetes and there is an association with cardiovascular risk factors including obesity, high blood pressure, high cholesterol, dyslipidaemia, and thickening of the artery walls.

What causes PCOS is unclear. However, there strong indications that dietary sugars play a major part. In view of the proven links with diabetes and cardiovascular disease, the link with a carbohydrate based 'healthy' diet is very persuasive.

PCOS is a disease that is better prevented than cured. Correct diet (low in sugars – and that includes fruit) is probably the healthiest way to prevent the condition.

Reference

Lakhani K, Prelevic GM, Seifalian AM, et al. Polycystic ovary syndrome, diabetes and cardiovascular disease: risks and risk factors. J Obstet Gynaecol 2004; 24: 613-21.


Now, I don't want to get off topic but the facts are thus:

PCOS = hormone imbalance = cured/alleviated by diet

Baldness = hormone imbalance = cured alleviated by diet

Hell, even cancer is down to diet

 

[docj077]

Take PCOS as an example.

The macronutrient balance is not right and womens hormonal balance goes out of kilter, too much T is produced and they develop male pattern baldness.

There are diets aimed at curing PCOS.

The same thing basically happens in men with baldness

No. That's not what happens with PCOS.

Not even close.

The initiating even in the development of PCOS is not known. However, increased secretion of luteinizing hormone stimulates the theca-lutein cells of the follicles, which causes excessive production of androgens (androstenedione) and eventual production of estrone.

The endocrine abnormalities in PCOS are attributed to poorly regulated enzymes in the androgen biosynthesis pathway.

Also, PCOS is linked to insulin resistance with the resumption of ovulation often occurring after administration of insulin mediators.

Dude, you medics are hooked on symptoms.

The initiating in the development is not known?

Let me tell you what it is then, its an insulin inducing diet choc full of carbs and such.

The pathways may be different as it is a female, but the initiating event and end result are the same, i.e. hormonal balance is knocked out of kilter by diet.

But I know arguing with a medic is pointless.

Actually, according to Robbins and Cotran's "Pathologic Basic of Disease" 7th edition the cause of PCOS is not known and their is no known link to diet. If the problem is enzymatic in origin, then the defect is inherited.

In fact, the gene defect is believed to be the gene that codes for the enzyme P450c17.

Another thing that you have to take into consideration is that PCOS is not limited to a particular population (ie women with poor diet or who are obese). Vegans and women who would be considered "skinny" develop PCOS, as well.

The dysregulation of insulin production begins once the disease sets in. It's not the other way around with insulin regulation problems causing the disease.

Some studies even demonstrate that some lean PCOS subjects show no evidence of insulin resistance.

Yes, but they show evidence of high androgenicity. If one does not get the requisite nutrients the body can release androgens.

Look, every disease is a departure from health, and health is achieved by eating the right diet for one's body.

Thereby, every disease (or inability to fight disease) is caused by an incorrect diet.

Western Medicine starts from the symptom and tries to treat/suppress it.

This avoids addressing what causes the symptom in first place and makes billions of dollars in the process.

You really are clueless here.

You name a disease and I will guarantee that it will have a genetic component. Every human disease is associated with a genetic defect and that's why we treat symptoms, because we can't treat all diseases on the genetic level.

That's something that you learn when you study medicine. Mankind may worsen or accelerate the development of disease, but the disease is there from birth.

You can think that diet has an effect on every disease, but you couldn't be more wrong. In fact, it's very disturbing to even read your posts anymore. You lack a fundamental understanding of physiology, biochemistry, and pathology. Because of this fact, you're jumping around through science linking things that have nothing in common. That's poor science and poor reasoning.

I recommend that you stop now.

 

[docj077]

You need to read the following, dammitletmein:


http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/466573_2

Read very carefully and stop taking things out of context.

 

[DammitLetMeIn]

http://www.i-sis.org.uk/DTG.php[/url]
http://www.lipidsonline.org/news/article.cfm?aid=4308
http://www.ifr.ac.uk/science/sciencebri ... _gene.html

Heres the best link to show genes can changed by food:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4441564.stm

Everything is individualised in your mind because that is the way medicine teaches. But the body is a whole and should be treated as such. ONe of the main problems with Western Medicine is arrogance and the belief that their methods are superior to others.

Why then has America got the worst record for cancer in the world? genetic? I don't think so.

If the posts are that abhorrent to you I suggest you stop reading. Thankfully, not everyone's mind is closed however.

 

[docj077]

Of course its disturbing to a medic who has been taught only one way of attempting to deal with illness.

Genetic component - yes but what turns the genes on and off? - diet!

Diet trumps Genes. Don't believe me? the geneticists do

http://www.i-sis.org.uk/DTG.php
http://www.lipidsonline.org/news/article.cfm?aid=4308
http://www.ifr.ac.uk/science/sciencebri ... _gene.html

Everything is individualised in your mind because that is the way medicine teaches. But the body is a whole and should be treated as such. ONe of the main problems with Western Medicine is arrogance and the belief that their methods are superior to others.

Why then has America got the worst record for cancer in the world? genetic? I don't think so.

In the United States, we are called doctors.

As for your diet comment, why don't you understand that people with near perfect diets still develop disease? Whether it be PCOS, lupus, hypertension, or the like, you can have a perfect diet your entire life (ie grow up in a vegan family and remain a vegan) and you will still develop disease.

I don't understand why you think diet is such a big part of things when you don't even understand how diet works into this problem. There are far too many biochemical processes at work here to claim that altering one aspect of it will throw off the entire system. There are negative feedback mechanisms in place throughout the entire system to protect the body.

As for your cancer comment, that's completely untrue. The United States has high rates of some cancers, but something that you'll probably find intriguing is that societies (ie India) with most of society having completely vegan diets have incredibly high instances of some of the most deadly cancers (squamous cell carcinoma of the esophagus and other cancers of the GI tract).

The top cancers in the U.S. such as Lung, colon, and prostate/breast cancer are not just the top cancers here. They are the top cancers of any given developed country.

So, either you're incredibly uninformed or you think you understand these processes, but you really have no clue.

In the U.S., when people get sick they have a far better chance of surviving here than any other country in the world. Our techniques are specific and treat the disease with few side effects. Our intruments are disposable and our medications are targeted. Any given doctor in any given country would give their left leg to come to the U.S. to practice medicine and in fact they do as we've had an incredible influx of foreign doctors and students into our residencies and medical schools. These people train here and then return to their own nations.

Quality training, quality medicine, and quality expertise are only found in the U.S.

 

[Guest]

Dammit,

stop trying to pass your stuff off as proven fact. it is not allowed on here. you're treading on thin ice.

 

[DammitLetMeIn]

Of course its disturbing to a medic who has been taught only one way of attempting to deal with illness.

Genetic component - yes but what turns the genes on and off? - diet!

Diet trumps Genes. Don't believe me? the geneticists do

http://www.i-sis.org.uk/DTG.php
http://www.lipidsonline.org/news/article.cfm?aid=4308
http://www.ifr.ac.uk/science/sciencebri ... _gene.html

Everything is individualised in your mind because that is the way medicine teaches. But the body is a whole and should be treated as such. ONe of the main problems with Western Medicine is arrogance and the belief that their methods are superior to others.

Why then has America got the worst record for cancer in the world? genetic? I don't think so.

In the United States, we are called doctors.

As for your diet comment, why don't you understand that people with near perfect diets still develop disease? Whether it be PCOS, lupus, hypertension, or the like, you can have a perfect diet your entire life (ie grow up in a vegan family and remain a vegan) and you will still develop disease.

I don't understand why you think diet is such a big part of things when you don't even understand how diet works into this problem. There are far too many biochemical processes at work here to claim that altering one aspect of it will throw off the entire system. There are negative feedback mechanisms in place throughout the entire system to protect the body.

As for your cancer comment, that's completely untrue. The United States has high rates of some cancers, but something that you'll probably find intriguing is that societies (ie India) with most of society having completely vegan diets have incredibly high instances of some of the most deadly cancers (squamous cell carcinoma of the esophagus and other cancers of the GI tract).

The top cancers in the U.S. such as Lung, colon, and prostate/breast cancer are not just the top cancers here. They are the top cancers of any given developed country.

So, either you're incredibly uninformed or you think you understand these processes, but you really have no clue.

In the U.S., when people get sick they have a far better chance of surviving here than any other country in the world. Our techniques are specific and treat the disease with few side effects. Our intruments are disposable and our medications are targeted. Any given doctor in any given country would give their left leg to come to the U.S. to practice medicine and in fact they do as we've had an incredible influx of foreign doctors and students into our residencies and medical schools. These people train here and then return to their own nations.

Quality training, quality medicine, and quality expertise are only found in the U.S.

Read this:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4441564.stm

Your brainwashed by your own system. But I accept that. You may be trained in treating symptoms but that is not healthcare. Cancer rates are continually rising in Ameica and we're losing the war on cancer. Most developed countries are Westernised hence they have the same cancer afflictions.

I could go on but your mind is closed. And you obviously only selectively read my posts.

Edit: Read this: (and actually READ IT from start to finish):

http://www.westonaprice.org/traditional ... icans.html

 

[docj077]

Read this:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4441564.stm

Your brainwashed by your own system. But I accept that. You may be trained in treating symptoms but that is not healthcare. Cancer rates are continually rising in Ameica and we're losing the war on cancer. Most developed countries are Westernised hence they have the same cancer afflictions.

I could go on but your mind is closed. And you obviously only selectively read my posts.

The methylation and demethylation of genes is not something that is controlled directly by diet. No matter what the BBC says. It is controlled by downstream biochemical processes.

In case your ignorant *** has forgotten, it is the United States that develops the majority of drugs that are used in the fight against cancer. Antibodies against tumor, drugs that target the various mitotic processes, drugs that target hormone receptors, drugs that target tyrosine kinase and the like. There isn't a single country in the world that has better drugs and better patient safety and cure rates.

You need to stop listening to the media, because the majority of their reasoning is wrong.

 

[docj077]

Edit: Read this: (and actually READ IT from start to finish):

http://www.westonaprice.org/traditional ... icans.html

As for this piece of crap, POST SOMETHING FROM A REPUTABLE PEER REVIEWED MEDICAL JOURNAL OR A PEER REVIEWED MEDICAL WEBSITE!!! We've told you this numerous times.

Figure your crap out, because you still sound ridiculous.

 

[michael barry]

It appears Doctor is right about some specific cancers and high rates in India..... http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/330/7485/215-c


I'd like to take a look around and find any articles on what nations have the highest rates of cancer. It would be interesting to see that.

 

[michael barry]

This is what the WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION says about diet and cancer:

"Nutrition and cancer – the good news
Stomach cancer is among the most common malignancies worldwide, with some 870,000 cases every year, and 650,000 deaths. About 60 per cent of cases occur in developing countries, with the highest incidence rates coming in Eastern Asia, the Andean regions of South America and Eastern Europe. The good news is that stomach cancer is declining world-wide, in some regions almost dramatically. In Switzerland and neighbouring European countries, the mortality fell by 60 per cent within one generation. If this trend continues, stomach cancer may in some world regions become a rare disease during the next 30 years. The main reason for this welcome development is the invention of the refrigerator, allowing fish and meat preservation without salting. The drop in incidence and mortality rates is therefore particularly impressive in Nordic countries in which fish consumption is traditionally high, e.g. Iceland. In populations that still prefer salty food, e.g. Portugal and Brazil (salted cod, bacalao), Japan and Korea (salted pickles and salad), stomach cancer rates are still high but have also started to decline significantly. An additional factor contributing to this trend is the availability in many countries of fresh fruit and vegetables throughout the year"


All that info comes from this very interesting World Health Organization press release, http://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/rel ... 3/pr27/en/

They sure think tobacco is bad. I wish people knew the truth about tobacco usage and stopped it. Everytime I see some young teen smoke, thinking that they look cool, I think about my grandad. He has infuzema and asthma so damn bad, he can hardly climb stairs.

 

[abcdefg]

Why does male pattern baldness have to be so complicated?

 

[bubka]

Quote:

'Saturated fat and cholesterol are closely linked to higher levels of T (testosterone)'


Look man, you're just not seeing what I'm seeing.

The stud(ies) clearly state that Carb intake must exceed Fat intake by 40% to keep the BIOACTIVE level of testosterone high.

Now, if one uses his brain, he will come to the conclusion that in order to keep testosterone at a healthy level he will eat a diet which is higher in fat than carbs.

But not cooked fat because cooked saturates send testosterone up

so wtf does that have to do with male pattern baldness then, you cannot just link one study to another and have a conclusion and say it is fact, its your theory, and its a bad one at that...

most of your "studies" seemed to be just articles or periodical publications, not an actual scientific study

my god, people went bald way before the advent of grain harvesting, sugar cane, and hi fructose corn syrup

The basis of the information in those two links is based upon a multitiude of scientific studies.

Show me your source about baldness occurring before grains became a mainstay of the diet.

Eskimos - 60%-80% raw fat diet and low or no carbs = no baldness

Native aMericans - very high raw fat diet and low carbs = no baldness

Pre-War japs = low carbs = no baldness

lol, there are no f*****g bald eskimos or native americans, amazing statistics really

 

[SkylineGTR]

my dad is 2nd gen mixed jap american. aggressive western diet. no baldness. His fathers side aggressive baldness.

I am a 3rd gen mixed on a balanced diet. Aggressive baldness.

I think overall it has a small part but only if you do a 30 days thing like that guy did and eat bad sh*t EVERYDAY as opposed to just having a balanced diet (which I have on top of taking suppliments) but started balding at 20-21.

There are way to many other factors. Stress, environment, pollution, actual genealogy etc... that can effect it. Diet isn't the cure but it can help in some aspects as far as your body's overall health.

There are fat Eskimos. There are fat people in japan. And i bet there are bald eskimos and native americans somewhere out there. The rate isn't as bad as Americans because of the structure of their society and lack of gluttony. Thoes who over indulge get fat regardless of WHAT they eat.

 

[DammitLetMeIn]

my dad is 2nd gen mixed jap american. aggressive western diet. no baldness. His fathers side aggressive baldness.

I am a 3rd gen mixed on a balanced diet. Aggressive baldness.

I think overall it has a small part but only if you do a 30 days thing like that guy did and eat bad $#iT EVERYDAY as opposed to just having a balanced diet (which I have on top of taking suppliments) but started balding at 20-21.

There are way to many other factors. Stress, environment, pollution, actual genealogy etc... that can effect it. Diet isn't the cure but it can help in some aspects as far as your body's overall health.

There are fat Eskimos. There are fat people in japan. And i bet there are bald eskimos and native americans somewhere out there. The rate isn't as bad as Americans because of the structure of their society and lack of gluttony. Thoes who over indulge get fat regardless of WHAT they eat.

I'm not talking about Eskimos today nor am I talking about Native Indians today.

I'm talking about the original eskimos and native indians when they ate a high percentage raw diet.

 

[DammitLetMeIn]

Read this:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4441564.stm

Your brainwashed by your own system. But I accept that. You may be trained in treating symptoms but that is not healthcare. Cancer rates are continually rising in Ameica and we're losing the war on cancer. Most developed countries are Westernised hence they have the same cancer afflictions.

I could go on but your mind is closed. And you obviously only selectively read my posts.

The methylation and demethylation of genes is not something that is controlled directly by diet. No matter what the BBC says. It is controlled by downstream biochemical processes.

In case your ignorant *** has forgotten, it is the United States that develops the majority of drugs that are used in the fight against cancer. Antibodies against tumor, drugs that target the various mitotic processes, drugs that target hormone receptors, drugs that target tyrosine kinase and the like. There isn't a single country in the world that has better drugs and better patient safety and cure rates.

You need to stop listening to the media, because the majority of their reasoning is wrong.

You twit. The BBC didn't say it, an article in the New Scientist (An American publication) based on several scientific studies said it. But its only really confirming what I already knew. I'm beginning to wonder if you can even read.

Look I could talk about the shortcomings of Western Medicine all day long but thats not what I'm here to do.

Edit: Read this: (and actually READ IT from start to finish):

http://www.westonaprice.org/traditional ... icans.html

As for this piece of crap, POST SOMETHING FROM A REPUTABLE PEER REVIEWED MEDICAL JOURNAL OR A PEER REVIEWED MEDICAL WEBSITE!!! We've told you this numerous times.

Figure your crap out, because you still sound ridiculous.

I did post medical citations for all the information about fats/carbs/protein being linked to hormonal levels.

But its quite disturbing that you don't read/respect anything that doesn't have 'medical' in front of it. If you knew anything about the history of medicine you wouldn't be saying that. That article was written by a person with a PhD if you look at the bottom of the link.

Do you even know who Dr. Weston Price is?

Dr Price (1870-1948) was a Cleveland dentist and nutrition research pioneer whose work Nutritional and Physical Degeneration chronicles his fact-finding journies around the world in the 1920s and 1930s. His purpose in this endeavour was originally to study the dental hygiene and development in native populations (including tribal Africans, Pacific Islanders, Eskimos, North and South American Indians, and Austrialian Aborigines). Later, however, Price shifted his focus to recording and studying the generational developmental effects of dietary differences and deficiencies between traditional native diets and what was at that time a newly imported "western" diet of refined, processed foods. Price's long-term study was very in-depth for its time.

Price found that beautiful straight teeth, freedom from decay, stalwart bodies, resistance to disease and fine characters were typical of indigenous people eating their traditional diets, rich in essential food factors. He also discovered examples of people from the cultures he visited who had adopted the impoverished foods of "civilisation", such as sugar, white flour, pasteurised milk and convenience foods filled with extenders and additives, noting and photographing the dental and health differences in these people and their offspring.[2]

ALL OF WESTON PRICE'S WORK APPEARED IN THE PEER REVIEWED JOURNALS IN HIS DAY.

This guy was on the grind before you were even born

Why does male pattern baldness have to be so complicated?

Its not really. all you have to do its keep your hormones in balance.

 

[SkylineGTR]

my dad is 2nd gen mixed jap american. aggressive western diet. no baldness. His fathers side aggressive baldness.

I am a 3rd gen mixed on a balanced diet. Aggressive baldness.

I think overall it has a small part but only if you do a 30 days thing like that guy did and eat bad $#iT EVERYDAY as opposed to just having a balanced diet (which I have on top of taking suppliments) but started balding at 20-21.

There are way to many other factors. Stress, environment, pollution, actual genealogy etc... that can effect it. Diet isn't the cure but it can help in some aspects as far as your body's overall health.

There are fat Eskimos. There are fat people in japan. And i bet there are bald eskimos and native americans somewhere out there. The rate isn't as bad as Americans because of the structure of their society and lack of gluttony. Thoes who over indulge get fat regardless of WHAT they eat.

I'm not talking about Eskimos today nor am I talking about Native Indians today.

I'm talking about the original eskimos and native indians when they ate a high percentage raw diet.

You cant speculate that. There isn't enough evidence to prove anything. Unless you can find every picture of everyone who lived back then. But your not going to. Who says that pictures of native americans didn't have balders under those headdresses? Or eskimos? It's all just a crazy theory then. the population was probably lower then so the occurance of it was lower to non existant. Or they could of been seen as tainted and killed off. we dont know.