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Why? It might be. Why do you say that?
The science of intermittent fasting
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Why? It might be. Why do you say that?
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What I've seen of Indian restaurants is that they use a huge amount of heated vegetable oils and simple carbs. As such the food is inflammatory, raises insulin, and overall not ideal. I think that Indian restaurants are for the most part enablers of diabetes. If you love Indian food and you want to be healthy, your only options are to either eat it much less often, or cook it at home in a manner that adjusts the recipes. When you cook it at home, you can restrict the carbohydrates/sugars, use better fats, and use more vegetables.
There are good aspects to Indian food. For example ghee (clarified butter) is wonderful for heated foods, but it's expensive so I doubt Indian restaurants use it. Cauliflower, keffir, yogurt, etc are all wonderful. Stay away from the breads.
Now with respect with your metabolism, total fasting (as in no calories consumed, but please take water) increases metabolism by about 10% within a few days. However, if you're consuming a small amount of carbs and proteins, you never get the metabolic advantages of fasting, your insulin doesn't drop and your human growth hormone doesn't rise, and thus your body cannot convert adipose fat into energy and your metabolism just drops. There are lots of studies which show that low-calorie diets just reduce metabolism.
If you're pre-diabetic, here are two choices for you:
1) Reduce simple sugars, eat more healthy fats instead like avocado, oily fish, nuts, olives, coconut, eggs, meat, etc, and do some exercise especially high-intensity cardio and resistance training;
2) Do some long fasts, I suspect that 36 hours is the minimum for therapeutic advantages, as in eat a dinner on Saturday night and then eat a breakfast on Monday morning. 60 hours is better than 36, and 84 hours is better than 60 hours.
1 and 2 are not mutually exclusive, but one may be easier for you due to psychological issues.
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What I do know is that white rice does cause diabetes, which is in Indian food, and a lot of
Asian restaurants do carry white rice.. But so do a lot of things, like
diet soft drinks (Diet Coke, Diet Pepsi).
It's funny, I have friends with type two diabetes, which is reversible. And I think that it's
because they have stationary jobs, which they do forty hours a week.
Asian restaurants do carry white rice.. But so do a lot of things, like
diet soft drinks (Diet Coke, Diet Pepsi).
It's funny, I have friends with type two diabetes, which is reversible. And I think that it's
because they have stationary jobs, which they do forty hours a week.
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Thank you. That's very good advice. Definitely going to try the two options above.
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The rice used in Indian restaurants is typically basmati rice, as far as white rice goes it's actually one of the better ones. Given your current health state, you should avoid it, but once your health improves it's good for you to know that basmati rice is actually one of the better ones.
Diet soda should be avoided. I now drink it less than once a month.
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This just in, intermittent fasting (six hundred calories a day) actually reverses type two diabetes!
Was talking to a friend of mine who has that. He was telling it was not reversible, and I was fucked (I'm on
my way, not there yet).
We will see about that. I plan on
1. Running (jogging) a half mile every day!
2. Always taking the steps at work (I'm running them, and I have twelve flights of stairts, ten
steps each (not big ones, third floor/ 120 steps).
3. Eat GLUTEN FREE. That's right, I'm having Cheerios and Skim Milk for breakfast
everyday.
And, the best thing is, people DON'T NEED BARIATRIC SURGERY (OR ANY SURGERY) TO DO THIS!
It's here: http://care.diabetesjournals.org/content/36/4/1047
Was talking to a friend of mine who has that. He was telling it was not reversible, and I was fucked (I'm on
my way, not there yet).
We will see about that. I plan on
1. Running (jogging) a half mile every day!
2. Always taking the steps at work (I'm running them, and I have twelve flights of stairts, ten
steps each (not big ones, third floor/ 120 steps).
3. Eat GLUTEN FREE. That's right, I'm having Cheerios and Skim Milk for breakfast
everyday.
And, the best thing is, people DON'T NEED BARIATRIC SURGERY (OR ANY SURGERY) TO DO THIS!
It's here: http://care.diabetesjournals.org/content/36/4/1047
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You're SO RIGHT about that Pasbrillantebrunette. But I love diet soft drinks,
which have proven to be JUST AS BAD, if not worse in some ways.
Easier said than done, I suppose. I cut them out, but not all of them.
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Not true crazy man
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Aspartame is bad.
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What are you talking about?
Diet soda is just as shitty for you.
There's a thin line between crazy and genius, if you know what I mean (maybe you don't).
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Studies say otherwise: https://www.bu.edu/research/articles/soda-bad-for-brain/
There's a lot more. The study above says people who use diet soft soft drinks have three times
the chance of developing dementia/Alzheimer's than those who don't.
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Is 36hours fast with tea/water enough to attack your organ fat ? Given that you do it once per week?
Im generally interested in fasting bc hgh boost and loss of organ fat seems legit but i dont want to lose to much weight in a short time spane since it can highlight your ageing
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1247315/How-face-reveals-traumas-youve--ageing-faster.html
Im generally interested in fasting bc hgh boost and loss of organ fat seems legit but i dont want to lose to much weight in a short time spane since it can highlight your ageing
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1247315/How-face-reveals-traumas-youve--ageing-faster.html
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Longer fasts are better. There's a threshold where fasting improves a lot after ~18 hours, that means that in a 36 hour fast you get 18 hours of greatness, whereas in a 60-hour fast you get 42 hours of greatness. There's another threshold after 3 days.
Regardless, if you want a relative reduction of organ fat, the following strategies will be effective:
- Fasting regularly of any length, though longer is better. 36 hour fasts once a week will yield dividends after a couple months.
- This also includes breaks between meals rather than constant snacking.
- Resistance training and high-intensity interval training.
- A diet that involves more complex carbs, fats, fiber, and fewer simple carbs and in particular less fructose. It's possible that fructose is much less bed when consumed with fiber.
- Bonus: Have a little bit of vinegar prior to meals involving carbohydrates. Multiple studies have shown that it blunts and slows the insulin and glucose response to carb-rich meals.
I'm currently on the third day of a fast, I have not eaten since Sunday night other than sparkling water, coffee, tea, and a bit of cream and lime juice for flavouring, I hope to go on until Friday. I'm mostly doing it for compensation as I have non-stop travelling and social events from Thanksgiving (a month ago) through to mid-February.
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How much weight do you lost so far?
I assume if u fast 36 once per week the weightloss wont be that dramatic? (Im not intending to lose much weight, 1-2 kg fat would be nice tho)
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My peak weight was 240 lbs, I started fasting around 200 lbs, now I'm 175 lbs. My fasting schedule is irregular, and I often eat badly when not fasting which should be my priority at this point.
Water/tea/coffee/salt is likely most efficient, many people say only filtered water and maybe salt but I'm not convinced. A juice diet has different advantages. It loads you up on micronutrients, and it might be good for the digestive system. But a lot of people don't lose weight on it, or if they do it doesn't stay off.
Recommendation to you: just do one 36-hour fast to see how it goes.
For dinner, have a non-sugary, non-starchy meal, for example steak and Brussel sprouts, or salmon and broccoli, or eggs and avocado, whatever. If you're a vegan have beans, tofu, and spinach, or something. Then the next day consume nothing but water, sparkling water, tea, coffee, and then write down your experiences the day after when you have a normal breakfast.
The first fast won't transform you physically, but you'll see how it affects you physically. Note that it's common to get tired the first time, your body isn't used it. Since you're athletic it shouldn't be so bad for you.
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@Afro_Vacancy
Im 6'4 and was always between 87-96 kg in the last years..i was over 100kg 8 years ago..felt like sh*t..especially since i have a genetically determined very bad fat distribution meaning that i store all my fat at the belly and neck and nothing at the legs/butt..probably a ton of visceral fat too
This is why weight or bmi are not really that important..its more about fat/muscle ratio and esprcially fat distribution
Will definitely try 36h fast now
What is your opinion on sulforaphan?
https://www.foundmyfitness.com/news...cteria_increasing_mitochondria_in_fat_in_mice
It may have a good effect on dht too
Im 6'4 and was always between 87-96 kg in the last years..i was over 100kg 8 years ago..felt like sh*t..especially since i have a genetically determined very bad fat distribution meaning that i store all my fat at the belly and neck and nothing at the legs/butt..probably a ton of visceral fat too
This is why weight or bmi are not really that important..its more about fat/muscle ratio and esprcially fat distribution
Will definitely try 36h fast now
What is your opinion on sulforaphan?
https://www.foundmyfitness.com/news...cteria_increasing_mitochondria_in_fat_in_mice
It may have a good effect on dht too
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Sulforophane is promising but I'd like to see more research.
What I've seen of that drug is good, but I'm honestly skeptical of all research published on herbs, etc. Part of that is that in my time on this hair loss forum I've learned that hair loss has been nearly cured so many times: pumpkin seed oil, saw palmetto, rice bran oil, he shon wu, laminar japonica, distance tubulosa, etc etc etc. I despair that the herbal medicine literature may be overwhelmingly bullshit.
Let me know how things go for you.
I also put fat on my neck/jaw and it's annoying, as it's arguably the ugliest kind of fat.
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Yeah i dont mean regarding hairloss but regarding visceral fat..with mice the results looked promising..but again..mice