Discussion in 'New Research, Studies, and Technologies' started by Screeech, Jun 25, 2019.
This is great, maintenance without sides is a cure for most of us.
I would hold off on celebrating it as the cure to everyone's problems.
I get the feeling it doesn't work for everyone.
I think the fact that I have had great results with just a 2.5% solution once a day (less than what was used in the trials which only had tepid results) further illustrates that I am very sensitive to anti-androgens (or at least CB) and respond well to it as a result.
I think if it doesn't work oh-flutamide and darolutamide may be other good anti-androgen alternatives to try as in theory they are meant to be side-effect free from what I understand but significantly stronger.
I guess it's just a good other option (CB) for people who finasteride doesn't work for, as I am an example of.
Doesn't hurt to try a few other things, especially when it is purportedly side-effect free like CB appears to be.
I have got to look into researching and procuring cb one of these days...my hair insecurity comes in waves. A few weeks of scrutinizing and then a few weeks of not caring. Vicious cycle.
Would it work mixing the cb powder into kirkland minoxidil solution once a week?
I don't understand.
You are going to use CB once a week or you are going to make a batch up once a week that you will use daily?
I think it would probably work okay in minoxidil solution, but you need to be able to see the solution - so probably put it in a vial or something - because the CB powder doesn't always dissolve instantly and sometimes needs to be shaken for close to 5 minutes.
Apologies I meant I will make a batch weekly, and use it daily.
That makes sense for being able to see the solution.
I was just thinking it might be more convenient to add it to my minoxidil since im already using minoxidil!
Is there any benefit to using another vehicle instead of minoxidil?
I think different vehicles will allow the CB to have more efficacy, but how much more is up for debate.
I would imagine it would work in a minoxidil solution to some degree, although I am no expert.
I'm using it in a cosmetic product that is probably pretty similar to a commercial minoxidil product and it works so I would imagine a minoxidil product would have a decent chance of doing something similar.
Whats your monthly cost for this ?
$45 USD since I bought 10 grams for $600 USD, but my original purchase was $56 USD from buying 4 grams for $300 USD.
All depends on how many mcg you need a day though. I am evidently quite sensitive so I don't need much, but regardless I believe microneedling for penetration at about .25mm will allow you to use about half as much as you would regularly as it increases absorption by typically 80%.
I'm guessing as this guy never replied what "Sabrina" said about him giving the wrong address is probably true.
FWIW, she said to me if you don't get the delivery they'll send another one out for free.
Maybe just to be sure ask her before you pay.
I got my second purchase delivered by them no worries last week.
But I still wasn't able to get a signature on delivery set-up arranged, but she just said they would send a replacement if there were any problems. Who knows?
Kane probably a really good place to buy too, just a little bit more expensive.
Is everybody here ordering CB in the US?
No, I'm from Aus and there's people from all over the world buying from Wuhan.
They apparently have different methods to get it through customs depending on the country. Something like that.
First off great thread and ty for creating it. Quite helpful. finasteride caused me to itch and sheds; Telogen Effluvium to be exact but now that I weened myself to finasteride topical application once a week, my hair is coming back and shed is very little. Do you think you coming off finasteride added to your improvement and not just cb alone?
I think finasteride made my hair loss worse, yes.
Do you think taking it once a week is giving you less loss than not being on it at all?
Honestly, I’m still trying to figure this out. finasteride definitely made me worst than baseline. Lost over 60% density on finasteride but I’m recovering.
Yes, I started shedding really short hairs as well as the uniformly same length hairs that you traditionally shed.
I was only taking .5mg every second day for the first half of my time on it but then worked up to 1g a day, but still no change.
Interesting if once a week works better than nothing for some people.
I would recommend getting blood test for DHT (I think it's serum that they can do) before you start using and then when you're on because it can give you a good idea of to what extent it is actually working.
no way you lost 60% of your density on finasteride.
taking finasteride once a week is totally dumb
cant you just order a month's worth? I dont want to spend a fuckton of grams on it only to find out its yet another treatment that does sh*t nothing
how many months did you take it to see that it was worth continuing?
It took about 3 weeks for it to be obvious that it was working to some degree then it continued to improve.
But, everyone responds differently. Might take other people 2 months for it to be obvious. IDK.
Also, I used 25mcg a day which is tiny. The trials used at least three times as much if I'm not mistaken so what lasted me 4 months might last others 1.5, although I feel 25mcg is a good dosage amount all things considered, I just think they massively over-dose people on stuff in trials to make sure even the stubborn responders and outliers are affected.
If you've tried other anti-androgens then I'd probably give it a miss anyway as I believe this is one of the absolute weaker ones. Maybe I'm wrong though.
"Sabrina" said to me that Wuhan will be having a sale during September for all their hair loss treatments, so maybe wait till then and see how cheap it is.