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I'm making a thread because I can't find one where users of the drug exclusively discuss progress, questions and such.
Also, because the term 'CB 03 01' cannot be searched through the search function due to "the search keywords [being] too short, too long, or too common" it's hard to track down all the posts on the site regarding it.
Edit: I thought I would sticky this to the first post so it's the easiest to find.
For people who are wondering how to go about using CB effectively, it's pretty easy after you get the hang of it after doing it the first time.
Here's what you need:
Mini measuring spoons - https://www.google.com/search?clien....485.2-2......0....1..gws-wiz-img.ycaMDNtKM9U
Digital scales (a .001 gram one [the one I've listed comes with a small plastic weighing dish as well which you'll also need]) - https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/High-Pr...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649
15ml or 30ml amber glass vial/ bottle to store solution in fridge - https://www.google.com/search?q=amb...g_LiAhUKWCsKHWwCCaYQ_AUIECgB&biw=1280&bih=648
A "mini funnel set" to pour the powder into the vials, and then the vehicle - https://www.google.com/search?q=min...hPLiAhUVU30KHQ6cCkYQ_AUIESgC&biw=1280&bih=648
Small medicine measuring cup to measure out the vehicle - https://www.google.com/search?q=sma...hPLiAhUEfisKHbxQC24Q_AUIECgB&biw=1280&bih=648
1ml calibrated glass dropper/ 1ml fine insulin syringe to apply topical to scalp out of the vial -
CB that I use: https://www.alibaba.com/product-det...a2756.order-detail-ta-ta-b.0.0.772b2fc2eaUt3a
Apparently cheaper option of it if bought in bulk (10+ grams): https://www.alibaba.com/product-det...ml?spm=a2700.icbuShop.41413.21.48801a9bPb2zFX
Vehicle that I use (it's an Australian product): https://www.google.com/search?q=red...v5fkAhVDjuYKHarqBIIQ_AUIEigC&biw=1280&bih=648
You simply weigh the CB on the scales by scooping some into the plastic weighing dish that comes with the scales, then once you have the amount you tap it into the head of the funnel which should be placed inside the vial you are putting everything into. I balance the handle of the funnel on a plastic container of similar height so I don't have to hold it as I'm doing everything. Give the funnel a few taps to get the powder to knock it down the funnel hole into the vial.
Then you get the measured out amount of stemox (or whatever vehicle), and pour it from the medicine measuring cup into the funnel head. This will wash whatever residual powder remains into the vial too. You can also use a dropper to directly target any spots of powder so you get absolutely everything wet and then washed down.
Then you just put the lid on the vial and shake it up until everything is dissolved - sometimes it takes 3 minutes or so and other times everything pretty much dissolves on the spot.
Then store in the fridge in a dark spot - I put mine inside a box, and that's it.
As far as percentages. 1ml of solution and 25mg of powder equals 2.5% so if you want to make a batch for 10 days you get 10ml of solution and mix it with 250mg of powder. If you wanted to do 5% then it would be 500mg in 10ml.
Make sure to shake the vial when you get it out of the fridge before using it each time too.
And that's it. Takes about 5 minutes to make it up after doing it the first time. Put some newspaper down on the table you are doing it at because a bit of vehicle and powder will get strewn about during the process.
Good luck!
Edit: Make sure to store the powder in the fridge too - inside something airtight and opaque such as the plastic ziplock and aluminium ziplock bag combo that the CB from Alibaba, and I believe Kane too, come in would be the recommendation.
Edit2: And, anyone who lands here who isn't using CB and decides they are going to try it, just remember that no one drug works for absolutely everyone. There are so many examples on here of people who have tried 'Drug X & Y' and it didn't work but 'Drug Z' did. Everyone responds differently to different treatments and the same pathology of hereditary hair loss is not applicable to everyone.
There are people on here who have had great results with seti and darolutamide, just to name a few while they did nothing for others; illustrating the enigma that is hair loss and its treatment.
So don't use it expecting it's definitely going to work, because it might not for you, but don't give up if that's the case and look to other alternate treatments because you just might find one of those is the one for you.
Also, I'm currently paying $56 USD a month to use 25 mg of CB a day, but it depends on how easily it's absorbed in your scalp as in the trials three times as much was often used and was seen to be the recommended dosage, although I think it's probably a similar to case to finasteride where .25 mg/ .5 mg EOD is more than sufficient but they bump it up to make sure it covers absolutely everyone that it possibly can including the outliers who have reduced sensitivity.
If you microneedle you can probably get away with using half as much which would mean you will pay half as much, and if you buy in bulk you can get it much cheaper per gram. For example, I paid $300 USD for 4 grams, but places like Wuhan and Kane will sell 10 grams for around $600-$700, but I advise buying a small amount first up as as I said before, it's not going to work for everyone, so make sure it does for you before you outlay an unnecessarily large amount of money.
And, if you can't find Redken stemoxydine to use as a vehicle, the L'Oreal one and the Garnier one (although I've read it smells a bit - Redken smells great!) most likely will work just as well, although I've never tried them so can't say categorically. As I write this right now the Garnier one sells on eBay US very cheaply in 2-packs and 3-packs. Personally I think anything with a bit of alcohol in it like commercial minoxidil liquids (not the foams) will work, but I will leave that up to others to experiment. If you want to use something cleaner and more bare bones, and something more resembling what they use in trials then I think ethanol (search "90%+ rectified spirit" if ethanol doesn't appear to be available in your country) + propylene glycol (PG) is meant to be pretty good, but I don't know the right amount of each to use.
Good luck guys!
Also, because the term 'CB 03 01' cannot be searched through the search function due to "the search keywords [being] too short, too long, or too common" it's hard to track down all the posts on the site regarding it.
Edit: I thought I would sticky this to the first post so it's the easiest to find.
For people who are wondering how to go about using CB effectively, it's pretty easy after you get the hang of it after doing it the first time.
Here's what you need:
Mini measuring spoons - https://www.google.com/search?clien....485.2-2......0....1..gws-wiz-img.ycaMDNtKM9U
Digital scales (a .001 gram one [the one I've listed comes with a small plastic weighing dish as well which you'll also need]) - https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/High-Pr...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649
15ml or 30ml amber glass vial/ bottle to store solution in fridge - https://www.google.com/search?q=amb...g_LiAhUKWCsKHWwCCaYQ_AUIECgB&biw=1280&bih=648
A "mini funnel set" to pour the powder into the vials, and then the vehicle - https://www.google.com/search?q=min...hPLiAhUVU30KHQ6cCkYQ_AUIESgC&biw=1280&bih=648
Small medicine measuring cup to measure out the vehicle - https://www.google.com/search?q=sma...hPLiAhUEfisKHbxQC24Q_AUIECgB&biw=1280&bih=648
1ml calibrated glass dropper/ 1ml fine insulin syringe to apply topical to scalp out of the vial -
CB that I use: https://www.alibaba.com/product-det...a2756.order-detail-ta-ta-b.0.0.772b2fc2eaUt3a
Apparently cheaper option of it if bought in bulk (10+ grams): https://www.alibaba.com/product-det...ml?spm=a2700.icbuShop.41413.21.48801a9bPb2zFX
Vehicle that I use (it's an Australian product): https://www.google.com/search?q=red...v5fkAhVDjuYKHarqBIIQ_AUIEigC&biw=1280&bih=648
You simply weigh the CB on the scales by scooping some into the plastic weighing dish that comes with the scales, then once you have the amount you tap it into the head of the funnel which should be placed inside the vial you are putting everything into. I balance the handle of the funnel on a plastic container of similar height so I don't have to hold it as I'm doing everything. Give the funnel a few taps to get the powder to knock it down the funnel hole into the vial.
Then you get the measured out amount of stemox (or whatever vehicle), and pour it from the medicine measuring cup into the funnel head. This will wash whatever residual powder remains into the vial too. You can also use a dropper to directly target any spots of powder so you get absolutely everything wet and then washed down.
Then you just put the lid on the vial and shake it up until everything is dissolved - sometimes it takes 3 minutes or so and other times everything pretty much dissolves on the spot.
Then store in the fridge in a dark spot - I put mine inside a box, and that's it.
As far as percentages. 1ml of solution and 25mg of powder equals 2.5% so if you want to make a batch for 10 days you get 10ml of solution and mix it with 250mg of powder. If you wanted to do 5% then it would be 500mg in 10ml.
Make sure to shake the vial when you get it out of the fridge before using it each time too.
And that's it. Takes about 5 minutes to make it up after doing it the first time. Put some newspaper down on the table you are doing it at because a bit of vehicle and powder will get strewn about during the process.
Good luck!
Edit: Make sure to store the powder in the fridge too - inside something airtight and opaque such as the plastic ziplock and aluminium ziplock bag combo that the CB from Alibaba, and I believe Kane too, come in would be the recommendation.
Edit2: And, anyone who lands here who isn't using CB and decides they are going to try it, just remember that no one drug works for absolutely everyone. There are so many examples on here of people who have tried 'Drug X & Y' and it didn't work but 'Drug Z' did. Everyone responds differently to different treatments and the same pathology of hereditary hair loss is not applicable to everyone.
There are people on here who have had great results with seti and darolutamide, just to name a few while they did nothing for others; illustrating the enigma that is hair loss and its treatment.
So don't use it expecting it's definitely going to work, because it might not for you, but don't give up if that's the case and look to other alternate treatments because you just might find one of those is the one for you.
Also, I'm currently paying $56 USD a month to use 25 mg of CB a day, but it depends on how easily it's absorbed in your scalp as in the trials three times as much was often used and was seen to be the recommended dosage, although I think it's probably a similar to case to finasteride where .25 mg/ .5 mg EOD is more than sufficient but they bump it up to make sure it covers absolutely everyone that it possibly can including the outliers who have reduced sensitivity.
If you microneedle you can probably get away with using half as much which would mean you will pay half as much, and if you buy in bulk you can get it much cheaper per gram. For example, I paid $300 USD for 4 grams, but places like Wuhan and Kane will sell 10 grams for around $600-$700, but I advise buying a small amount first up as as I said before, it's not going to work for everyone, so make sure it does for you before you outlay an unnecessarily large amount of money.
And, if you can't find Redken stemoxydine to use as a vehicle, the L'Oreal one and the Garnier one (although I've read it smells a bit - Redken smells great!) most likely will work just as well, although I've never tried them so can't say categorically. As I write this right now the Garnier one sells on eBay US very cheaply in 2-packs and 3-packs. Personally I think anything with a bit of alcohol in it like commercial minoxidil liquids (not the foams) will work, but I will leave that up to others to experiment. If you want to use something cleaner and more bare bones, and something more resembling what they use in trials then I think ethanol (search "90%+ rectified spirit" if ethanol doesn't appear to be available in your country) + propylene glycol (PG) is meant to be pretty good, but I don't know the right amount of each to use.
Good luck guys!
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