What does everyone think about this one (other than the price)?
http://www.microneedle.com/main/mts-clinical.html
http://www.microneedle.com/main/mts-clinical.html
Skin Needling
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Jkkezh
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mulder said:
Maybe people don't like sticking needles in their heads.
But anyway I think you are right. I have the feeling that you need something more rigorous then just a topical cream or pill to get some real regrowth on places hair has been gone for a while. (if possible at all)
mulder
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Well after reading all the anecdotal reports of success and pretty much no one screaming about hair loss or infection because of it I went ahead and got the Novaderm roller- using a single needle seems like it would take too long and is a little too impercise. The novaderm seems to be about the proper length for this to work- 0.75 mm needles on the roller. Bought it for about $100 USD on ebay.
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Hi,
I have been trying needling for about 1.5 months with just a single drawing pin. I have seen new fuzzy hairs around my hairline where I needle. This methods works, althoug my eyes water like mad afterwards!
But I have questions. Will I have to needle forever to keep the new hair once it grows? Can needling cause any damage if used long term? What about infection?
Any replies welcome.
Silverfox
I have been trying needling for about 1.5 months with just a single drawing pin. I have seen new fuzzy hairs around my hairline where I needle. This methods works, althoug my eyes water like mad afterwards!
But I have questions. Will I have to needle forever to keep the new hair once it grows? Can needling cause any damage if used long term? What about infection?
Any replies welcome.
Silverfox
That company that sells the "Microneedle" that is in the link I posted above requires me to fill out and mail in a certification form of "professional clinical status" for the CR5 model that I want (0.5mm). Only the CR2 (0.2mm) and CR3 (.03mm) models are available to the personal consumer which, according to everyone here, are not worth using.
I know that you can get a dermaroller that's 0.75mm but I don't want that one. The MTS microneedle rollers are FAR higher quality and the CR5 (.05mm) model is actually cheaper ($88.00).
I think this requirement of theirs is retarded, since anyone can go to ebay and get a much more "dangerous" one. However, I don't want to falsify a document (even though they probably don't verify).
Does anyone here have some type of "professional clinical status" that would be willing to certify and order this thing for me? I would gladly pay you the $35.00 difference in what I would have to for the "consumer" model.
I know that you can get a dermaroller that's 0.75mm but I don't want that one. The MTS microneedle rollers are FAR higher quality and the CR5 (.05mm) model is actually cheaper ($88.00).
I think this requirement of theirs is retarded, since anyone can go to ebay and get a much more "dangerous" one. However, I don't want to falsify a document (even though they probably don't verify).
Does anyone here have some type of "professional clinical status" that would be willing to certify and order this thing for me? I would gladly pay you the $35.00 difference in what I would have to for the "consumer" model.
Renegade - what makes you say that the MTS needles are of higher quality? (I assume it's do with the metal that's used, and I don't understand the science there.) I looked on the web site & didn't see a price for the .5mm needle; how'd you find you out that it's $88? also, the web site says that the "clinical" needle (the 0.5mm one) is good for only 10 applications and then must be replaced. see this this page, down at the bottom:
http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache
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and in that case, the $88 doesn't seem like such a great buy. Unless you have reason to doubt that that is really necessary.
http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache
O ... =clnk&cd=1and in that case, the $88 doesn't seem like such a great buy. Unless you have reason to doubt that that is really necessary.
Bump - Got another question about this needling thing:
The science behind it is based on the wounding/healing that supposedly triggers regrowth. So, where does that leave the inflamation factor. Wouldn't doing this cause inflammation (which is said to be a major factor of male pattern baldness) and hurt more than help? Please discuss.
BTW - Mulder, have you received/used your dermaroller yet? If so, please tell us what you think. Pain, blood, everything!
The science behind it is based on the wounding/healing that supposedly triggers regrowth. So, where does that leave the inflamation factor. Wouldn't doing this cause inflammation (which is said to be a major factor of male pattern baldness) and hurt more than help? Please discuss.
BTW - Mulder, have you received/used your dermaroller yet? If so, please tell us what you think. Pain, blood, everything!
mulder
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Still waiting for my roller to arrive...I think it'll take a couple more weeks.
The explanations I've seen for why it might works focus on two possible mechanisms. Mulching up old fibrosis, increasing vascularization and encouraging new collagen; or increasing the ability of topicals to penetrate the scalp... Most people using it seem to think it has more to do with the former.
The explanations I've seen for why it might works focus on two possible mechanisms. Mulching up old fibrosis, increasing vascularization and encouraging new collagen; or increasing the ability of topicals to penetrate the scalp... Most people using it seem to think it has more to do with the former.