Should brothels be legalized?
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Bald Dave
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Yes they should. They would be screened so its safe for both the worker and the client, they would pay taxes so that they contribute to society and it would be safer environment for the worker. Also there would be no more stigma attached to prostition like it is when its illegal. Amsterdam is a good example of this as i know many people go on stag weekends there but none would admit that they visit brothels in this country.
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YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS they should. Just makes sense, but the state prefers to moralise as opposed to doing what's best.
The Gardener
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Heck NO! All that extra overhead and tax liability would drive up prices!vauxall said:
ali777
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The Gardener said:
There was this case in the UK about a female police officer moonlighting as an escort. As far as I know, she lost her job and got a short-ish jail sentence.
Anyway, I read in the newspaper that the pimp who ran the brothel where she worked got 30% of the fees. 30% is a rather large overhead.
IMO, legal prostitution should be cheaper than the underground kind. I hear in New Zealand the McBJ is pretty much a reality. Well I read about it in a newspaper so I presume there must be a degree of truth to it.
vauxall
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The Gardener said:
Are you sure? I used to go a well known brothel in Manchester city centre. I used to pay £60 for the girl, of which £20 went to the girl, £10 to the receptionist and the rest to the pimp, that is the Mancunian mafia. If brothels were legalized many girls would work together and probably hire a receptionist and pay the receptionist only.
The Gardener
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Sure, legalizing it would cut out the parasitic "mafia", but would introduce a NEW parasitic "mafia"... The government.
Payroll taxes (Fed tax, State tax, Social Security, Medicare, etc) are probably 15-20% right off the top. Then you got to add in the medical component... which in the US is exhorbitantly expensive. Then, you know that if brothels were legalized, the government would need to set up some regulatory agency to "license" and "inspect" them. This would entail fees, as the government won't issue you any license, form, or inspection certificate unless you pay fees. On top of this you would absolutely need insurance. When you do the brothel "under the table", if someone gets sick, gets hurt, catches an STD, etc.. you could just tell that customer to stuff off, or if the heat were high enough you could move. If you run a legal brothel, insurance liability would, in my opinion, probably be through the ceiling.
As you say, you would still need to pay the receptionist... but before you cut off the pimp, perhaps you should first consider the services that the pimp provides. The pimp does your marketing, and provides security. If you are running a legal brothel, you will still need to market your services, and you definitely need security and protection. Because the law probably frowns upon individual armed "enforcers" preserving security through intimidation, you would instead need to hire some legal security service, and I would venture a guess that these services are also fairly expensive.
There are differences in the physical overhead cost structure as well. If you are running under the table, you can run a brothel out of any old structure, office space, storefront, or residence. If brothels were legalized, the physical structure would need to meet commercial real estate code... in the US, this entails ensuring proper fire supression systems are installed, access for disabled people, etc.
So... I'm not really sure if it would be cheaper or not.
Payroll taxes (Fed tax, State tax, Social Security, Medicare, etc) are probably 15-20% right off the top. Then you got to add in the medical component... which in the US is exhorbitantly expensive. Then, you know that if brothels were legalized, the government would need to set up some regulatory agency to "license" and "inspect" them. This would entail fees, as the government won't issue you any license, form, or inspection certificate unless you pay fees. On top of this you would absolutely need insurance. When you do the brothel "under the table", if someone gets sick, gets hurt, catches an STD, etc.. you could just tell that customer to stuff off, or if the heat were high enough you could move. If you run a legal brothel, insurance liability would, in my opinion, probably be through the ceiling.
As you say, you would still need to pay the receptionist... but before you cut off the pimp, perhaps you should first consider the services that the pimp provides. The pimp does your marketing, and provides security. If you are running a legal brothel, you will still need to market your services, and you definitely need security and protection. Because the law probably frowns upon individual armed "enforcers" preserving security through intimidation, you would instead need to hire some legal security service, and I would venture a guess that these services are also fairly expensive.
There are differences in the physical overhead cost structure as well. If you are running under the table, you can run a brothel out of any old structure, office space, storefront, or residence. If brothels were legalized, the physical structure would need to meet commercial real estate code... in the US, this entails ensuring proper fire supression systems are installed, access for disabled people, etc.
So... I'm not really sure if it would be cheaper or not.
somone uk
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deffo, we should have brothels
how else do people with hairloss get some :hump:
i think it's fucked up, this policeman told me prostitution is legal but paying for sex is illegal over here and also brothels are illegal
imho i think we should have what Nevada have where there are licensed brothels and if i am not mistaken it's all condom only
how else do people with hairloss get some :hump:
i think it's fucked up, this policeman told me prostitution is legal but paying for sex is illegal over here and also brothels are illegal
imho i think we should have what Nevada have where there are licensed brothels and if i am not mistaken it's all condom only
mykal_P
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I think it should be. Might benefit some of society's misfits and loners. Less rage equals less killing sprees and dead hookers.
Could you imagine the tv ads if brothels were legal. Come to mistress mindy's, family owned and operated for over 2 years. Don't forget to bring your buy one get one free coupon in sunday's paper.
Could you imagine the tv ads if brothels were legal. Come to mistress mindy's, family owned and operated for over 2 years. Don't forget to bring your buy one get one free coupon in sunday's paper.
s.a.f
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somone uk said:hmm it would help the economy and offer protection for what are inevitably prostitutes
can anyone give a down side
Would you like it to be located down your street?
If it was seen as a legitimate job how would you feel about it if your own daughter decided to career in it?
s.a.f
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vauxall said:
Some people dont think so ... :whistle:
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ali777
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vauxall said:
I've never paid for sex, but I can see why some men would do it. I do have to admit that sometimes getting laid without any complications sounds very attractive.
I wouldn't call the punters misfits or loners, lots of high profile people do it as well. Sex, especially the easy kind is very acceptable these days.
mykal_P
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I said it might benefit some of society's misfits and loners, but I did not say those are the only ones that would be using it. I was just spouting on the benefits for that segment of the population.
Yeah thinking my daughter(if i ever had one) might end up there someday is a scary thought. This would be an end to pimps everywhere I think, unless they diversified somehow.
Yeah thinking my daughter(if i ever had one) might end up there someday is a scary thought. This would be an end to pimps everywhere I think, unless they diversified somehow.
ali777
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Good points there...
TBH, I'm not sure. It depends on how discrete it is. If it is something just down the road that doesn't affect my life, I wouldn't care.
I know a guy who lives across a pub and the pub has just recently been granted a 3am license. He says it gets really bad on the weekends, and they've been asking the city council to review the license...
Anyway, my point is, even the current legitimate business aren't necessarily good for their neighbourhoods. Having a brothel down the street sounds seedy, but I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be as bad as a pub down the street.
hmmm.... I think the real answer is that we wouldn't know until we are put in that situation.
I personally would object to my hypothetical daughter working in the sex industry. I guess that's one of the reasons why I've never been to a brothel.
Saying that.... If she ends up working in a brothel, then what do you do? Cut all ties with her, or try to be supportive in a sense that you make sure she knows what she's doing?
s.a.f said:
TBH, I'm not sure. It depends on how discrete it is. If it is something just down the road that doesn't affect my life, I wouldn't care.
I know a guy who lives across a pub and the pub has just recently been granted a 3am license. He says it gets really bad on the weekends, and they've been asking the city council to review the license...
Anyway, my point is, even the current legitimate business aren't necessarily good for their neighbourhoods. Having a brothel down the street sounds seedy, but I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be as bad as a pub down the street.
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hmmm.... I think the real answer is that we wouldn't know until we are put in that situation.
I personally would object to my hypothetical daughter working in the sex industry. I guess that's one of the reasons why I've never been to a brothel.
Saying that.... If she ends up working in a brothel, then what do you do? Cut all ties with her, or try to be supportive in a sense that you make sure she knows what she's doing?
somone uk
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s.a.f said:[quote="somone uk":2pyq0ade]hmm it would help the economy and offer protection for what are inevitably prostitutes
can anyone give a down side
Would you like it to be located down your street?
If it was seen as a legitimate job how would you feel about it if your own daughter decided to career in it?[/quote:2pyq0ade]
yes i would love one down my street, if the employees are hot it would become my second home
with the second question, i wouldn't willingly have a child because i wouldn't want to give them male pattern baldness but if i did have a child and she wanted to become a prostitute the chances are she would just be following in her mother's footsteps