Setipiprant Does Work, But Only On Really Really High Doses.

westonci

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just a warning

Some guy on this forum just PMed me and he just had his seti tested by janoshik and it was is not seti. The labtesters best guess is oxidized seti.

I asked another member on the private forum what "oxidised seti" means and he said it was old stale rubbish seti at best more likely wasn't produced properly in the first place
 

Chimac07

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just a warning

Some guy on this forum just PMed me and he just had his seti tested by janoshik and it was is not seti. The labtesters best guess is oxidized seti.

I asked another member on the private forum what "oxidised seti" means and he said it was old stale rubbish seti at best more likely wasn't produced properly in the first place

Is member reliable or a potential Kane a**h**? And if that's the supplier you posted earlier(I don't see the post anymore), there goes my plan B after my seti looks to be sh*t as well... just blowing money away
 

rupture

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just a warning

Some guy on this forum just PMed me and he just had his seti tested by janoshik and it was is not seti. The labtesters best guess is oxidized seti.

I asked another member on the private forum what "oxidised seti" means and he said it was old stale rubbish seti at best more likely wasn't produced properly in the first place
China is half a world away, these guys are not liable for anything that happens to you. I seriously think these guys could care less if you kick from using there sh*t
 

c_super2

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Is member reliable or a potential Kane a**h**? And if that's the supplier you posted earlier(I don't see the post anymore), there goes my plan B after my seti looks to be sh*t as well... just blowing money away

How do you know its sh*t? Are you going to test it?
 

Chimac07

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How do you know its sh*t? Are you going to test it?

Every single side effect that comes with sh*t seti and not real seti, I have. I guess ill get it tested, but Im in no rush. No point in wasting another 150.00 to confirm what I pretty much already know from reading other users experiences with sh*t seti.
 

Sanchez1234

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I am the one who told Westonci. Have mentioned my sides effect earlier this forum (raging heart and trouble sleeping). Dry eyes as well but could live with it.

The reason i am not posting a mega thread about Kane is because i want him to respond first. I bought seti for 750$ so i would like to receive that back(small chance). I have ordered RU before without any side effect. Thinking about testing that as well.

Ill update if i get a reaction from Kane.
 

c_super2

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Every single side effect that comes with sh*t seti and not real seti, I have. I guess ill get it tested, but Im in no rush. No point in wasting another 150.00 to confirm what I pretty much already know from reading other users experiences with sh*t seti.

Yeah, its probably sh*t seti. But lets hope its at least real seti. Do you think it is?
 

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For Fevi/Seti suppliers :
http://www.musechem.com/product/I005253/Fevipiprant.html
http://www.medkoo.com/products/7848
http://www.sun-shinechem.com/Details/Fevipiprant(NVP-QAW039)/2535/872365-14-5.html
https://www.alibaba.com/product-det...l?spm=a2700.7724838.2017115.124.275bfceOA9oTW
https://www.alibaba.com/product-det...tml?spm=a2700.7724838.2017115.1.275bfceOA9oTW
https://www.molcore.com/product/872365-14-5.html
http://www.bioll.com/infos.asp?id=1996
http://www.chemicalbook.com/ProdSupplierGNCB52683701_EN.htm
http://www.chemicalbook.com/ProdSupplierGWCB52683701_EN.htm
http://www.biochempartner.com/products_search.aspx?keywords=&category=121803
http://www.aglichem.com/search.php

PGE 2 : http://www.biochempartner.com/product_details.aspx?item_id=7084
http://www.jkchemical.com/CH/products/search/FullTextSearch/363-24-6/2.html
http://www.tcichemicals.com/eshop/zh/cn/commodity/P1884/
http://www.energy-chemical.com.cn/product/prodtl_5672_6C43AF.html
http://www.biochembest.com/product_detail.asp?m=2&id=682&classid1=62&nclassid=199

PGE1 : http://www.biochembest.com/product_detail.asp?m=2&id=636&classid1=62&nclassid=199
http://www.meryer.com/cn/products/detail.aspx?ProID=51575
http://www.jkchemical.com/CH/products/search/cas/745-65-3.html
http://www.lancrix.com/product/detail-15-42.htm (the best one I think)
http://www.nornpharm.com/gb2312/product/745-65-3.html

This is all I can found online

If we can found one with good quality,good price and make a great GB it will be good I think.

You need for :
- Fevi : 150mg/d, 1.05g/w and app. 56g/y
OR Seti : 1,5g/d, or 10,5g/w or 546g/y
- PGE2: 100 to 200mg per year
- 5Aza Dc : 3.6mg/year.
- PGE1 : ?
 
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westonci

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Identified as Setipiprant = no

Still waiting for Kanes response, but this doesnt look good on his part.

https://www.docdroid.net/VT40fio/10...etipiprant-run-3-26-9-2017-001-2-janoshik.pdf

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Swoop

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He really needs to be put out of business. ._. We'd be better off without him.

Don't be like that. It is just sad to speak about a honest individual like that.

Kane has been tested multiple times by many members and his compounds always tested to be pure. His setipiprant has also been tested already by @hilbert and actually turned out be the right compound with appropriate purity.

What did you actually buy? You do realize that Kane sells 2 forms of setipiprant, one salted version and one normal version. He made a salt form of the drug to improve solubility (topical use).

The salted version will show differences vs the normal version in tests. FTIR will probably show major differences, NMR will also be different (depending if organic salt or mineral salt). You should ask Kane this and inform the chemist who did the testing.

Also that test report is useless without posting the full test reports. It's quite unprofessional to be honest.

If you go to his site I can only see that he only has a HPLC system? What tests were performed and how?

These are all pretty crucial questions.
 
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westonci

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Don't be like that. It is just sad to speak about a honest individual like that.

Kane has been tested multiple times by many members and his compounds always tested to be pure. His setipiprant has also been tested already by @hilbert and actually turned out be the right compound with appropriate purity.

What did you actually buy? You do realize that Kane sells 2 forms of setipiprant, one salted version and one normal version. He made a salt form of the drug to improve solubility (topical use).

The salted version will show differences vs the normal version in tests. FTIR will probably show major differences, NMR will also be different (depending if organic salt or mineral salt. You should ask Kane this and, inform the chemist who did the testing.

Also that test report is useless without posting the full test reports. It's quite unprofessional to be honest.

If you go to his site I can only see that he only has a HPLC system? What tests were performed and how?

These are all pretty crucial questions.

the email chain might be a bit confusing

Heres Kane initial response to Janoshik

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Followed by Janoshiks response


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Swoop

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the email chain might be a bit confusing

Followed by Janoshiks response

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Hmm.. Retention times are only consistent within the same sequence (identical columns, mobile phases, flow rates and temperatures). Since even slight changes to these impact the retention times, it is unusual to compare data from one sequence to another to reach a conclusion like that.

I would suggest that you confirm what form you have bought exactly with Kane, send your sample to a FDA registered lab and let them run the tests.

Also post the full test reports, including the reference.
 
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westonci

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I would suggest that you confirm what form you have bought exactly with Kane

I will ask @Sanchez1234 that, but I believe Kane sends the non-salted version by default if you dont ask for it. @Pigeon was upset when he bought seti from kane and wanted the salt version for topical, but was told to ask for it next time since he already received it.

I trust Janoshik, hes is highely regarded in steroid forums and has a solid reputation.

In the meantime i will wait for the conclusions between Kane and Janoshik.

I will keep everyone updated.
 

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Swoop

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I will ask sanchez that, but I believe Kane sends the non-salted version by default if you dont ask for it

I trust Janoshik, hes is highely regarded in steroid forums and has a solid reputation.

In the meantime i will wait for the conclusions between Kane and Janoshik.

I will keep everyone updated.

Nice, good job. I'm curious to the outcome.

I find the statement of that Jashonik guy quite ridiculous though: "There is no need to do NMR, FTIR etc with each sample when there is standard available".

Go e-mail top tier laboratories and see what they have to say about that.

For the sake of your own safety though please do understand that RC's from China, definitely a compound like setipiprant is probably often in the 98% and low 99% range, including Kane his setipiprant. There is no way Kane has a purity in the real high 99% range.

I would personally NEVER take such a compound orally unless I was certain it was of very high purity, and by very high purity I mean like +99.5%

You have got to understand that when you take a dosage of 1000mg and it is 99% pure you are taking in 10mg of (unknown) impurities orally daily. But to each his own.
 

hilbert

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Don't be like that. It is just sad to speak about a honest individual like that.

Kane has been tested multiple times by many members and his compounds always tested to be pure. His setipiprant has also been tested already by @hilbert and actually turned out be the right compound with appropriate purity.

What did you actually buy? You do realize that Kane sells 2 forms of setipiprant, one salted version and one normal version. He made a salt form of the drug to improve solubility (topical use).

The salted version will show differences vs the normal version in tests. FTIR will probably show major differences, NMR will also be different (depending if organic salt or mineral salt). You should ask Kane this and inform the chemist who did the testing.

Also that test report is useless without posting the full test reports. It's quite unprofessional to be honest.

If you go to his site I can only see that he only has a HPLC system? What tests were performed and how?

These are all pretty crucial questions.
actually i tested whp's seti, not kane's.
i did test kane's cb, with hplc. not an nmr, but it was likely legit.
 

Cody1212

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What kind of results are you guys getting? Is it worth it and can we even buy feti or is it just seti?
 
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