You want to believe. MtF's are insanely invested in their HRT protocols, defending certain meds and damning others. I think that male pattern baldness cures can be similar. Saw Palmetto at the least, pushes things in the right direction in terms of lowering DHT. It might work as maintenance somewhat for folks who eschew the non-natural remedies about.Interesting video.
I also wouldn't recommend ignoring natural treatments just because there's insufficient studies done.
It stated in this video, by a really big hair transplant surgeon in Australia, that since Saw Palmetto is a Natural substance, it doesn't have the financial backing of the big pharma to get studies done, which is often the reason people don't opt for natural treatments due to lack of evidence.
Meanwhile the reason why there's no studies done is because natural substances like natural oils (eg. Peppermint Oil, Rosemary Oil, Coconut Oil, etc) or Saw Palmetto is because their not a drug and so showing effective results of a natural substance will negatively effect big pharma's drugs.
Take what this hair transplant surgeon in the video is saying with a pinch of salt, because he mentioned he didn't really see significant results in his patients that use Saw Palmetto, but then again he clearly said he doesn't tell his patients to use Saw Palmetto, he would go through trying Finasteride, then Dutasteride if no results, then Minoxidil, LLLT, then Derma Rolling and then only recommend Saw Palmetto if he even does, which is strange because we know LLLT has no significant results. It's simply because they won't make commission money of Saw Palmetto or other natural substances like Oils which is why the don't recommend it. And they love to mention there's no studies to back it meanwhile the truth is, big pharma wouldn't do studies on it for competitive reasons.
Another point is, even if he didn't see any significant results in Saw Palmetto, that's good enough because most people would be happy with just stabilization and thickening. Even Finasteride has an extremely low percentage of regrowth as compared to its stabilizing ability.
Remember, the absence or lack of studies doesn't necessarily mean ineffectiveness.
You want to believe. MtF's are insanely invested in their HRT protocols, defending certain meds and damning others. I think that male pattern baldness cures can be similar. Saw Palmetto at the least, pushes things in the right direction in terms of lowering DHT. It might work as maintenance somewhat for folks who eschew the non-natural remedies about.
My feeling is that we all have differences related to sebum production. Until I went on HRT, I had major issues with my hair and I had to wash it once or even twice a day, if I exercised. Now, at adult female target levels for T and E2, I don't think that I really ever need to wash my hair. It never looks dirty. I don't think that washing twice a day is bad for the follicles. One presumes that doing so helps keep dermatitis and scalp flora from taking hold.Hi JaneyElizabeth, I have a few questions, could you please answers these:
Minoxidil, for example, is recommended to be used twice a day, everyday. Does that mean people have to wash their hair twice a day before using Minoxidil? Does it mean you have to use a Shampoo to wash your hair out pre-Minoxidil to get a clear scalp or should you just use water? Or are we not supposed to wash hair twice a day, and just washing hair once a day is fine?
The reason I ask all this is because from what I know, even just washing hair everyday is bad because it strips hair of its natural oils and makes it dry and thin. So it might make it counterproductive?
So I'd imagine washing hair twice a day, everyday day could possibly be even worse for hair? Or is it fine?
My feeling is that we all have differences related to sebum production. Until I went on HRT, I had major issues with my hair and I had to wash it once or even twice a day, if I exercised. Now, at adult female target levels for T and E2, I don't think that I really ever need to wash my hair. It never looks dirty. I don't think that washing twice a day is bad for the follicles. One presumes that doing so helps keep dermatitis and scalp flora from taking hold.
So, with minoxidil, you have two topical versions, foam and dropper. The minoxidil that comes in the bottle with the dropper creates a build-up in the hair, that some apparently like; I did not. The foam may be drying so one must figure out what is best depending upon scalp conditions. Loniten or oral minoxidil, including people who drizzle Kirkland's down their throat avoids this and it works far better than any other treatment based upon one recent study.
Anyway, you can't really wash yourself bald unless you have follicles in catagen and they were going to go anyway. It's a good question because hair loss can really make the grooming of scalp hair tedious and difficult in terms of covering thinning areas. You can ask me questions at any time and I appreciate your politeness. I usually hang out here:
Thank you for posting this. As a lawyer, I am more than familiar with the putrid issues in our legal system. It is corrupt from top to bottom. I will go through this carefully. I am puzzled by the lack of references to dutasteride, however. I also note, that as is common when treating the subject of medications and suicide, often in reference to meds like Effexor and Wellbutrin, the article mentions nothing about all of the suicides possibly prevented by the use of medications. Look at Tressless and look at the abject pain and yes, suicidal articulations on that site and tell me what your answer is. It might be argued that finasteride not only saved the lives of people like me, but that it also made my life much more productive and made my life something that I could cope with, thereby saving me from having to deal with the issue of suicide.Came across these law suits against Merck for the side effects of Finasteride that so many people online love to downplay or say that only a minority/small amount are affected:
If Merck can cover up stuff like this, I'm highly sure they wouldn't hesitate to cover up any other negative results from studies, inflate positive results and thereby downplay the % of users experiencing negative side effects.
Lawsuits claim baldness drug Propecia causes sex problems, depression. The judge sealed evidence – viewed by Reuters – suggesting the maker downplayed risks. A widow wants the truth out.www.reuters.com
1100 law suits!!! And this was only from America!! I mean a law suit is a lot of effort, 95% of people who have issues with a drug wouldn't take the effort to resort to going through a whole law suit. Maybe at best a small percentage will maybe post their negative experiences online or on hair loss forums. So imagine how many other people would actually be experiencing side effects from Finasteride.
let people know the truth!!!!!
"More than 1,100 Propecia-related lawsuits filed across the U.S. against Merck were consolidated before Judge Cogan in so-called multidistrict litigation (MDL). Merck agreed to settle most of them last year for $4.3 million, to be divided among the plaintiffs. Prior to the settlement, plaintiffs’ lawyers cited internal company communications to allege that in revisions to the drug’s original label, Merck understated the number of men who experienced sexual symptoms in clinical trials, and how long those symptoms lasted. Merck settled before responding to the allegation in court."
Reuters asked a U.S. judge on Thursday to unseal documents filed in court regarding potential risks associated with Propecia, Merck & Co's popular baldness drug.www.reuters.com
So much for all that bullshit about only a" minority" get side effects on Finasteride lol.
Going to bump this because I’ve been taking SP pills for around 2 weeks. And I also stopped minoxidil around 4 months ago.
Just had a shower and shed a looot of hair. It reminded me of my pre-minoxidil days. I’m not too scared of shedding as I’m used to shedding even before hair loss. But it was so much that I’m a little worried.
Would you guys attribute the random shed event to stopping minoxidil or It being SP since a lot of hair loss treatments induce shedding? I didn’t think it was minoxidil because it’s been a few months at this point and I thought I was home free
I did want to wait a few more months but I figured if minoxidil didn’t cause shedding after 3 months I was good to go. Might go back on it at this point. Would quickly narrow the source of shedding downIt's really difficult to tell with things like this when you haven't waited at least 6 full months after stopping 1 treatment before using another.
Usually it can take up to 6 months after stopping a hairloss treatment before you can see the resulting hairloss from stopping treatment.
So with your case, it could be that your hair shedding is caused by stopping Minoxidil, or because you started Saw Palmetto, or a combination of both treatments such that you incurred hairloss due to stopping Minoxidil and using SP.
I did want to wait a few more months but I figured if minoxidil didn’t cause shedding after 3 months I was good to go. Might go back on it at this point. Would quickly narrow the source of shedding down
Thanks! Yeah I’ll try to be patient. I did it before, so time to do it againI wish you good luck! But just be a bit patient because it may take a few months if not the next hair cycle to see results of reduced shedding from re-starting Minoxidil. Don't want to end up disappointed because you wanted an answer "quickly".