Revivogen's ingredients.

[ukmale24]

Seem kind of .... simple. Basically omega 3, 6, 9 with Saw palmetto, azelaic acid and a few other vitamins.

Would it not be cheaper to just take omega 3, 6 and 9 and the other vitamins and apply saw palmetto drops to your hair and get azelaic acid on it's own?

 

[Jacob]

You'll probably see posts about it being unique with it's free form fatty acids. Other products do contain them though.

 

[Bryan]

You'll probably see posts about it being unique with it's free form fatty acids. Other products do contain them though.

I don't know of any products (not even Revivogen!) which have stated explicitly in their advertising or product labeling that they use "free-form" fatty acids. The difference, though, is that the makers of Revivogen have clearly stated in the past in posts on hairloss sites that that's what they use.

 

[Nex]

A question for Bryan: What do you feel of Revivogen's anti androgenic properties? Do you feel it is stronger than topical s5?

 

[Bryan]

I can't really answer that question, for the simple reason that I haven't kept-up in recent years with the changes in Revivogen's formula (my understanding is that it has some very recent changes, although I have no idea what they are).

When Revivogen first came out several years ago, I believe they used saw palmetto as one of the ingredients, and I believe that's what they used to claim as one of their "antiandrogenic" ingredients. I've never been particularly impressed with saw palmetto. I'm dubious that it makes a good antiandrogen.

 

[ukmale24]

I'm still mystified ... so the only reason people spend shitloads of money on revivogen is because their fatty acids are 'free form'

 

[Jacob]

You'll probably see posts about it being unique with it's free form fatty acids. Other products do contain them though.

I don't know of any products (not even Revivogen!) which have stated explicitly in their advertising or product labeling that they use "free-form" fatty acids. The difference, though, is that the makers of Revivogen have clearly stated in the past in posts on hairloss sites that that's what they use.

You are all over the fricken map on this. So now you admit that they only "say" it..but the product probably doesn't contain them? So you've just been running around saying the same thing all these years? I can't say I'm surprised, given you do the same with Dr. P and Prox etc...but :shock:

 

[Jacob]

I'm still mystified ... so the only reason people spend shitloads of money on revivogen is because their fatty acids are 'free form'

No..because they and Bryan run around *saying* they are "free form".

 

[squeegee]

Bryan! Can I get a discounted price on Prox? since I know you? unk:

 

[Bryan]

You are all over the fricken map on this. So now you admit that they only "say" it..but the product probably doesn't contain them?

Huh?! What the hell are you talking about?? There's no doubt in my mind that the product contains what they say it contains!! :smack:

So you've just been running around saying the same thing all these years? I can't say I'm surprised, given you do the same with Dr. P and Prox etc...but :shock:

What in the SAM HELL are you talking about???

 

[Jacob]

There's no doubt? Have you had the product looked at to confirm that it contains what they claim? Do you believe they use a liposomal delivery system too?

But I do recall at HLH when I posted other products that contain the FFA's..that you questioned that that's what they indeed contained. Even though the ingredients are are listed just like Revivogen lists theirs.

On Proctor...both you and him talked about "mysterious" ingredients..not listed on the label and website.

 

[ripple-effect]

Seem kind of .... simple. Basically omega 3, 6, 9 with Saw palmetto, azelaic acid and a few other vitamins.

Would it not be cheaper to just take omega 3, 6 and 9 and the other vitamins and apply saw palmetto drops to your hair and get azelaic acid on it's own?

It would be cheaper but not as effective. Reasons being:

1.) Topical application is more effective than internal because you are targeting DHT at the source. Taking supplements doesn't mean it will reach the DHT that accumulated in the scalp.

2.) Putting Saw Palmetto Drops in your hair doesn't mean it will get into the follicle.
I believe Revivogen addresses this problem with it's liposomal delivery technology which insures the ingredients goes beyond the scalp and into the follicle.

I can't really answer that question, for the simple reason that I haven't kept-up in recent years with the changes in Revivogen's formula (my understanding is that it has some very recent changes, although I have no idea what they are).

When Revivogen first came out several years ago, I believe they used saw palmetto as one of the ingredients, and I believe that's what they used to claim as one of their "antiandrogenic" ingredients. I've never been particularly impressed with saw palmetto. I'm dubious that it makes a good antiandrogen.

Recent change they added is caffeine.

 

[Jacob]

What liposomal delivery system? :dunno:

 

[Bryan]

There's no doubt? Have you had the product looked at to confirm that it contains what they claim?

No. I trust them when they said that's what they use.

Do you believe they use a liposomal delivery system too?

If they say that's what they use, then I believe them.

But I do recall at HLH when I posted other products that contain the FFA's..that you questioned that that's what they indeed contained. Even though the ingredients are are listed just like Revivogen lists theirs.

You haven't listed any other products that contain "FFA's" (I assume that's supposed to mean "free fatty acids"). All you've done is list products that contain certain fatty acids, without specifying (like what the makers of Revivogen have done) whether or not they were FREE fatty acids. As I've already said in the past, I'm not going to simply assume that those other products also contain "free" fatty acids, without their stating that explicitly.

On Proctor...both you and him talked about "mysterious" ingredients..not listed on the label and website.

Yes....? Do you have a question hiding in there somewhere? :dunno:

 

[Jacob]

There's no doubt? Have you had the product looked at to confirm that it contains what they claim?

No. I trust them when they said that's what they use.

Do you believe they use a liposomal delivery system too?

If they say that's what they use, then I believe them.

But I do recall at HLH when I posted other products that contain the FFA's..that you questioned that that's what they indeed contained. Even though the ingredients are are listed just like Revivogen lists theirs.

You haven't listed any other products that contain "FFA's" (I assume that's supposed to mean "free fatty acids"). All you've done is list products that contain certain fatty acids, without specifying (like what the makers of Revivogen have done) whether or not they were FREE fatty acids. As I've already said in the past, I'm not going to simply assume that those other products also contain "free" fatty acids, without their stating that explicitly.

On Proctor...both you and him talked about "mysterious" ingredients..not listed on the label and website.

Yes....? Do you have a question hiding in there somewhere? :dunno:

Anyone else just going to believe what someone tells them in an email or years ago in one of these forums? Nothing on Revivogen's website or labeling says anything about them using "FREE fatty acids". There is nothing different about what they do..as I *have* listed other companies with similar ingreds.

The same for Proctor. He seems to be the king of making things up.

On the liposomal delivery system..they no longer do say they use it. At least not on their website wording. Nor is there any ingred(s) in the ingreds list that would make it liposomal.

 

[ukmale24]

Seem kind of .... simple. Basically omega 3, 6, 9 with Saw palmetto, azelaic acid and a few other vitamins.

Would it not be cheaper to just take omega 3, 6 and 9 and the other vitamins and apply saw palmetto drops to your hair and get azelaic acid on it's own?

It would be cheaper but not as effective. Reasons being:

1.) Topical application is more effective than internal because you are targeting DHT at the source. Taking supplements doesn't mean it will reach the DHT that accumulated in the scalp.

2.) Putting Saw Palmetto Drops in your hair doesn't mean it will get into the follicle.
I believe Revivogen addresses this problem with it's liposomal delivery technology which insures the ingredients goes beyond the scalp and into the follicle.

Recent change they added is caffeine.

I think i would take a punt on the saw palmetto ointment, if shampoos are made for getting to the follicle i'm sure an ointment would be likely to as well! same with azelaic acid. combine that with the alpecine caffeine shampoo, and hope high strength omega capsules will do the trick, i think it'd be hell of a lot cheaper than the £100 or so i'd have to spend on a 3 month supply of revivogen.

 

[Bryan]

There is nothing different about what they do..as I *have* listed other companies with similar ingreds.

I couldn't care less how many other products you list that have "similar ingredients" as Revivogen. If they don't say on the label or on the instructions or on their Web site or respond to a question you submit to them by email or telephone or some other method and verify that the fatty acids in their product are "free", then you should have nothing to do with them or their product. Not if the fatty acids are a significant part of their product. Wise-up, Jacob. Don't be so thick-headed.

 

[Jacob]

There is nothing different about what they do..as I *have* listed other companies with similar ingreds.

I couldn't care less how many other products you list that have "similar ingredients" as Revivogen. If they don't say on the label or on the instructions or on their Web site or respond to a question you submit to them by email or telephone or some other method and verify that the fatty acids in their product are "free", then you should have nothing to do with them or their product. Not if the fatty acids are a significant part of their product. Wise-up, Jacob. Don't be so thick-headed.

Love the snip.

Revivogen says nothing about theirs being "Free form" on their website or labeling etc. Any Joe from a company can make all the claims they want to..or pretend to have the knowledge and/or even the authority from such a company to say such things. If there really was something unique about what they do and what their product contains, they'd point it out on their website and labeling. Wise-up, Bryan. Don't be so gullible. You are constantly questioning *other* companies and even posters on the things they say and/or claim.

 

[Kev123]

Some of the ingredients in Revivogen like Zinc Sulfate, Vitamin B6, Panthenol, and Niacin are to make hair grow faster...not thicker, or give you more hair. These vitamins simply make your hair grow really fast. So if you are a hair loss sufferer and think these ingredients will thicken your hair then you know, they might, but they are not proven too. What I know of they only make hair grow faster.

But ingredients like saw palmetto, and beta-sitosterol, maybe, just maybe, those have some hair thickening anti-hair loss effects.

But like some one already mentioned, taking these orally, believe they won't do much. But putting them on your head, maybe you'd see some results. I take Biotin orally and my hair grows like hell, but not thick or more hairs, just grows faster. I was thinking of buying these vitamins to take them orally[zinc, b6, niacin, pantothenic acid, silica] just to see what they would do altogether since i'm already on finasteride and minoxidil.

 

[hairhoper]

So all it really boils down to is topical Saw Palmetto. f*** that.

Anyone who buys that sh*t is really clutching at straws (expensive ones). No strong evidence for any of it.