question i just cant find an answer to.......

[youngndumb]

now if someone had a strip procedure done, but this was before the TRICO method was widely adapted, is it possible to have a scar revision and incorporate this while still getting great results as in a virgin scalp. i cant find anyone that seems to know, or has had this done. also, its probably easier to do this if the scar is more on the thicker side id imagine. in my case, i have a long, but thin scar, and also a shorter but much thicker and obvious scar. anyone know anything? im wondering if this can be done successfully or if i should FUE into the scars for better results. apparently, the older the scar the better hairs will grow. if i got a revision, im wondering if i will make the scar worse and irritate it more, which would leave me helpless and possible make the scars worse. i just dont know. anybody have any input on this?

 

[not me!]

I had it done. My first procedure was done in June of 2004 with a conventional strip procedure. My second procedure in February of 2006 was a revision of the same scar to harvest the grafts and to reseal that scar using the tricho technique. That's why I suggested this technique to you in the other thread. Sorry if I didn't make that clear.

 

[youngndumb]

hey could u send /post some pics of the scar u currently have with Trico in it? how much does a revision w/ Trico cost, and just how much does it camo existing scars? Also do u know if there is a chance that if I go for a revision with this done if the scar will come out worswe than i started(stretched, pinker etc.) I basically just want to bic my head but do whatever i can to hide these f**king scars. Do u know of anyone that has done this and somewhat gotten away with it due to some kind of correctional procedure?

 

[not me!]

Like I said in another thread, I don't think you will be able to bic your head even after a trycho revision without seeing a thin (albeit very thin) line of a scar. However, I have yet to see a trycho closure come out worse or even the same as the scar that was repaired. It is a remarkably effective technique. It is also known as the "legde closure" technique because, basically, one side of the scar to be closed is overlapped over the opposite side, effectively bringing the hair-bearing skin closer together.

You would have to inquire to the physicians you choose about cost. Sorry, but I just don't know.

I am taking some photos this weekend. I'll be posting them to my "story" thread.

 

[youngndumb]

so if it is reclosed overlapping the skin. wouldnt this produce a raised, bumpy scar? and if i were to FUE into the scar, and say bic my head, would the scars from the FUE procedure be apparent as well?

 

[not me!]

so if it is reclosed overlapping the skin. wouldnt this produce a raised, bumpy scar? and if i were to FUE into the scar, and say bic my head, would the scars from the FUE procedure be apparent as well?

youngdumb,

Here are some links for information on the trichophytic closure from Dr. Ron Shapiro, one of the physicians currently offering the technique:

Post by Dr. Ron Shapiro

Photos and diagrams

Any time the skin is broken, scar tissue is formed. Of course, how pronounced the scar is depends on the type and size of incision and the healing characteristics of the patient. At most, FUE scars are usually faint, light-colored dots, if they are noticeable at all. I just don't want you to get the misconception that there is no scarring, when in fact, that just isn't true.

 

[Guest]

IMO, the statement from Dr. Shapiro regarding the differences in how patients heal are very important. And there are some questions that need to be answered in your situation.

You have two strip scars right? One is long and thin and the other is shorter but much wider. My first question is since your second scar came out pretty good, what caused the first scar to come out so wide? Was it incompetence of the first surgeon?

If your second scar came out good, then I highly doubt that it is a healing issue, IMO. You really need your case evaluated in person with a known reputable surgeon who has lots of experience in repair.

Can a widened scar be revised utilizing the tric closure method? Sure it can PROVIDING you have the accomodating scalp laxity. If your scalp is too tight, then yes you may end up choosing to have FUE grafts implanted in it.

FYI, I have talked with a fair amount of guys who had their subsequent strip procedures closed with the trico and ledge closure methods with good results.

My premonition is that you have good potential to get your scar situation resolved. Just know that hair transplant patients are not able to wear their hair buzzed down to a number one guide and even number two guide.

 

[youngndumb]

my first scar was the one that came out long and thin. i had to go back a year later because the grafts looked like sh*t. so the dr. said all i need was a "touch up" and not to worry. as i result i got a shorter, yer wider and pinker scar. it's been about 14 months and it is still pink. as of now i wear a high #1. yes, the scars are noticible, but ive always liked my hair short to accomodate my lack of hair. i wish i wouldve known about FUE than. i absolutely hate myself for ruining my life and am in a constant state of depression because of it. my greatest fear is i will lose more hair withing the next few years and have to shave it, despite the scarring. i will not continue with anymore transplants. i am just trying to find out what can possible be done to somehow reverse this mess and leave me looking semi normal. i only had grafts put into my receding temples a few inches back. not exactly sure how many i got, but you can definitely see the bumps and pitting in light. However a couple spots of bumpy scalp is much easier to deal with than the terrible strip scars i now have. I mean, the only logical thing i can think of to do would be just try to ignore it, get on with my life, learn from my mistake(forever) and hopefully, in a few years i can fix this mess via Juvista and a scar revision. I feel like there is no hope and am seeing a horrible life because of this. I have often contemplated suicide because i fucked my life up so bad, and all those dreams ive had are out the window, as i now am living in fear of others and under a hat. id give anything to go back, but i cant. sometimes i dont see any hope. god please help me

 

[Guest]

Who did your two hair transplants? Again if one scar came out thin and one wide, my premonition is that it was incompetence, and not you.

There are a fair number of established hair transplant surgeons who do good repair work and if you read in the other forums and ask, you'll start seeing some consistency in proven doctors.

 

[youngndumb]

dr. pistone did my two strips in may 2004 and may 2005

 

[Mahair]

Youngndumb- Just remember this is not your fault. Hair transplant doctors are not like Markus Welby. They could care less what happens to you. You went to a docor who lied to you to line his pockets. Happens all the time. Try to stay strong. Has you scalp been damaged much aside from the plugs? How long are your zip scars? There may be some hope as not me has stated. I am truly sorry to hear that another person has been damaged by the hair transplant industy.

 

[not me!]

dr. pistone did my two strips in may 2004 and may 2005

I was thinking about you and this thread earlier today. I know that the last thing you want to do is bring attention to yourself but perhaps if you posted a few pics we could give you a better opinion of what is possible for you. You can host them on a photo hosting account like photobucket.com and take them down whever you want. Of course, all we would need to see is the recipient and donor area so you would'nt need to see your face.

Like MaHair, I am truly saddened (but not surprised) that this is still going on. Noone should have to go through the ordeal of forking over thousands of dollars to a physician he trusts only to be scarred and lied to.

 

[youngndumb]

im not really sure how to post pics. i came home yesterday and looked in the mirror. i cant believe it; the whole top of my head is thinning all around and the bumps on my head are obvious. the f*****g strip scars almost made me vomit. i am starting to look like a goddamn freak and my life is ruined now. i cant imagine any employer hiring me in the state im in. i need to get this fixed but am broke. i cant take this. i cant even believe this is for real. i hate myself for thinking i can fix this. i am Christian so id hate to do anything for fear of my actions, but i am losing hope. i want to die. i know this cannot be fixed and i fucked my entire life up. how could i be so f*****g stupid....[/img]

 

[Apoc]

I'm really sorry to hear about something like this. It seems to me the only option you have is to just go ahead and apply for jobs. You need to know that your scars and stuff appear way more obvious to you than other people. I really don't think that you will be disqualified only because you have a scarr on the back of your head. Do not lose hope. And when you get a job start saving up for a good surgeon to repair your transplant.

 

[Mahair]

Also apply for SSI you might get it. If you want you can contact me at Mahair1@verizon.com . Hey gillenator what you want to tell this guy ? I guess its a research thing. A-hole. P.S. if you ever want to meet up I'll find a way to get to you.

 

[not me!]

Also apply for SSI you might get it. If you want you can contact me at Mahair1@verizon.com . Hey gillenator what you want to tell this guy ? I guess its a research thing. A-hole. P.S. if you ever want to meet up I'll find a way to get to you.

Wooooooah. Where did that come from? Can't you guys keep it civil?

 

[michael barry]

Youngndumb,

Man you can wear a cusom toupee' for a time while you get this thing straight. A visit with a good cosmetic surgeon in your area can give you an evaluation of what dermatologically can be done for you.


There ARE some ethical transplant surgeons out there who can assess you via the internet also. Dr. Robert Jones, Dr. Cole, Dr. Bernstein, NHI. Dr. Bauman in Florida has a good rep. There is a guy in Atlanta whose name escapes me at the moment who has a good reputation.

Methods of smoothing bumpy skin are dermabrasion and laser resurfacing. I dont think Id opt for the resurfacing because that may be able to present problems for you should cloning ever become a reality.

I promise you this though youngndumb, a good cosmetic surgeon will (If he/she is any kind of human being) take interest in you and give you the best advice they can.

I want to make sure anyone following this thread sees what IM talkin' about concerning future recession. This is George Carlin in the 70's at Dartmouth http://www.radford.edu/~wkovarik/class/ ... carlin.jpg

HES got a HAIRLINE.
He was on LENO last night (69 years old now). http://letterman.iscool.com/june97/6-16a.jpg Thats about what he looks like now. His sides have receeded back to his ears. His back baldspot has gotten pretty big. We have been waiting on a "better propecia" since 1997 and weve gotten nothing. The only thing that might really "halt" further balding is a topical androgen receptor blocker that does not get systemically absorbed (and turn you into a woman more or less) like RU58841 was purported to be (but we never found out because Rousseau pharmaceuticals never put it in production). Carlin was in his mid-30's or so in that first pic where he had hair. Lots of men like youngndumb are in their damn twenties with much more recession than that, thinking that they will "have enough" always to get more. Its a bet. Its a bet on better genetic therapies or cloning to come and bail you out. Now, as buzz cuts are more popular than ever, is the time to wait if youre balding young, and follow the new technologies, treating it if thats your fancy, but not drawing a line in the sand. If you wind up as bald as this famous judge, youre screwed........[url]http://www.tsc.state.tn. ... chhead.jpg[/url]

 

[Solo]

Michael, Why are you in such a crusade against hair transplant??


Is it for pure philantropy or you had a bad experience or something??

 

[Solo]

No pun intended, ah!!


It´s plain curiosity, bro.

 

[Guest]

You mean Dr. Pistone in New Jersey? The one who performed many, many open donor (plugs) procedures? I've also heard of his infamous billboard sign on the Jersey bridge. Some lingo about "No more Plugs" is what I heard is on that advertising. I've seen a fair amount of his past work and IMO, it was not good. In fact I cannot even remember "one" example that I thought was good work.

I don't want to discourage you my friend but I truly believe you have so many other good options as close as NYC. Dr. Bob True has been doing hair transplants in NYC longer than anyone else I know including Bernstein.

If I were you, I would do extensive research on other docs who have lots of repair experience.