Other options besides finasteride?

[Hoppi]

Hoppi..read between the ()'s. Again..you'd be surprised..

lol really? He got some from you? O.O

Don't you think it's a wicked regimen plan though? As far as I can tell it's STOPPING cellular apoptosis through DHT! That's flat out genius! Then I can still balance my insulin, testosterone, diet, lower DHT/5ar, whatever I want, and it will all be as well as the fact that the DHT will get all the way up there and then be unable to do a whole lot! lol

(as is my understanding ^_^ )

At the very least it will probably bung 10 years or so on my life lol

 

[timbo]

I just added Proxiphen to my regimen yesterday. I am hoping it will revive some VERY miniaturized hairs at the corners of my hairline that were unresponsive to finasteride or minoxidil (Xandrox).

I'm not gonna lie, 100 bucks a month will be a pain in the ***. But if it works, it will be more than worth it.

 

[Jacob]

Hoppi..read between the ()'s. Again..you'd be surprised..

lol really? He got some from you? O.O

Don't you think it's a wicked regimen plan though? As far as I can tell it's STOPPING cellular apoptosis through DHT! That's flat out genius! Then I can still balance my insulin, testosterone, diet, lower DHT/5ar, whatever I want, and it will all be as well as the fact that the DHT will get all the way up there and then be unable to do a whole lot! lol

(as is my understanding ^_^ )

At the very least it will probably bung 10 years or so on my life lol

Yes..really.

As "far as you can tell" it's STOPPING it? Maybe he should move on to curing AIDs next.

Take a good greens/fruits/superfoods mix/shake..pick 6 other supplements(actually..there are products that combine a # of them plus more. A little odd just taking them separatly, don't you think?) that look good...bung 10 more years or so as well. Which you could probably do with diet and exercise alone if you're not doing that

BTW...what happened to Propecia-Junkie's post? :dunno:

 

[OverMachoGrande]

I deleted it and Pm'd him instead. But again Jacob, you ARE correct about posting other hair losss forums here.

 

[Obsidian]

I would love to try Proxiphen but sadly I don't have the time to really to do a part time job to cover the cost of it for a year.

 

[abcdefg]

Yeah I mean if you looked at the cost/effectiveness ratio and figured the amount of time you use most male pattern baldness treatments for none of the treatments are all that practical to use. I cabt believe how many rich balding men are willing to spend the amounts of money they do on these ridiculously expensive lifelong treatments. I personally think I would rather keep my thousands of dollars and just lose hair.

 

[Hoppi]

Hoppi..read between the ()'s. Again..you'd be surprised..

lol really? He got some from you? O.O

Don't you think it's a wicked regimen plan though? As far as I can tell it's STOPPING cellular apoptosis through DHT! That's flat out genius! Then I can still balance my insulin, testosterone, diet, lower DHT/5ar, whatever I want, and it will all be as well as the fact that the DHT will get all the way up there and then be unable to do a whole lot! lol

(as is my understanding ^_^ )

At the very least it will probably bung 10 years or so on my life lol

Yes..really.

As "far as you can tell" it's STOPPING it? Maybe he should move on to curing AIDs next.

Take a good greens/fruits/superfoods mix/shake..pick 6 other supplements(actually..there are products that combine a # of them plus more. A little odd just taking them separatly, don't you think?) that look good...bung 10 more years or so as well. Which you could probably do with diet and exercise alone if you're not doing that

Possibly... I mean I would be interested to see these other options!

I think it's always nice to have lots of viable, intelligent approaches though and lots of thinking outside the box!

I mean think of all those people who can't really take Finasteride or whatever - they have other real options out there.

My regimen is gradually packing more punch as I am mixing lots of different approaches into one!

If I don't see much improvement I will swap beta-sitosterol for mild finasteride, but other than that I'm just being experimental and open-minded, and always learning new things - my new signature explains why! lol

 

[Jacob]

You're not going to start promoting a certain combination product in the near future..are you? :shakehead:

Speaking of combo products..or a bunch of other things that who-knows-could be just as good: http://www.tbrlabs.com/pdf/LimuNEI.pdf

http://limuzrevolution.com/Key_to_Longevity.html

 

[Hoppi]

You're not going to start promoting a certain combination product in the near future..are you? :shakehead:

Why do you ask?

And even if I did, nothing wrong with that! It's all about getting the very best treatment as easily as possible, with the best results and the fewest sides! And if it's good for the rest of you, then so much the better! ^_^

 

[Jacob]

Why do I ask? Anyone else wondering? :mrgreen: And I guess the answer is "yes"....

See my previous post btw..edited/updated it.

 

[Hoppi]

ah ok fair do's, I don't really know many of the ingredients in there though.

The only thing in my regimen I am contemplating changing is the lignans... maaaybe the Brewer's Yeast/CoA, as I'm liking the sound of Sulforaphane, and also Iodine. I'll see how the news and posts on them pans out!

I'm like Brian Simonis in that I like to put together what I perceive as a really good regimen in a kind of internal, holistic way, and then keep tweaking it and tweaking it to make it better!

I just really care about my hair that's all

 

[Jacob]

As I was saying... :whistle:

 

[Hoppi]

What do you mean?

Isn't this a really good, constructive and holistically beneficial approach? ^_^

 

[Jacob]

It sure is..and there's no $ making involved or in the works either :whistle:

I'm not going to list tons of combos..it'd probably be a waste of time because of what I was saying earlier in this thread. I'll probably get- I don't know many of the ingreds anyway..

But..take a combo like this http://www.swansonvitamins.com/SWL001/ItemDetail and explain to me why it wouldn't be a "constructive and holistically beneficial approach?"

Also..are you going to get on or copy "Hair Mass"..which actually has something to back it up with? http://www.hairlosstalk.com/interact/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=42125

 

[Hoppi]

My regimen is a combination of trusting Brian Simonis, and many, many, many hours of my own research and forum discussions with knowledgeable people! It also of course contains 2 of the big 3 anyway, so, as far as I can tell, it's killer


(and hell when your regimen even includes intended epigenetics, you know it's gotta be good! lol )

 

[Jacob]

Your response is very telling, Hoppi. Anything that doesn't have to do with what the agenda is all about..you'll ignore. (I see a big, See, I told you so...coming up in the near future)

And "trusting"? Tell that to all those with all the side effects over the years. There's a reason why it keeps changing.

Let me guess...no decent topicals either..until they're available....

 

[Hoppi]

I don't fully understand what it is your saying. I also don't understand why you're SO against me doing this, it's my decision what I do for my hair and my health! lol

I have spent a loooong time on my regimen and it's coming at hair loss from at least 5 different directions lol

I dunno man, each to their own eh?

And I do have at least one potent topical which is Nizoral, but I am hoping that topicals won't have to be a focus of mine, just for my own health needs.

But anyway yeah, it's each to their own and this is my... own lol

 

[Jacob]

:shakehead:

 

[Hoppi]

why can't you just be tolerant and accepting of other people's views? I let you get on with your regimen, why do you have to pass judgement on mine?

 

[Jacob]

I know you know better..so I'm not even going to bother. :shakehead: