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Official Hellouser To Kyoto Hair Congress 2017 Fund

Discussion in 'New Research, Studies, and Technologies' started by hellouser, Apr 24, 2017.

  1. d3nt3dsh0v3l

    d3nt3dsh0v3l Experienced Member My Regimen

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    Tsuji's been on track for Japan 2020 release. I of course can't speak to the future in absolute terms, but his data seems very promising and he has shown competency in solving problems also. In other words, he's serious. And Japan is serious too, about marketing after phase II, unlike the US. The chances are very high. Though the actual time to widespread marketing is not 2020, that's just the initial release. That's why many members of this forum, including myself, consider perhaps a few years after 2020 the effective date. Unless you can be one of the lucky early guys or something.
     
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    Jonnyyy Senior Member My Regimen

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    He said he's gonna work hard to get all the information for us into a readable format, shouldn't take him more than a week.
     
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    It could very well approach the $100K mark when you consider traveling to Japan, staying there for 3 or so weeks (or traveling back and forth, since it will take ~ 3 weeks to culture the cells), etc. Plus, it will only be offered in a small scale at first, and treatments are always more expensive in the beginning. Especially if pricing is structured like transplants, since they'll be using surgeons to implant the follicles IIRC.

    Who knows if they'll start the US or Euro approval process quickly, if ever, but if so it might be easier to just wait and get it there.
     
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    I recall them saying that they are going to personally pick experienced surgeons who will be providing the treatment when it first comes to market. So on top of travel cost, paying for the "cloning" process itself, you're gonna have to pay an experienced Japense hair transplant to transplant thousands of grafts. It's definitely gonna be expensive and be out of reach for most people in terms of cost.
     
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    Ollie Experienced Member My Regimen

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    Would they be able to get around marketing for Europe and the US by taking a biopsy in your home country, then sending them to Japan for the cloning process to happen (presumably done by Riken Obviously..) and then sending them back to your home country afterwards to be transplanted by a hair transplant surgeon ?
     
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    hellouser Senior Member My Regimen

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    Back in Canada and already back at work in my day job... yeah, time off in this country is horrible;
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_minimum_annual_leave_by_country

    Anyway, I'm pretty exhausted, sleeping like 9+ hours a day and I still can't gather myself, barely functional at work. I'll get around to sharing all the stuff ASAP. I'll start off with a generic post and then go through Day 1, 2 then 3... etc.
     
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    Pavi Senior Member My Regimen

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    Appreciate it man. I agree. Best way to go about this is to give us the big takeaways now and details later
     
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    Good plan.

    You're a Legend!
     
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    I'm guessing there was no eureka or blockbuster moment at the congress because hellouser would have shared something like THAT by now. :(
     
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    soo Established Member My Regimen

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    You were one of those depressed kids that had a mental breakdown right before getting his test grade, right? Relax, dude:)
     
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    hanginginthewire Experienced Member

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    No. I didn't give a shit about my grades. I'm relaxed. Just clear that no slam dunk is coming.
     
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    It would've been naive to expect anything like that from this conference.
     
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    Agreed. But it would have been nice.
     
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    Hellouser please just tell us if shiseido/replicel reported any results of their phase II trial and if they are still on track for a commercial release in Japan sometime next year. I would imagine it was touched on given the conference was in Japan and there were representatives from shiseido in attendance.
     
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    I just kinda wanna know about ol' Tsuj and friends if he doesn't make it ill honestly have to admit defeat. I'm not applicable for anything else as nothing else is going to be that satisfying at growing new hair but even if they dont make it I am hopeful for the guys who just need maintainance sounds like you guys will be alright in my opinion.
     
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    Yeah if hell had something really exciting to share, he would have done it by now.
    Probably its more or less the same thing which anyways was expected.
     
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    Hellouser, thank you so much for all you hard work! I’m looking forward to your posts

    If hair scientists had your dedication we would all be Norwood 1 by now
     
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    Why don't we have a detailed report by now? What's taking so long? We demand answers!
    Ho! Just kidding Hellouser. Hope you had a good trip and got to sample some world class sushi. Safe travels.
     
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    At least you don't live in the US. As that Wikipedia page shows, we have no minimum leave/vacation time.

    Some of us are working 60 hours a week for OT pay to get ourselves financially positioned to travel to Japan for treatment. Any info you have regarding RCH-01 would be much obliged. Thank you again for your hard work.
     
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    it would be nice to even hear a small recap of the most interesting treatment coming out.
     

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