Non-antiadrogenic alternative treatments?

[waynakyo]

Is it possible to make a list of the alternative treatments that are non-antiandrogenic?

I know of few, but here is what I know:

- Ceterezine
- Biotin
- Vit D supplementation
- Scalp massage

Zix might be working as a weak antiandrogen given the zinc in it, but unsure.

 

[Regan]

Laser cap, I suppose.

What counts as an alternative treatment, exactly? Adenosine for example works without being antiandrogenic.

 

[waynakyo]

Laser cap, I suppose.

What counts as an alternative treatment, exactly? Adenosine for example works without being antiandrogenic.

Let's say everything but finasteride, Duta, and minoxidil, as alternatives here. Two of them are naturally ruled out due to their mechanism of action.

Can you tell me more about Adenosine? I have not heard people discussing it here

 

[Regan]

Let's say everything but finasteride, Duta, and minoxidil, as alternatives here. Two of them are naturally ruled out due to their mechanism of action.

Can you tell me more about Adenosine? I have not heard people discussing it here

Adenosine makes hair thicker and probably reduces hair loss. It does that by somehow altering growth factors, and is in no way anti-androgenic. I basically think of it as kinda a bit like minoxidil, though probably less powerful. There's good literature supporting its effectiveness. Perhaps adenosine and minoxidil could be stacked? There's a Japanese hair growth product called Adenogen which is adenosine-based.

 

[jamesbooker1975]

Is it possible to make a list of the alternative treatments that are non-antiandrogenic?

I know of few, but here is what I know:

- Ceterezine
- Biotin
- Vit D supplementation
- Scalp massage

Zix might be working as a weak antiandrogen given the zinc in it, but unsure.

Minoxidil plus tretinoin

 

[Lurker otto]

Adenosine makes hair thicker and probably reduces hair loss. It does that by somehow altering growth factors, and is in no way anti-androgenic. I basically think of it as kinda a bit like minoxidil, though probably less powerful. There's good literature supporting its effectiveness. Perhaps adenosine and minoxidil could be stacked? There's a Japanese hair growth product called Adenogen which is adenosine-based.

Do you use it? Because if it can give a little boost, im interested in mixing it with my minoxidil.

 

[Regan]

Do you use it? Because if it can give a little boost, im interested in mixing it with my minoxidil.

I don't, but there's definitely good evidence that it works.

Can it be stacked with minoxidil? That depends on the mechanism of the drugs. For example, if the mechanism is to some extent similar, stacking might not work, etc.

The problem is, we definitely don't know how minoxidil works other than that opening potassium channels somehow facilitates hair growth. (I absolutely don't believe the Blüdflöw theory of why minoxidil works.)
With adenosine, I'm not sure how much of the mechanism is understood.

It's probably worth trying if you don't mind the cost and the hassle.

 

[waynakyo]

OK, what else other than adenosine/cap/minoxidil/biotin/VitD... ?

 

[Nebula74]

OK, what else other than adenosine/cap/minoxidil/biotin/VitD... ?

Microneedling and that's it really nothing else is gonna be that useful

 

[Regan]

Stemoxydine probably works as a modest hair growth stimulant and can be stacked with other stuff.

 

[waynakyo]

Are the following antiandrogens:

Tea tree: Y/N?

Peppermint: Y/N

 

[waynakyo]

I did not find evidence that Castor oil is an anti androgen, and overall it has good reviews here.

Anyone knows of its anti DHT properties?

 

[waynakyo]

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/dth.15323?casa_token=ycpugH_MqdUAAAAA%3AISHXUooSlMPkCZv9E8J34ivhcZr6aDEaXaKVAC6Z-z2k5KIDgazEqpLC6hx8be1AWCx6WKh-rzbGTCUfFA

 

[waynakyo]

Natural products for AA

 

[RStGeorge]

OK, what else other than adenosine/cap/minoxidil/biotin/VitD... ?

Biotin has never been shown to help with hair loss, unless you suffer from a serious biotin depletion condition. It is a complete waste of money. Check for studies in pubmed. No evidence of any efficacy at all

 

[RStGeorge]

Androgenetic Alopecia and supplements. What does the science say

 

[Red cat]

I suppose Vit D and Biotin, at least this’s what I use. To get to know more about any medicine I use Canada Drugs site. There is a lot of information about a lot of meds.

 

[RStGeorge]

Biotin is useless. No clinical study has found any effectiveness. Vit D, despite low serum levels correlating with Androgenetic Alopecia, so far have showed zero efficacy when supplementing for Androgenetic Alopecia

 

[Mr. Slap Head]

Nofap and meditation

 

[abcdefg]

Is it possible to make a list of the alternative treatments that are non-antiandrogenic?

I know of few, but here is what I know:

- Ceterezine
- Biotin
- Vit D supplementation
- Scalp massage

Zix might be working as a weak antiandrogen given the zinc in it, but unsure.

Id argue acceptance is a very good one. Because without a legit treatment - minoxidil/finasteride your going to end up there anyway. lol