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New Patent: The Perfect Wnt Agonist For Us?

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  1. InBeforeTheCure

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    Happy new year, baldites! I just discovered this recent patent out of Stanford University for creating artificial peptides that act as powerful Wnt agonists.

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    The peptides consist of at least three components. The first binds to the Wnt receptor Frizzled and the second binds to the Wnt co-receptor Lrp5/6 - these two parts mimic the action of Wnt proteins. The third component is an R-spondin agonist to amplify the Wnt signal - this is important as I'll explain later.

    The patent discusses using this to treat, among many other conditions, androgenetic alopecia.

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    So why is Wnt signaling important for those of us with A.G.A?

    Well, for one thing, there's strong genetic evidence for a causal link between Wnt signaling and A.G.A. This is from the most recent GWAS (genome-wide association study) on A.G.A:

    The basic scheme for a GWAS (genome-wide association study) is the following:

    1. Take a group of people with some condition (in this case balding men), another group without that condition (in this case fullheads).
    2. Look for statistically significant genetic differences between them.
    3. Genetic differences between the groups will usually be found near genes that contribute to that condition.

    In the case of A.G.A, many genetic differences between bald men and fullheads are found near Wnt-related genes. Here's a representation of some (not all) Wnt-related genes associated with A.G.A and their roles in the pathway, using results from four different GWAS (Hagenaars et al., 2017) (Heilmann-Heimbach et al., 2017) (Pickrell et al., 2016) (Pirastu et al., 2017):

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    A.G.A-associated genes that are positive regulators of Wnt signaling are green, while A.G.A-associated genes that are negative regulators of Wnt signaling are red. Other Wnt-related genes are black. A quick explanation of how this pathway works:

    1. Beta-catenin has two major roles in the cell - the first is in regulating cell-cell adhesion, and the second is as a transcription factor (a transcription factor is a protein that regulates transcription of genes). We're concerned with the second of these.
    2. When Wnt signaling is off, a protein complex consisting of TCF or LEF and so-called "Groucho" proteins bind to DNA and repress transcription of many genes. One Groucho family member, TLE3, is associated with A.G.A. A destruction complex consisting of Axin2, APC, CK1, and GSK3-beta tags beta-catenin (an A.G.A-associated gene) for degradation.
    3. To turn Wnt signaling on: A Wnt protein (like WNT10A - associated with A.G.A) secreted from a nearby cell binds to the Wnt receptor called "Frizzled" (two separate Frizzled receptors -- FZD7 and FZD10 -- are associated with A.G.A). Wnt also binds to the Wnt co-receptor LRP5 or LRP6 (LRP6 is associated with A.G.A). Now we have a protein complex consisting of Wnt, Frizzled, and Lrp5/6 - an activated Wnt signaling complex.
    4. The activated Wnt signaling complex directs the protein Disheveled (DVL) to disable the beta-catenin destruction complex. Now beta-catenin is free to accumulate and move into the nucleus.
    5. A large number of beta-catenin proteins are now in the nucleus, where they bind to TCF/LEF. When beta-catenin binds to TCF/LEF instead of Groucho, the TCF/LEF-beta-catenin complex now activates Wnt target genes rather than repressing them. Activation of Wnt target genes is essential for hair growth. However, many Wnt target genes are also negative feedback regulators of the pathway (like Axin2, a member of the beta-catenin destruction complex). We'll focus particularly on two other negative regulators of the Wnt pathway - RNF43 and the A.G.A-associated gene ZNRF3. RNF43/ZNRF3 tag Frizzled receptors (including the newly-activated complexes) for removal from the cell membrane and subsequent degradation. Soon after its initial activation, the Wnt signal is gone. Under such conditions, Wnt signaling is weak and short-lived. Keep Rnf43/Znrf3 in mind for later.

    Hopefully this convinces you of the importance of Wnt signaling in A.G.A. Now, what happens when Wnt signaling is repressed in hair folllicles? Something closely approximating A.G.A, as shown by experiments where A.G.A-associated gene WNT10A is knocked out in mice (Xu et al., 2017).

    The results of the study by Xu et al. are consistent with previous observations that:
    - Wnt signaling controls dermal papilla size and hair follicle size, hence the miniaturization. (Lei et al., 2014, among others)
    - Blocking Wnt signaling in hair follicle stem cells causes them to differentiate into sebocytes (the cells that make up the sebaceous gland) rather than hair follicle cells (Lien et al., 2014, among others)
    - Wnt signaling is required for conversion of hair follicle stem cells into Lgr5+ progenitor cells capable of making an entire hair follicle (Hoeck et al., 2017) (Jaks et al., 2008)

    Remember: The peptides described in this latest patent have two components to mimic the action of Wnt proteins - one to bind Frizzled and one to bind Lrp5/6. This forms an activated Wnt signaling complex just as Wnt proteins would.

    Now - remember Rnf43/Znrf3? Many Wnt-dependent organs, including hair follicles, have a way of blocking the action of these two negative Wnt regulators. Here it is:

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    1. Wnt/beta-catenin activates expression of RNF43 and A.G.A-associated ZNRF3. But something different happens in this case.
    2. R-spondins (two of which are associated with A.G.A - RSPO2 and RSPO3) -- secreted from dermal papilla cells -- bind to their receptor LGR4/5/6 (LGR4 is associated with A.G.A).
    3. The RSPO/LGR4 complex binds ZNRF3 and prevents it from interacting with Frizzled receptors.
    4. Now, activated Wnt complexes accumulate at the cell membrane. Wnt signaling is now very strong and long-lasting.

    The association of A.G.A with RSPO2 is especially strong, with multiple large-effect variants near the RSPO2 (R-spondin2) gene. This pattern is also found around the Androgen Receptor (AR) gene and to a lesser extent the SRD5A2 (5-alpha reductase type II) gene. In other words, we should expect that R-spondin2 plays a particularly important role in A.G.A.

    Anyway, here's an animation and explanation by Hans Clevers (an expert on the Wnt pathway) of this (from 10:00-12:45 only, not the whole thing):



    The third component of this peptide is an R-spondin agonist. To give you a taste for just how powerful this is, look at these figures from the patent.

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    What this shows is activity of an artificial gene called TOPFlash, which gives a readout of Wnt signaling activity. In this first one, the highest concentration of Wnt3a alone induces a 10-fold increase in TOPFlash activity compared to control. Wnt3a plus R-spondin2 induces a 5,000-fold increase in TOPFlash activity (i.e. it enhances Wnt signaling by 500 times compared to Wnt alone).

    This next one shows the activity of a peptide containing only Frizzled and Lrp5/6 binding domains (a Wnt-only agonist) compared to peptides additionally containing an R-spondin agonist domain.

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    Also in this case, the combined Wnt + R-spondin agonist peptides tower over the Wnt-only agonist peptide.

    This massive amplification is not just trivia but, as Hans Clevers mentioned in the video, functionally important. For example, the combination of Wnt + R-spondin can maintain and expand intestinal stem cells, while Wnt alone cannot (Yan et al., 2017). Intestinal stem cells quickly die when the R-spondin receptor LGR4 is knocked out. Wnt completely fails to prevent this. The GSK3-beta inhibitor lithium chloride does slightly better, but still rescues just 6% of the cells (Mustata et al., 2011).

    Is robust hair growth also dependent on R-spondins? Some early evidence says Yes. The following, from Smith et al., 2016, shows cultured human hair follicles treated with nothing, Wnt3a alone, and Wnt3a + R-spondin2 respectively.

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    The graph shows that Wnt3a + Rspo2 treated follicles grew much faster than either controls or follicles treated with Wnt3a alone. Also, at least in the example shown, the hair shaft looks like it may have more than doubled in thickness.

    In another experiment, cultured hair follicle stem cells were treated with Wnt3a alone, Wnt3a + R-spondin1, R-spondin1 alone, or nothing. While R-spondin1 enhanced expression of several Wnt target genes as expected, expression of Lgr5 was completely dependent on R-spondin.

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    Lgr5 (itself an R-spondin receptor of course) is a marker for a type of hair follicle progenitor cell that is missing in bald scalp (Garza et al., 2011). Conversion of hair follicle stem cells to these Lgr5+ progenitors requires Wnt signaling, and these cells can form entirely new hair follicles, as I mentioned earlier.

    Last but not least: At the recent Hair Congress (thanks hellouser), Jeff Biernaskie showed that dermal stem cells express LGR4, and that R-spondin from nearby dermal papilla cells induces those cells to proliferate. Dermal stem cells can make new dermal papilla cells. Therefore, we could speculate that R-spondin might play some role in expanding the dermal stem cell population, and perhaps in activating dermal stem cells to make new dermal papilla cells. It is after all true that Wnt signaling controls dermal papilla size. Since the size of the dermal papilla controls the size of the hair shaft (Chi et al., 2013), and since in A.G.A the dermal papilla has become very small and the hair shaft very thin, enlarging the dermal papilla is key to treating A.G.A.

    So IMO, the patented Wnt/R-spondin agonist has solid potential for treating A.G.A. It can potentially:
    - extend the anagen phase of the hair cycle (the paper by Smith et al. demonstrates this)
    - enlarge the dermal papilla and consequently the hair shaft
    - convert hair follicle stem cells to Lgr5+ hair follicle progenitors, and stop them from making sebocytes instead

    All of these are critical for treating A.G.A. The patented agonist would also be useful for wound-induced hair follicle neogenesis, since Wnt is the earliest signal in hair follicle induction. Fingers crossed that they actually move forward with this.
     
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    Is this accessible, however? Can we purchase it?
     
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    Jonnyyy Experienced Member My Regimen

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    I don't know what you said, but where can I get it?
     
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    my guy

    if synthesis known... you get anything you want from china. Guarantee.

    However problem of knowing API facility of good reputation to do this. China full of scam artists, need mandarin and guangdong speaking facilitator to deal with scumbag. good reputation API facility do not bother with small baloney orders! they make $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ every year cuck 300 USD order waste of time for them! so you see...
     
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    I am from Hong Kong. If you need help please call me. Mandarin, Cantonese, Chinese is easy for me.
     
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    Really impressive... Great work @InBeforeTheCure .Each day I am more and more convinced that we will enjoy a very effective treatment for androgenetic alopecia in a relatively short time.
     
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    Great/informative post man. I know you're always modest and this isn't even your profession but you're obviously a very smart individual and I always appreciate you breaking this stuff down for us. Happy New Years to you and yours.
     
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    awesome stuff brother. let's organize a group buy and get this thing over with.
     
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    Firstly, someone give this man a medal. Jesus Christ this is a high quality post. The guys not just seeking out and reporting on cutting edge research, he's even going to great lengths to break down and communicate the detail of the biology so we can get a real understanding of what's being done and why it's important. Salute man, salute.

    Secondly, if I'm following the post right, this patent is exciting me on a borderline sexual level. We're getting so close to a molecular mechanistic solution you can just smell it. The Wnt pathway absolutely stinks at this point, and if R-spondin is such a potent amplifier of Wnt signaling, the potential for a Wnt agonist like this is just eye watering. God I'd love to see even just the safety trial data just to get an inkling of what this could be capable of.
     
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    Thanks for your giant amount of work. This looks truly great on paper, I had only one question. What are the potential side effects of this?
     
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    Amazing, have a thread bump.
     
  13. Georgie

    Georgie Experienced Member My Regimen

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    we have so much information which could help us better treat or cure Androgenetic Alopecia. This proves it. It’s almost there. Put it in a pill or a topical and fucken gimme already!!
     
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    this is crazy. I really joined this forum at the right time.
     
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    I concur.
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    Maybe R-spondin 2 is one of the "secret" ingredients Follica is using to encourage prolonged Wnt activity after wounding. Although, they would most likely have a difficult time passing this under FDA scrutiny, as it could be considered a drug.
     
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    Georgie Experienced Member My Regimen

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    Wonder how many suicides and antidepressant prescriptions will diminish when they GIVE US THE CURE. Now. Right now. Will sell soul and one kidney:
     
  18. InBeforeTheCure

    InBeforeTheCure Established Member My Regimen

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    By the way, this paper is associated with the patented molecules. I've uploaded the full text here.
    EDIT: Toccata beat me to it. ;)

    Even if you find someone to make it for you, it would probably be very expensive since it's such a large molecule. There may be enough information in the paper + patent to make it, but figuring out how to deliver such a large molecule (over 100,000 Dalton) topically (unless you inject it), dose, etc. would all require some expertise.

    They're using a combination of a Frizzled antagonist called vantictumab and the c-terminal domain of DKK1 (an Lrp5/6 antagonist). These are both antagonists individually, but when part of the same protein, they bind Frizzled and Lrp5/6 respectively, bringing Frizzled and Lrp together which is what activates the Wnt pathway. The segment of Rspo2 is the Furin repeat domain that binds Lgr4/5 and Rnf43/Znrf3.

    These are the referenced amino acid sequences:

    scFv component (vantictumab):

    CRD (cysteine rich domain) of human FZD1 (residues 113-182):
    HGYCQPISIPLCTDIAYNQTIMPNLLGHTNQEDAGLEVHQFYPLVKVQCSAELKFFLCSMYAPVCTVLEQ

    CRD of human FZD4 (residues 42-161):
    ERRCDPIRISMCQNLGYNVTKMPNLVGHELQTDAELQLTTFTPLIQYGCSSQLQFFLCSVYVPMCTEKINIPIGPCGGMCLSVKRRCEPVLKEFGFAWPESLNCSKFPPQNDHNHMCMEG

    CRD of human FZD5 (residues 30-150):
    APVCQEITVPMCRGIGYNLTHMPNQFNHDTQDEAGLEVHQFWPLVEIQCSPDLRFFLCSMYTPICLPDYHKPLPPCRSVCERAKAGCSPLMRQYGFAWPERMSCDRLPVLGRDAEVLCMDY

    CRD of human FZD7 (residues 36-163):
    HGEKGISVPDHGFCQPISIPLCTDIAYNQTILPNLLGHTNQEDAGLEVHQFYPLVKVQCSPELRFFLCSMYAPVCTVLDQAIPPCRSLCERARQGCEALMNKFGFQWPERLRCENFPVHGAGEICVGQ

    CRD of human FZD8 (residues 32-151):
    ELACQEITVPLCKGIGYNYTYMPNQFNHDTQDEAGLEVHQFWPLVEIQCSPDLKFFLCSMYTPICLEDYKKPLPPCRSVCERAKAGCAPLMRQYGFAWPDRMRCDRLPEQGNPDTLCMDY

    CRD of human FZD10 (residues 30-150):
    GDGKCQPIEIPMCKDIGYNMTRMPNLMGHENQREAAIQLHEFAPLVEYGCHGHLRFFLCSLYAPMCTEQVSTPIPACRVMCEQARLKCSPIMEQFNFKWPDSLDCRKLPNKNDPNYLCMEA
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    DKK1c (residues 177-266 of human DKK1):
    KMYHTKGQEGSVCLRSSDCASGLCCARHFWSKICKPVLKEGQVCTKHRRKGSHGLEIFQRCYCGEGLSCRIQKDHHQASNSSRLHTCQRH
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    CRD and Furin repeat domains of human Rspo2 (residues 36-143):
    SNPICKGCLSCSKDNGCSRCQQKLFFFLRREGMRQYGECLHSCPSGYYGHRAPDMNRCARCRIENCDSCFSKDFCTKCKVGFYLHRGRCFDECPDGFAPLEETMECVE
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    Plus a few extra components as the paper/patent states. No doubt that's very expensive.

    At high concentrations systemically - maybe bone growth, increased risk of certain types of cancer, hypertrichosis (that's the point of using it in the first place). It would have to be dosed so that only the target site (the scalp) has a high concentration.
     
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    So unless this is in Follicas secret juice, we'll probably completely forget about this and it'll just be another one of the random breakthroughs in Androgenetic Alopecia
     
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    Georgie Experienced Member My Regimen

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    To be honest I feel like stem cells would solve a lot of issues, and not even just hairloss. We’re talking spinal injuries, MS, arthritis, chronic pain disorders, endocrine disorders. I’m pretty over the whole faffing around the moral dilemmas and heistance to invest serious funding into what would potentially improve quality of life for a fucking LOT of people. Ugh. I reckon stem cell treatment could have been a viable and readily available treatment ages ago if not for the silly fucking road blocks.
     
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