Check PrettyFly83's photos from the BTT link I posted. Clear results for him, and impressive ones as well using the same wounding and methodology as in the study.
I just read the thread. Thanks. I usually read that forum too when I got time, lately I haven't. I haven't read the study yet but I will.
A little comment to PrettyFly83's results. He did not follow the recipe. He did it for sunspots first and the sideeffect was more hair while using minoxidil. So not the same methodology as in the study.
I'm agreeing with the theory that wounds heals and make the "organ" go back to the original baseline. I don't know where but I posted about the wounds on my wrists caused by scratching because of allergy. The result were that I healed perfect and I got hair growth on them. (mind you I'm quite hairy :hairy: Just not on my head...:sobbing
I also said something about a study from Japan I read many years ago where they on purpose made wounds on the head and let it heal. That resulted in hair regrowth in patients. They gave up the idea of having it as future baldness treatment program because there was too much pain involved, heh.
So based on these 2 things, the idea seems logical true. Now if it really works with a dermaroll + minoxidil is something time will tell. After all, PrettyFly83 has just started on minoxidil 3 months ago. It takes minoxidil minimum that much time before it works so it could be only minoxidil having an affect. Not being the devil advocate, just realist.
greyghost got a great personality even with the wife leaving and being bald for a long time. Some people in other threads could learn from this person. He should totally post pics since he's an old user of the drugs. We will be able to see if he's getting results because of the dermaroll or not since he's been using minoxidil for years.
I will be following that thread and this thread but not using dermaroll yet. I'm using momentasonfuroat to get rid of my dandruff which won't die no matter what. It works, and that's wonderful but I still got some weeks of applying before I can stop using it. I can't use the dermaroll and let that drug get into my blood. Not even by accident. So I will keep watching the others achieve results and then after a few months also start on it. Even if it doesn't help against hair loss, I hope I can still use it to get rid of the big dark spots I got had acne/pimples on my head.
Btw it's a great idea that greyghost got. That people keep posting their findings and pics each Friday. That will show it they get results in 12 weeks like the study says or not.
About the questions asked to the doctors. I don't think they mind. After all, if you found something great you would be more than willing to talk about it to others about your funds. The only thing PrettyFly83 should be aware of, is that he shouldn't sound like someone who's trying to snatch their idea but instead is trying to hear more about how great they are and how they did it.
Another way could be to act like ph.d. students from a med uni and asked them questions related to their research so you could copy the same study and see if you get the same results. If they don't want to give details it means they are lying and won't like others to find out. If they do it means they are 100% sure it works. After all, having more studies in the world only proves the theory/concept you are screaming about.
Still it's awesome of PrettyFly83 to take the initiative to contact the doctors in the study and ask them questions. Kudos.
About the questions:
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Originally Posted by PrettyFly83
Hey all
So I took some initiative and managed to make contact with one of the Doctors behind the recent microneedling study. I'm not going to post their details here as they could get inundated with random emails and we may never get the facts we're after. they have confirmed that they are using it as a treatment for patients which is another promising sign on its effectiveness.
What I suggest is putting together a short list of queries we have which I'll request some clarity on. Whether we get any more information is another question as if they are using this treatment, its unlikely they will want to give away their secrets but its worth a try right?
The following seem to be the biggest queries on the forum which all are welcome to edit:
1. Needle size (0.5mm vs 1.5mm) to induce growth
2. Treatment pressure used and Whether weekly treatment is the most optimum
3. Why did study not use minoxidil on same day
4. Whether bleeding is normal and to what extent
5. Will the treatment cause scaring and possibly hinder natural hair growth
Open to any opinions and views?
Its probably best to first pose some fairly non threatening questions to see if they open up so maybe lets keep it to a max 3-4 basic questions. |
A few questions from me:
6. Do results continue to show as long as wounding/dermarolling continues with the use of Minoxidil or is there a maximum achievable one can expect?
7. How many norwood levels can this method potentially bring back a balding man?
8. We're trials ever done with Finasteride and if so, did the results improve? |
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I'm not gonna join BBT yet, so I'm gonna post them here and hope you will post them for me at BBT:
9. How many needles on the dermaroller, 192 or 512? (well it can be put together with 1.)
10. How many times should the dermaroll be rolling on the head? I read you did it 50 times but if they do it 10 times and doing it 50 is not good for the head...then you are damaging instead of helping. So quantity should be known too even if they study reads
until mild erythema was noted.
11. The method to roll it on the scalp. The guy in the video is just a random dude who's been making lots of videos talking about many different things. So I wouldn't give his "forth, back, right, left and then diagonal from both sides." any credit. Here we need to know how they rollin' :hairy:
I really hope that this works. I use nizoral, finasteride and minoxidil. Getting rid of finasteride would be good. Not getting any sides but you never know when they could pop up. Also having a cheap way which works for nearly everybody...that would be soooooo awesome. It would get rid of nearly every fake hair loss moneymakers in this world where the chances are minimal to get your hair back.
